soybean, Earlier in this thread a response by Salmon Trout presented this "]Distributel] DSL Internet 5 [...] Download speed up to 5 Mbps, upload speed up to 800 Kbps" which i imagine he got from the Distributel site. As he points out the "up to" is really not very definitive to what one may get (only what they won't get). I do appreciate that a more accurate statement from them may not be possible because of the varied factors that affect it. When performing the speed test it indicated that the site they were using as my closest Distributel location was 50 miles (or it may have been 50km--since we use that system now). Thank you for your input. truenorth