Thanks, I use H2TestW and it is extremely good at rooting out certain types of fakes. Anything over 2GB will fall over under it's system if it's a fake. Unfortunately, anything below 2GB will pass muster and as the fakes often have a reasonable to good read/write speed H2TestW reports these speeds and it doesn't make you think you've got a fake. I can tell most of them on sight, but they are getting better, hence my difficulty.