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Did a big company hack my email???
« on: April 17, 2011, 01:37:01 PM »
Ok, this is what happened. I had a yahoo email account/start page for years and the otherday my wife got an email that looked like it came from my yahoo email account.
It didn't have a message but a link.  Seeing that it was from me she opened it. I saw the email and it looked like it was from me but it wasn't from me. The link was spam from a Canadian online pharmacy.
Seeing this weird email made me go to the spot on yahoo that lets you see if you are the only one logging into your start page/email. All of the ISP numbers were from me except for one.  So I pasted the ISP into an ISP look-up place and the number showed that it came from a software manufacturer in california. Apparently this company is big enough have an individual ISP number.

I am not going to show the actual ISP in California unless a mod says it is ok.

So my question is, is it possible for someone to hack your email and make it look like their ISP number belongs to someone else? 

Thanks for any answers

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 02:33:50 PM »
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http://www.gvrd.com/canadian_online_pharmacy_scam/index.html

SCAM ALERT!: Canadian Internet Pharmacy Scam & Fraudulent
Emails ...

With the growing popularity of Canadian Internet Pharmacies (Links: Canadian Internet Pharmacy News, Canadian Internet Pharmacy Directory) with American citizens (because generally, they can buy their prescription drugs from Canada much cheaper than they can from pharmacy companies located within their own country)... a scam/fraud has emerged that you need to be vigilant of if you plan on doing business with a Canadian Pharmacy... (SEE ALSO: Govt. of Canada Internet Pharmacy warning).
I don't know anything more other that what is in the link above.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 03:20:04 PM »
I don't know anything more other that what is in the link above.
Thanks, that looks like what happened..I must admit that I HAD been real sloppy with my internet info in the past but that won't happen again.... And, after doing some research and just opening my eyes I realize that the internet spends lots of time watching me while I am looking at it.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 03:58:08 PM »
I'd advise running full scans with anti virus and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware. A lot of viruses do this sort of thing.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 04:01:20 PM »
Get another e-mail address. Give it out to associates who are wise and trustworthy.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2011, 04:30:03 PM »
Looking like it came from you and being from you are 2 very different things...

You only need to insert 1 character in a spoofed email addy and 98% of people would not catch it...
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 04:39:02 PM »
I'd advise running full scans with anti virus and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware. A lot of viruses do this sort of thing.
I ran a panda scan , malware, and MIcro trend house call. Nothing came up.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2011, 04:40:54 PM »
Get another e-mail address. Give it out to associates who are wise and trustworthy.
I did that and lots more. Thanks!

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 04:41:59 PM »
I wouldn't be overly concerned. I have 8 or 10 email accounts (business and personal) and every once in a while I'll get a spam from one of those accounts. Nothing viral, just an ad. Your email address is obviously not private and spoofing an email address couldn't be easier.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2011, 04:50:56 PM »
Looking like it came from you and being from you are 2 very different things...

You only need to insert 1 character in a spoofed email addy and 98% of people would not catch it...
I will never know that one because we dumped the email.. I am done with it...hopefully. Bottomline..if it happens again I am one of those people that will shoot holes in all my computers and go on with my life.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2011, 05:39:17 PM »
..if it happens again I am one of those people that will shoot holes in all my computers and go on with my life.
Really, that is what might have to do. Identity theft is a crime that is not quite understood. It one of the few crimes, if not the only one,  were the victim is always guilty and can not prove his innocence because the Banks and Credit Card firms es are in conclusion* with the criminals.
E-mail spoofing can be a stepping stone to bigger things. The Chase Bank spoofs were so widespread that the Bank had to go public and warn people. It was out of control.

*Collusion. This the term might be hard to clarify. But it means just what you think in means in this context.
If you want protection from your Credit Card company, you have to ask for it. Really. Not a joke. In the USA you have to ask for it. Failure to do so you  thus are giving them the opportunity to work with the criminals. That is, in effect, collusion.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2011, 05:57:42 PM »
Really, that is what might have to do.

We're talking about E-mail headers being spoofed or E-mail accounts being accessed.

Not banking or financial sites.
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2011, 07:09:56 PM »
We're talking about E-mail headers being spoofed or E-mail accounts being accessed.
Not banking or financial sites.
Are you sure? Really sure?
My research indicates hundreds of references that put them together.
Are you saying:
Bombs are not related to terrorists.
Hygiene is not related to disease.
Water has nothing to due with famine.

Or maybe, guns don't kill people?



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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 03:56:55 AM »
Are you saying:
Bombs are not related to terrorists.
Hygiene is not related to disease.
Water has nothing to due with famine.

Or maybe, guns don't kill people?

All true. Correlation does not imply causation.

-Bombs/dynamite are used in mining operations. following your logic all miners are terrorists.
-hygiene isn't related to disease, but germs/bacteria/viruses are, and good hygiene tends to eliminate that from the equation. Having good or bad hygiene doesn't mean you will or will not get sick.'
-while a drought, if long enough, will cause a famine, so too can lack of arable land and early frosts, regardless of the water supply.

-Guns don't kill people without somebody using it. It's like saying that shovels dig holes. They don't, people dig holes using shovels, and you don't need a shovel to dig a hole; it just makes it easier. Same story for firearms.
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 06:05:14 AM »
-Guns don't kill people without somebody using it. It's like saying that shovels dig holes. They don't, people dig holes using shovels, and you don't need a shovel to dig a hole; it just makes it easier. Same story for firearms.

Are you are lawyer, by any chance, BC?

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 06:23:15 AM »
Are you are lawyer, by any chance, BC?
No. I'm stating facts.

When somebody says

"X performs Y", and, to present the unemotional example of "shovels Dig". It implies that the subject does this on it's own with absolutely no help.

However, I don't recall hearing about Shovels digging holes on their own.

In some locations, it is illegal to dig without first getting a survey done, because there is a known underground electrical, telephone, or other utility cable rather close to the surface. Not following this procedure results in a fine, and responsibility for any resulting service outage. However, I again cannot recall any particular instance where the shovel, or trowel that the person was using was held responsible for the actions of the person using said device. A shovel or other tool will indeed make digging said hole easier, but it hardly makes it possible; you can dig with your bare hands if necessary, but they have no cognition and thus no responsibility. Saying that any inanimate object is "responsible" for something is a gross personification of said device, and tries to absolves the ills of humanity onto a inanimate scapegoat. If a water pump fails in a nuclear reactor, the pump isn't held responsible at the inquisition- the lazy engineer who installed it is, or the company's disregard for safety.

The controversial nature of firearms however is probably rooted in the notion that they are, in effect, designed specifically to kill and injure. However, it doesn't follow logically that if they suddenly disappeared, or were removed in some other way, suddenly we'd be living in a pleasant utopia. Regardless of what laws and restrictions are enforced, people will find ways to kill and injure each other, and unless the plan is to make everybody a toothless torso that is never going to change.

My point is that in said cases, the device is not "responsible". the person is. Otherwise I could say that we should hold computers responsible for hacking. We don't; it's the people doing that hacking that are fined and/or sent to prison. I've always been surprised how much illogic the introduction of mortality brings to any debate, even when otherwise perfectly crafted analogies to said mortal situation make the express or implied suggestions ridiculous.
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2011, 06:40:00 AM »
Basically infected shovels with dynamite cannot spoof e-mail headers...
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2011, 06:47:58 AM »
Basically infected shovels with dynamite cannot spoof e-mail headers...
Thank you Patio. It was not until you made this  brilliant summary could I perceive the greater meaning.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2011, 06:48:13 AM »
Basically infected shovels with dynamite cannot spoof e-mail headers...

Exactly, but many criminal organizations are working on ways to fix that.

The results will no doubt be explosive.
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2011, 07:45:03 AM »
Thank you Patio. It was not until you made this  brilliant summary could I perceive the greater meaning.

Just one of the many services we offer here...
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2011, 08:02:00 AM »
*Collusion. This the term might be hard to clarify. But it means just what you think in means in this context.
If you want protection from your Credit Card company, you have to ask for it. Really. Not a joke. In the USA you have to ask for it. Failure to do so you  thus are giving them the opportunity to work with the criminals. That is, in effect, collusion.
"If you want protection from your Credit Card company, you have to ask for it."  Non-sense.  Obviously, if you suspect some unauthorized/fraudulent activity has occurred in your credit card account, then you'd have to contact them and let them know so that they can investigate from their end.  And, "In the US, federal law limits the liability of card holders to $50 in the event of theft of the actual credit card, regardless of the amount charged on the card, if reported within 60 days of receiving the statement."* 

*Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card_fraud

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 09:30:09 AM »
Good post. Soybean.
Now if everyone will read the article carefully.
Here is part of it:

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To protect themselves against electronic identity theft by phishing, hacking or malware, individual are well advised to maintain computer security, for example by keeping their operating systems fully patched against known security vulnerabilities, running antivirus software and being cautious in their use of IT.

Now does that somehow indict little effort is require to protect yourself and that it is automatic and e-mail and computer use is a non issue? After all. computer don't commit crimes. only criminals commit crimes. So if you don't let a criminal use you computer there is just nothing to worry about. But if a criminal does use your computer, then you must be the criminal. 

And pf course the Big Business firms do not make it easy for criminals. Just ask them. They never do that. They will also tell, but not in these exact words.: "In the legal system of the USA, consumer credulity is a crime commuted by the stupid victim who trusts others  and can result in  twenty years to Life of misery with no parole.

WARNING
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Read at you own risk.
It may be not relevant to this topic.


47 Identity Theft Horror Stories

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2011, 09:54:00 AM »
WARNING
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It may be not relevant to this topic.

That's not only uncalled for, it comes from the person more responsible for taking threads off topic than anyone else here.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2011, 10:01:50 AM »
But if a criminal does use your computer, then you must be the criminal. 
Nope.


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consumer credulity is a crime commuted by the stupid victim who trusts others  and can result in  twenty years to Life of misery with no parole.
It's not a crime. the victim isn't "stupid", by any stretch of the imagination.


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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2011, 10:10:52 AM »
That's not only uncalled for, it comes from the person more responsible for taking threads off topic than anyone else here.
No, it was me-- Not BC_Programmer.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2011, 10:15:20 AM »
No, it was me-- Not BC_Programmer.

Quite right. Reply #12.
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2012, 11:44:20 AM »
This thread should have come to an end. Yes, I am guilty of diverting the topic. Let me redeem myself, if that is possible.
I have been the victim of Cyber scams myself. The loss was both money and intellectual property. The money was under $200, but the loss of my domain names is hard to estimate.

Big companies, and small ones too, are abusive. If they believe they can get sway with it, some will do whatever they can to promote their own interests ahead of the welfare of others.

I still hold to my position that guarding your information and changing your e-mails address is important. Once your e-mail address is on a list, it is hard to get it off.

Some users have at least two e-mails boxes that are active. One for real family or business mail, the other for junk and RSS feeds and stuff like that. Cyber security is still a very serious concern. You have to protect yourself. And I will quote the above post
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Suggestions to Keep Your card Protected
- Do not throw away your bills in a open public garbage can
- Eliminate docs that contain delicate data before disposing them from your home
- Neglect email messages that ask for your card data. Take notice that phishing and fake email messages are the top sources of online scams
The is good advice!

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2012, 04:40:40 PM »
It's spam, Geek.  :P

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2012, 05:04:18 PM »
It's spam, Geek.  :P
What do you mean? The topic is:
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
The OP suspects a spammer got into his e-mail. Otherwise, how did they know to target this individual.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2012, 05:32:45 AM »
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This thread should have come to an end.
It had, until, somewhat ironically, a forum spammer posted in it.

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I have been the victim of Cyber scams myself. The loss was both money and intellectual property. The money was under $200, but the loss of my domain names is hard to estimate.
Wow. How the heck did that happen?

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Big companies, and small ones too, are abusive. If they believe they can get sway with it, some will do whatever they can to promote their own interests ahead of the welfare of others.

You are confusing things here. Spam isn't abusive. spam doesn't have viruses. That would defeat the purpose. The entire purpose of spam is basically to use E-mail to reach prospective customers. If they pay for a commercial, their commercial appears on TV and a few hundred people might see it and be interested. They have to pay more for more viewers; E-mail, on the other hand, is cheap; even cheaper than "junk mail"; there is no envelope, no stamps, no postage; etc. And they can reach millions of prospective customers. In many ways it would be stupid to <not> follow that route. There is a difference between the E-mail from the "Nigerian Prince" and the E-mail trying to sell you pharmaceuticals; the first one is trying to con you out of money, the second is trying to sell you a product. The first is illegal nearly anywhere; the second is legal.


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I still hold to my position that guarding your information and changing your e-mails address is important. Once your e-mail address is on a list, it is hard to get it off.
I've used my E-mail address for going on quite a number of years and I've yet to have any problems. And what are you guarding your information (what information?) from? This is the same as trying to protect your street address to prevent junk mail. How do you think those companies get your street address? It's usually easy to look it up in a telephone book. It's no less easy to get an E-mail address. Many otherwise reputable companies may very well have employees with access to the internal e-mail listings that sell those lists; The only "protected" E-mail address is the one that doesn't exist.


The post you quote, by the way, is the one Raptor was talking about. It's a spammer. The fact that you still cannot tell what spam is is a bit disconcerting.
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2012, 11:39:11 AM »
What do you mean? The topic is:The OP suspects a spammer got into his e-mail. Otherwise, how did they know to target this individual.

The guy you quoted was a spammer.

Why the mods haven't removed him yet, I don't know.

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2012, 12:56:36 PM »
The guy you quoted was a spammer.
Why the mods haven't removed him yet, I don't know.
My bad.  :-[

But you see how BC has defended Spam?
OK, Here is some SPAM from my web site. Now that BC has endorsed SPAM, we might all want to see why he likes it so much. From now on we can all put our SPAM on CH.

Here is mine:



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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2012, 01:33:44 PM »
But you see how BC has defended Spam?
I didn't. You can't see what isn't there.
[uote]Now that BC has endorsed SPAM[/quote]
I didn't. where did I endorse it? You have a strange ability to read what isn't there and interpret what you want rather than what is said. I didn't defend spam, and I didn't endorse it. I pointed out that you were confusing spam with scams, and that they are completely different territory, in that the former is perfectly legal and the latter isn't. I never said I liked spam. I never said I agreed with the way E-mail is used as a cheap marketing tool, I just said that E-mail is being used as a cheap marketing tool. Stating a fact is not endorsing it.
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2012, 02:33:37 PM »
Oh, waitress...Check!

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2012, 03:59:38 PM »
Is she good looking?

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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2012, 07:50:23 PM »
Check...
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Re: Did a big company hack my email???
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2012, 08:31:35 PM »
This topic reminds me of the good old days of CH.

Sometimes it better to just move along instead of putting in your two cents.

Check...

Not before I buy a final round for everyone.  8)

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