gun control in america

[harry 48]

is it time for america to introduce gun control following the latest shootings

[Dusty]

Any kind of control will only hit the good guys, the bad guys will still be armed.  Look at countries which have fairly strict gun control, the bad guys are armed and willing to use.

In my homeland the good guys who have firearms are required to be licensed, the bad guys just couldn't care less.

D.

[reddevilggg]

is it time for america to introduce gun control following the latest shootings

and i suppose England should introduce knife control following the recent stabbings!

[mroilfield]

I don't see this topic lasting very long.

Don't look at the weapon used instead look at the person using it.

[harry 48]

Any kind of control will only hit the good guys, the bad guys will still be armed.  Look at countries which have fairly strict gun control, the bad guys are armed and willing to use.

In my homeland the good guys who have firearms are required to be licensed, the bad guys just couldn't care less.

D.

why would the good guys want guns ( other than sport ) and they can be licensed and yes the bad guys will always get guns.

and i suppose England should introduce knife control following the recent stabbings!

yes i agree with you they should , and at least restrict who can buy them in the shops to say over 18



in britain the number of stabbings have dropped way down over the past 2 or 3 years because the young people have caught themselves on .

the number of shootings over the years are not done by bad guys they are done by good guys gone bad or unbalanced.

[Salmon Trout]

and i suppose England should introduce knife control following the recent stabbings!

And Scotland and Wales? (We won't mention Northern Ireland!)

[reddevilggg]

And Scotland and Wales? (We won't mention Northern Ireland!)

Much like this topic, i couldn't care less! 

[JJ 3000]

following the latest shootings

Who got shot?

[Carbon Dudeoxide]

People get shot all the time.


Look at Israel. Compared with the US, they have very relaxed gun laws. That's why it's a very safe place. Everybody has a gun, so no one wants to risk attacking anyone.


- Don't quote me on this. That's what I picked up on a two week tour.

[WillyW]

why would the good guys want guns ( other than sport )

How is this relevant? 
Why do you care?   How is it any of your business?

and they can be licensed

Licensed?  !!??
We already have too much of that crap.
"License" implies 'permission', and therein lies the problem.
Why should I have to have ANYBODIES permission to go buy a gun?   

and yes the bad guys will always get guns.

There you go.
You got one right.

yes i agree with you they should , and at least restrict who can buy them in the shops to say over 18

Oh?
What's next then?
Baseball bats?

in britain the number of stabbings have dropped way down over the past 2 or 3 years because the young people have caught themselves on .

the number of shootings over the years are not done by bad guys they are done by good guys gone bad or unbalanced.

hehehe
You're confusing yourself.
Then, like you said, they are not  "good guys ".


There will always be people out there, that do not grasp human nature, and feel that government can fix everything.
Government (and more laws) cannot.
What more government and more laws CAN do, is restrict freedoms, and make life miserable.
For example:  How about if government said, "Gun ownership is now illegal".     Some people actually believe that this will magically fix violent crime.
Poof!
It'll be gone.
That's just dumb.
It is human nature - for some humans - to do violence.   Hasn't it been going on since the beginning of time?   
In the example here, Government would have really mucked it up, by removing the average people's ability to protect themselves from those that tend towards violence. 
Why should a little guy have to live in fear of a big guy?   


What happens, when guns are removed from SOME people, is that those that retain them become more powerful. 
http://tinyurl.com/24sqo38

[Salmon Trout]

Much like this topic, i couldn't care less! 

Like many Americans, you seem to think that "England" is the same as Britain.

[WillyW]

... following the latest shootings

Why is this latest shooting any different than any other?
Certainly not because one victim has an influential job.    Or because the news media is harping on the incident for a day or two?

There are victims of crime everyday, everywhere - and I bet they and their families feel that what happened to them is equally tragic. 

[Salmon Trout]

Who got shot?

6 people including a Federal Judge and a 9 year old girl were killed, and Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is in critical condition with a bullet in her head, after a guy fired shots from a Glock at a public meeting in Tucson Arizona.

http://news.google.com/news/story?pz=1&cf=all&ned=uk&hl=en&topic=h&ncl=dBNrgDWdTN0G0RMCM_fSwYVUI6BnM&scoring=n

In addition to 12 people wounded, the shooting killed 63-year-old Chief Judge John Roll of the U.S. District Court for Arizona; 30-year-old Gabe Zimmerman, a Giffords staffer who was engaged to be married; 76-year-old Dorwin Stoddard who was fatally shot in the head while trying to shield his wife; 76-year-old Dorothy Morris; and 79-year-old Phyllis Scheck.

The sixth victim, 9-year-old Christina Taylor Greene, was pronounced dead at a hospital. She was born on September 11, 2001.

[Salmon Trout]

and i suppose England should introduce knife control following the recent stabbings!

The government and police take knife crime so seriously that in 2007 they increased the maximum prison sentence for carrying a knife from two years to four.

Knives

Manufacture/sell/hire ‘Flick Knife’ or ‘Flick Gun’.

Source: Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act, 1959. Section 1(1).

Offence: It is an offence for a person to manufacture, sell, hire or offer for sale or hire or expose or have in his possession for the purpose of sale or hire, or lend or give to any person:

A) any knife which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, sometimes know as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’; or

B) any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device, sometimes known as a ‘gravity knife’.

Powers: Proceedings should be by way of a summons only, unless any of the conditions of s.25 of PACE 1984 are satisfied.

Import

Source: Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act, 1959. Section 1(2).

Offence: It is an offence to import any knife as described in s.1(1) and sometimes known as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’ and ‘gravity knife’

Powers: Arrestable offence.

Public Place

Source: Criminal Justice Act, 1988. Section 139(1).

Offence: It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches.

Powers: Arrestable offence.

School Premises

Source: Criminal Justice Act, 1988. Section 139A(1).

Offence: It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him on school premises any article to which s.139 applies.

Powers: Arrestable offence.

Sell to under 16

Source: Criminal Justice Act, 1988. Section 141A

Offence: It is an offence for any person to sell to a person under the age of 16 any knife, knife blade, razor blade, axe or any other article which has a blade or is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for causing injury to the person.

Powers: Proceedings should be by way of a summons only, unless any of the conditions of s.25 of PACE 1984 are satisfied.

[harry 48]

And Scotland and Wales? (We won't mention Northern Ireland!)

yes all of Britain , and why not mention Northern Ireland , we have very little knife and gun crime or indeed crime of all sorts over here very few people carry knives and the only guns that are used are by the hoods and terrorists

quote willlyw
How is this relevant? 
Why do you care?   How is it any of your business?

why be nasty willyw

i think the only people who should have guns are the police , sports people and farmers and they should by licensed , anyone else caught with one should face jail