ms OFFICE WORD (2007) question

[myming]

hello all,

please move this if it is in the incorrect area ?

i typed a business form into my "office word 2007" program and forgot to save (duh !).

now i need it again.
is there a way to type this form into "office word" and be able to transfer it into one of my internet email programs to re-use when needed ?

may sound easy, but i'm not an "office word" user...
_______________________________________ _______
why can't files typed into any of the "office" programs be sent across the internet "barrier" ?

thank you.

[Geek-9pm]

E-mail is limited to either simple plain text or as a HTML document.
For other kinds for formats, the document must be went as an attachment.

Even on this web site, I can not directly sen d you an Office thing inside tees box. But I can attach it mat the bottom.

Do yew see it? It is 'test.doc ' and needs Word to open it.

[recovering disk space - old attachment deleted by admin]

[soybean]

is there a way to type this form into "office word" and be able to transfer it into one of my internet email programs to re-use when needed ?

Copy and paste.   

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why can't files typed into any of the "office" programs be sent across the internet "barrier" ?

They can be sent.  I don't why you're having a problem.  Can you provide precise details of a case where you can't send?

[myming]

hello soybean,

  windows 7 running the ms "office" programs do not have a copy/paste option to paste a "word" file into an internet email program.
nothing in the ms "office word" book explains the ability to copy a "word" file and paste it to the internet.

[BC_Programmer]

nothing in the ms "office word" book explains the ability to copy a "word" file and paste it to the internet.

Open file in word.
1.Copy
2.Paste to E-mail editor
3. profit.

[Salmon Trout]

Is there some subtle nuance that I am missing here?

[Spoiler]

Are you trying to save it as a web page?

[myming]

spoiler - no, i'll save it in documents when i re-copy it.

salmon trout - in order to use that option, you have to have a "new" account (which took over outlook express) with msn (a new hotmail account).
my at&t email account isn't recognized by the new hotmail, so it has to be saved in documents and added as an attachment when i go into my
email account.

i just wondered why you can't send a "word' document by email through the internet w/o having to go through all the garbage of new accounts...

thank you all for your responses !

[Salmon Trout]

salmon trout - in order to use that option, you have to have a "new" account (which took over outlook express) with msn (a new hotmail account).
my at&t email account isn't recognized by the new hotmail, so it has to be saved in documents and added as an attachment when i go into my
email account.

Can anyone tell me what he is talking about here?

[jason2074]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290936
This is the feature you can use with MS Word other than mailmerge with outlook express and you don't need any transfer to any of your account which is not available or existing.

[Geek-9pm]

Won't work.

[soybean]

salmon trout - in order to use that option, you have to have a "new" account (which took over outlook express) with msn (a new hotmail account).
my at&t email account isn't recognized by the new hotmail, so it has to be saved in documents and added as an attachment when i go into my
email account.

i just wondered why you can't send a "word' document by email through the internet w/o having to go through all the garbage of new accounts...

Everything you said here is non-sense.  You don't need a "new" account.  Any valid existing account will work.

[Geek-9pm]

Everything you said here is non-sense.  You don't need a "new" account.  Any valid existing account will work.

He is wanting to send email for word. It will not work for him. His ISP does not allow SMTP from any address that has not been authorized by the iSP. He has to identify each e-mail account he has or else they refuse a SMTP. It is a PITA.

[soybean]

He is wanting to send email for word. It will not work for him. His ISP does not allow SMTP from any address that has not been authorized by the iSP. He has to identify each e-mail account he has or else they refuse a SMTP. It is a PITA.

Where are getting such notions?  He's said nothing that clearly indicates what you're saying.  He never mentioned SMTP.

[Salmon Trout]

THis thread is proving to be quite entertaining, in a masochistic sort of way, like a movie that's so bad it's good.

[myming]

well guys,

SHE found the answer.

especially in windows 7, since outlook express has been d/c'd, you have to sign up for "windows live" in order to make the "send to" (via email) function work.

you can send a word file via your email if you save it to documents.
open your email program and click the attach key, and - "profit" !

microsoft, being microsoft, set it up that way (it has other options, too, if you use them) for people who don't want to venture out of a "safe" 8-) environment.

and it ONLY took two hours of phone filtering through three, 'hello, my name is ----.  here at microsoft we are here to solve your problems." to demand a second
tier technician...

may all your pc problems be solvable.
                       

[Salmon Trout]

I have an ISP pop3/smtp account, I have Windows 7, and MS Office 2003, and I am using Outlook 2003 as my email client,  and I can send Office documents via the menu feature I showed before.

[BC_Programmer]

I have an ISP pop3/smtp account, I have Windows 7, and MS Office 2003, and I am using Outlook 2003 as my email client,  and I can send Office documents via the menu feature I showed before.

I think there may be confusion between E-mail services and E-mail clients, myself.

For example, the send to-> mail recipient options (regardless of the program, Windows Explorer, Word 2003/2007, etc) for me don't require me to "sign up" for windows live; although technically I already am, but that can hardly be relevant since it doesn't start Windows Live Mail when I do that, it starts Mozilla Thunderbird, which is configured for several E-mail accounts (POP3/SMTP with several . The application that is launched is easily configured in the "Default Programs" control panel.

[Geek-9pm]

THis thread is proving to be quite entertaining, in a masochistic sort of way, like a movie that's so bad it's good.

Yes! Let's keep it rolling! We are getting close to the chase scene! If they turn this into a dit-com we all get free beer!


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How to send a Word document as an email message directly from Word

[soybean]

especially in windows 7, since outlook express has been d/c'd, you have to sign up for "windows live" in order to make the "send to" (via email) function work.
                     

Well, I see you're still stumbling around in the darkness.  What you need is to install Windows Live Mail, not simply "sign up for 'windows live'". 

you can send a word file via your email if you save it to documents.
open your email program and click the attach key, and - "profit" !

The Word file does not need to be in Documents.  It could be in a folder outside of Documents, even on an external hard drive or flash drive.   

[Geek-9pm]

is there a way to type this form into "office word" and be able to transfer it into one of my internet email programs to re-use when needed ?

He just wants to send it to his [or some  other] email. He does not want to copy and paste. He does not want to attach a document. He does not want to send a file. He just wants to type a form in Word or some other Office program and just send it to an email address.

Why does that have to be hard?
If his ISP is AT&T, it is because.

[myming]

soybean - mea culpa.  i did not add the word "mail" to windows live.
i had an existing hotmail account and when i signed up for windows live mail it deleted my original account.
i have enough email accounts, i don't need another one and i won't be using all the accoutrements, anyway.
i'll stick w/ saving it to documents and attach it w/ my email.
thank you.

geek - yes, my isp is at&t !
thank you.

and i don't even use ie, i google everything...

[BC_Programmer]

soybean - mea culpa.  i did not add the word "mail" to windows live.

Not really relevant. The send-to -> mail recipient options in both word, windows explorer ,and other applications open your default E-mail viewer. By default, this is Windows Live Mail, thus the assumption that that is what you referred to, particularly since starting Live Mail in any fashion (including the menu options) will require you to enter E-mail account details. (this is <NOT> signing up for an account).

i had an existing hotmail account and when i signed up for windows live mail it deleted my original account.

Hotmail is, and has been, a part of Windows Live for quite a while. everything that has required a live ID allows me to enter my hotmail E-mail address. I've never been "forced" or even asked by any application at any point to create a msn.com e-mail.

i'll stick w/ saving it to documents and attach it w/ my email.

You could always just use another E-mail client despite geek-9pm's ramblings to the contrary I have little doubt that AT&T as a ISP allows consumers to access their E-mail via SMTP/POP3.

and i don't even use ie, i google everything...

The best I can get out of this statement is that you use Google chrome.

[Geek-9pm]

geek - yes, my isp is at&t !
thank you.

This is the heart of the problem. The issue is well-documented by both AT&T and users on their forum. Basically, you can only SMTP  the none address AT&T gives you on yahoo mail. You can add accounts, but it is a awkward thing. And recently that have changed some things. They say nit is a security issue. They don't want a lot of unknown SMTP going through their servers.

[BC_Programmer]

The issue is well-documented by AT&T

[Citation needed] 

(please)

[myming]

bc_programmer,

here's your citation - 877-722-3755.

be sure to tell them you're running windows 7.

[Geek-9pm]

AT&T Email Basics
You can access your AT&T e-mail account using webmail through your web-browser (like Microsoft® Internet Explorer® or Mozilla® Firefox®, etc.) or through specialized client-based e-mail programs (like Microsoft® Outlook® or Outlook® Express). For most users webmail is recommended based on the advantages listed below.
http://www.att.net/s/s.dll?spage=host/newsletter/newsletter.htm&ch=host/newsletter

On the ATT user forums reports of problems have been edited by the moderators On related forums the users express the frustration that have encountered..

Uverse ATT Outlook POP Email Account Issue
This is an issue that ATT does not address nor know how to address. The simple fact is that they are forcing users you have an ATT account in order to send/receive from your own domain or a non att or affiliate domain. I have been furious for years over the poor and lack of knowledge of their support system & people.

Entering your ATT or affiliate domain credentials is not a bad thing, just not thought out correctly or it was irreversible and too much software & hardware was developed and produced that could not be modified or updated, they created this mess.

ATT & Outlook will work without an att or affiliate account. Why would you want this? Maybe a guest or family member comes in from out of town and would like to send/receive from their website domain address and conduct business using outlook. Happens everyday.

If you have a home business, you are forced into using your email address and password you created when signing up with them. Are you expected to give out this sensitive information to a stranger or business prospect? NO. DO NOT.

ATT needs to clarify this and train their Tech Support people better.
http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r24590014-Uverse-ATT-Outlook-POP-Email-Account-Issue

Yahoo answers gets questions bout the ATT way of doing email.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100504152435AAohh93

Posts on independent forums are not as kind.
A Yahoo search on problem with at&t email account shows the users have a hard time understanding n their protocol.

http://forums.att.com/t5/Email/New-email-Sub-Account-creation-problems/td-p/2017415
http://forums.att.com/t5/Email/AT-amp-T-email-issue-with-Outlook/td-p/2699945
http://askville.amazon.com/att-net-webmail-users/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=62896197

[myming]

geek,

i used ie to go to "pop.att.yahoo.com" and got an error of, can't find it.
i used ie to go to "smtp.att.yahoo.com" and got error of ie can't display the webpage.

both addresses were given to me by at&t to check my pop/smtp settings and ports.

i give up.
i'll save it to docs and use attach button on my email account to send it.

thnx.

[soybean]

This is the heart of the problem. The issue is well-documented by both AT&T and users on their forum. Basically, you can only SMTP  the none address AT&T gives you on yahoo mail. You can add accounts, but it is a awkward thing. And recently that have changed some things. They say nit is a security issue. They don't want a lot of unknown SMTP going through their servers.

I believe you've gone off-track again.  SMTP issues with the AT&T account are not the issue here.  If you think this is the issue, can you point to exactly what comments from myming lead you to this conclusion? 

myming has stumbled all around an issue of attaching a Word file vs. somehow embedding a Word-type file into a default email template but he did not say he would not send messages via an ATT account.

[soybean]

geek,

i used ie to go to "pop.att.yahoo.com" and got an error of, can't find it.
i used ie to go to "smtp.att.yahoo.com" and got error of ie can't display the webpage.

both addresses were given to me by at&t to check my pop/smtp settings and ports.

i give up.
i'll save it to docs and use attach button on my email account to send it.

thnx.

OMG, unbelievable!  "pop.att.yahoo.com" and "smtp.att.yahoo.com" are not web addresses.    They are server identification codes that go into the account settings when creating an email account in an email client (Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail, etc.).

[Geek-9pm]

This thread is getting out of hand.
 The purpose is to help the OP. The problem the OP has is related to the problems many others have with the AT&T SMTP protocol.

 I have my own SMTP servers available to me, but I can not use them with my AT&T account. When I had Comcast I could SMTP all  day long with no problem. I even forgot what e-mail Comcast gave me. On the other hand, AT&T wants you to use their email as your default and maybe only service. It is posible, but AT7T is loath to ever let you use some other SMTP other that what they have. The SMTP requires specific ports that are blocked ny ATT servers.

Here are his options:

• Call AT&T and do as they say.
• Do all email with web mail only.
• Get an account with somebody else.

He has already called AT&T.
Apparently they can not help him with Windows 7.
There may be third -peaty solution. But at the point The OP is likely fed up and does not wish to pursue this.

[BC_Programmer]

This thread is getting out of hand.
 The purpose is to help the OP. The problem the OP has is related to the problems many others have with the AT&T SMTP protocol.

So, ATT cannot use any E-mail client at all? I see nowhere in the OP's posts where they even suggest they are creating a second account, or trying to use a second account. Also, they can send E-mail just fine, they just want to be able to send a word document as an E-mail. presumably- and again this is a presumption- they are using the webmail service to do this.

Are you suggesting that it is impossible to access an AT&T E-mail using a standard mail client like outlook or Thunderbird? if that is the case it seems dreadfully silly for them to have either SMTP or POP3 on a network facing server, since those would only be used by such clients.

[myming]

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/outlook-express#tab0

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194179

[Geek-9pm]

Are you suggesting that it is impossible to access an AT&T E-mail using a standard mail client like outlook or Thunderbird? if that is the case it seems dreadfully silly for them to have either SMTP or POP3 on a network facing server, since those would only be used by such clients.

No, I am not saying that.
But let's say if e-mail came in colors, we would hear this:

User: Can you help me with my email.
AT&T; Why of course, what is you question?
User: Does AT&TT let me choose a nice spiffy color for my email.?
AT&T: Why, Yes, Absolutely, any shade of AT&T blue will do.
User: I want Hotmail Red.
AT&T: Sorry, Hotmail red is much to risky, choose again.
User: Hmm..  Google Green?
AT&T: (Laughing) No, not that color!
(..silence)
User: <click>

[soybean]

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/outlook-express#tab0

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194179

You aren't using Outlook Express.  You can't use it because you're using Windows 7 and Outlook Express does not work with Windows 7.  So, why post links to web pages about Outlook Express? 

[Geek-9pm]

You aren't using Outlook Express.  You can't use it because you're using Windows 7 and Outlook Express does not work with Windows 7.  So, why post links to web pages about Outlook Express?

Because the information from AT&T is for Outlook Express.The issue here is larger that the problems of just one user. The big companies are trying to destroy our freedom to choose our e-mail provider. Namely anyone like Incredimail, a small successful e-mail company that will lose marker share if the big guys push them aside.
http://www.incredimail.com offers web mail, and POP3 and IMAP accounts.
For reference:
http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/protocol.html

[patio]

Geek...just stop now.
The thread isn't outta hand...the responses are.
On top of the OP not illustrating the true issue.

Let it go...

[myming]

patio,

the OP asked a direct question.
why can't i email a "word" file DIRECTLY to my email address ?

answer:  because that's the way ms set it up.
it's not a nuclear fission question...

[Geek-9pm]

Geek...just stop now.
The thread isn't outta hand...the responses are.
On top of the OP not illustrating the true issue.
Let it go...

Yes, I agree! Please lock this thread!

[BC_Programmer]

patio,

the OP asked a direct question.
why can't i email a "word" file DIRECTLY to my email address ?

answer:  because that's the way ms set it up.
it's not a nuclear fission question...

That's also not the answer. I really have no idea where hotmail/MSN came into the equation, particularly since you use a ATT ISP account, and you can send mail just fine. The "problem" is that you use webmail (your actions with the smtp and pop3 account details makes it fairly clear you haven't set up a Mail client program) web-mail works through the browser and you cannot make your machine recognize a web-site as your E-mail application, you need to use an actual E-mail application.

The problem is that they aren't using a E-mail client application, they are using web mail. And personally I don't think

[rthompson80819]

And personally I don't think

Sometimes me too, but I wouldn't put it in print.

[BC_Programmer]

Sometimes me too, but I wouldn't put it in print.

heh... woops, that sentence ought to be

"And personally I don't think that setting up a E-mail Client is something they are capable of doing with their current experience."