Author Topic: XP & SATA Drivers (Read 17235 times)

llmeyer1000 · « **on:** October 23, 2010, 03:04:37 PM »

I'm not sure if hardware is the right section for this question, but since it's about hardware drivers I posted it here.

Heres the thing. I slipstreamed XP with SP3 and slipped the SATA drivers for my WD harddrive to make up a new boot CD. Works good.
Next I used the slipstreamed copy to make up a Bart's PE Boot disk. Also works good.

Now, I'm wondering... Will the SATA drivers work for most or all SATA drives? If not, Is there a universal package of drivers that could be added to make the PE disk a universal boot disk?

Allan · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2010, 03:08:26 PM »

Sata drivers are unique to specific hard drives

patio · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2010, 03:45:47 PM »

Actually they are usually tied to the MBoard...not the HDD's.

Computer_Commando · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2010, 05:08:04 PM »

Quote from: patio on October 23, 2010, 03:45:47 PM

Actually they are usually tied to the MBoard...not the HDD's.

Usually? Always!! Because the controller is on the motherboard.
Just found this, too: http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=414

indogo · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2010, 06:37:01 PM »

ok the internet is acting up so I could not give the direct link but the site/driver mentioned here may be of interest...its an attempt at a universal driver that includes sata support
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/238134-39-uniata-driver-ich10r

mike

Computer_Commando · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2010, 06:45:03 PM »

That's a 3rd party driver scanner (Driver Whiz), you don't want to use that. They usually don't work and sometimes are just spyware.

indogo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2010, 07:18:38 PM »

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That's a 3rd party driver scanner (Driver Whiz), you don't want to use that. They usually don't work and sometimes are just spyware

please check your facts before making erroneous statements...its is a universal harddrive driver...do you have a problem with giving help here?

mike

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2010, 07:46:47 PM »

Computer_Commando has proven to be right on many times.
Pay attention to what he says. The driver whiz link is not what you want.

indogo · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2010, 07:58:32 PM »

I have used the uniata driver myself...the only problem is that their website is having problems.
ReactOS also use it http://www.osnews.com/story/21625/ReactOS_Gets_VeriSign_Certificate_UniATA

mike

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2010, 09:19:21 PM »

there is no "Driver Whiz" anywhere on the linked page, anyway. Just looks like a post about a SATA controller driver. Although I wasn't able to follow the link in the post on the page linked in the post here (that's somewhat of a tongue twister...) so I don't know what is on it.

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2010, 12:34:54 AM »

Forget it!
The old site http://alter.org.ua is off the air and has been for some time. This Goggle Cache of that site indicates that it was a fringe site from the start.

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.ua is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Ukraine. ...

On that Tom's Hardware page is is/was a Google ad. From Driver Whiz. Avoid it.
Google search:

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Universal ATA driver for Windows NT3.51/NT4/2000/XP
Universal ATA driver for Windows NT3.51/NT4/2000/XP With PATA/SATA support. Updated 2008.09.10. Download; Overview; Features; Compatibility ...
alter.org.ua/soft/win/uni_ata/ - Cached

Which we already know is a dead link.

But If you know it is for any Intel board, this may work.
http://download.cnet.com/SATA-Driver-Intel-Ver-7-0-0-1020-zip/3000-2122_4-162224.html

NOTA BENE
CNET says this driver is also 64 bit. Huh?

Allan · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2010, 04:46:14 AM »

Quote from: patio on October 23, 2010, 03:45:47 PM

Actually they are usually tied to the MBoard...not the HDD's.

oops - thanks for the correction patio - of course it's the mobo not the hd

indogo · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2010, 06:27:45 AM »

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Forget it!
The old site http://alter.org.ua is off the air and has been for some time. This Goggle Cache of that site indicates that it was a fringe site from the start.

Ok is WAS a bonafida driver and site...I will inform my source that his link is out of date.
If you google you will find they were quite commonly referred to so it must have been a recent loss and don't be put off by the location...I have a very handy usb driver for NT4 from a similar part of the world not to mention a useful epson printer resetter which saved me plenty of money in the past. Inventiveness is found all over the globe and the joy of the internet is having access to it. The universal Sata driver was a very promising project...its a shame that it appears to have been dropped as I'm sure it would save a lot of head scratching for XP users.

Ok that ends that discussion

mike

well what do you know its back...
Link Removed
some very interesting utilities there

Salmon Trout · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2010, 09:22:09 AM »

Quote from: indogo on October 24, 2010, 06:27:45 AM

bonafida

bona fide

indogo · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2010, 10:01:41 AM »

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bona fide

Thank you for the spelling lesson

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Link Removed

and you taught me all about your attitudes towards freedom of speech and ideas

All a bit pointless here really.

Please remove me

mike

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2010, 10:12:10 AM »

um... yeah, *censored* is going on here exactly?

http://alter.org.ua/soft/win/uni_ata/

What is wrong with the page? specifics, people. Just take a look at it's WOT scorecard:

http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/alter.org.ua

Nobody removed links to the Generic Mass storage drivers for Win98SE I linked to. These aren't really that much different.

On the other hand, it's best to go with manufacturer drivers, if they exist- for best performance. Usually the SATA drivers are part of the chipset driver, which you should install anyway.

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2010, 12:05:38 PM »

It is Google that has an issue with web sites in the Ukraine.

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Google Is Blocked In 25 Of The 100 Countries They Offer Products In

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/19/google-censorship/
That article mentions the Ukraine among others.
Of course this has no direct bearing on SATA drivers.

My earlier post was based on what I found on Google.

indogo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2010, 06:42:26 AM »

Well this was getting me to rant point. It does appear that there is some political problem with google which I must admit I have come across myself and though I have tried other searches for technical stuff they still are the best in that area. As for images dogpile and others have kept the browser friendly search.

As for the original poster...hi...my suggestion was because he wanted to make some sort of recovery disk so having a universal sata driver would certainly reduce the amount of drivers needed. Indeed for a similar project using windows 2000 I used a universal vga driver to give better resolution/colors on any hardware than the standard driver does for example.

regards

Mike

llmeyer1000 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2010, 09:28:21 AM »

WOW!

It seems that I at the least stirred things up a bit! Thank you all for your comments. I am too tired right now to sort all this out, but I promise that I will look at your comments more. Thanks again. All.

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2010, 06:54:56 PM »

Forgot to mention.
Your BIOS has an IDE to SATA emulation mode.
Windows sees the SATA as a IDE device.
Use this to bring up the system. Then later install the right drivers.
Of course, having the right drive to start with is better.

llmeyer1000 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2010, 09:01:34 AM »

I've done some more research on my own and found someone that has compiled what he claims is:
"Every driver you need to slipstream Windows XP onto any major hardware platform."
He says "These drivers are often difficult to locate, so we have prepared a driver package for the major AMD, Intel and NVIDIA chipsets of recent make.

He includes the link in this article:
http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/slipstream_windows_xp/
(The article was written in may 2008 so it may not include the latest drivers, but hopefully will include most.)

This is the link to the driver package if anyone is interested.
http://tech.icrontic.com/downloads/slipstream_windows_xp_drivers

I am hopeful that this will at least come close to the "universal driver package" that I was looking for.

patio · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2010, 02:51:59 PM »

"Universal" so called drivers are nothing but a can of worms and can cause more issues than they're worth...
Travel to the MBoard manuf. site and DLoad and install the correct SATA drivers as i suggested...

andrekakkar · « **Reply #22 on:** November 25, 2010, 04:21:06 AM »

Hi,

Sorry, just no idea about this.

Allan · « **Reply #23 on:** November 25, 2010, 06:16:07 AM »

Quote from: andrekakkar on November 25, 2010, 04:21:06 AM

Hi,

Sorry, just no idea about this.

But it didn't stop you from posting, did it?

martinmm · « **Reply #24 on:** December 24, 2010, 09:55:44 AM »

Just 2 cent for the main person with the <WD>hdd . go to WD site there are some explainations there the help area that will help you out. also some links.
might help keep your hard drive in warranty...
use their "acronis true image" download.

Allan · « **Reply #25 on:** December 24, 2010, 10:25:53 AM »

Quote from: martinmm on December 24, 2010, 09:55:44 AM

Just 2 cent for the main person with the <WD>hdd . go to WD site there are some explainations there the help area that will help you out. also some links.
might help keep your hard drive in warranty...
use their "acronis true image" download.

1) Please stop posting nonsense
2) This thread is a month old - we'll assume the problem has been addressed by now

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Author Topic: XP & SATA Drivers (Read 17235 times)

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BC_Programmer

Geek-9pm

Allan

indogo

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Geek-9pm

indogo

llmeyer1000

Geek-9pm

llmeyer1000

patio

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Allan

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