Just FWIW: I try to attack arguments and statements, and try to avoid attacking people. If I do that at any point- or if you feel I did, please accept my apologies.
. Otherwise I will attack arguments and statements very forcefully. But understand that this typically only occurs for statements and arguments that do not have any apparently merit or lack any evidence or backing information. If you provide backing information and stuff it's a lot harder to knock'em down.
You are a developer, not a computer maintenance expert.
Software development and computer maintenance are not mutually exclusive. I'm neither an expert Developer nor an expert in computer maintenance.
That being said, no one would use DVD's to backup their system if they had a good understanding of "backing-up". You would use an external HDD or a secondary internal HDD.
In my case, All my External HDDs are full. Of backups. I put them on both. Again, something I believe I mentioned in my previous post. DVDs are generally better for long term storage in a cost-effective manner. I cannot (nor could I previously) afford to buy a bunch of external drives and store those as backups, nor would that be wise.
Essentially in order to backup my System Drive I would either need the aforementioned number of Optical discs (and a lot of time) or a drive of about equal or greater size and a lot of time. However, In my case, if I had a external drive of about equal or greater size (or really any size) I would rather use it to store the backups of my actual data, rather than System files/Programs that I can reinstall. This doesn't apply to everybody of course particular for many typical users who in this day and age often are content with Browser-based applications like Google Docs or use other distributed services and thus have rather limited actual data to backup, and usually (as you've said) relatively small System Drives that are far more feasible to backup.
But I can see you are a person who wants to rule this forum and after this post, anything you feel necessary to disparage will be ignored.
I'm not sure I get the intent here, but I really doubt that anything I say would strongly influence whether somebody ignores anything said by others. I'd be more inclined to consider that whatever I am responding to would be considered more readily. I would certainly hope what I said would not force people to close their eyes to the opposing view.
Thanks for the warm welcome to this forum. People like you need to keep their egos in-check. It's way too easy to feel "you're all that" in a forum.
I'm not sure where Ego comes into it. In terms of the other thread, You made allegations and claims without evidence. And no, you did not use "IMHO" in those cases. Perhaps you meant to, but I interpreted it as a purposeful omission in the situation. Even so, Opinions can in fact be wrong. If, for example, you have some good evidence that shows how Win8 is in fact a Bad OS, I am genuinely open to it. Otherwise, it's a matter of opinion and it's also a fact that the situations is analogous with previous windows releases that have changed the system considerably, including the original introduction of the start menu. Which should at least provoke some real thought on the matter.
I guess my ego is as huge as any other professional in in-home computer technology. I don't get easily offended but I think I "easily offend". Oops!
I wasn't offended. I just respond strongly to arguments that appear to be nothing more than emotional appeals. In the other thread you also didn't qualify what was your opinion with any statement as such, in fact it appeared to me that you did the opposite, which is why I responded so strongly. (Also I had just made a rather strong debate-style post in another forum on a completely unrelated topic so was still fired up in debate-mode).
Getting into the forum was based on one intent. I don't like W8 and am part of a IT boycott group that comes down on M$ for releasing this new system that destroyed the continuity and familiarity of W8 to people over 40 years old. To me it's a crime, to others it's "something they must get use to" . Whether our boycott or anyone else's boycotts makes a different in the coming W9 OS remains to be seen.
Well, here's the thing. I'm completely open to the idea of Windows 8 being bad. Or even criminal.
However, Show me why. Tell me why this is the case. Otherwise, it's just an opinion; and while everybody is entitled to an opinion, that doesn't make those opinions immune from criticism- anymore than my own. I am equally prepared to defend any criticism of my own opinions on various matters and have in fact been persuaded to change my stance by other members a few times. In fact I believe it was a discussion on this forum that initially got me thinking about cognitive bias's I might have had against Vista affecting my opinion and use of it when I first got it. Though maybe I'm confusing memories of an inner monologue with a forum thread.
Younger people (some) embrace the new look of W8, probably because it's different from W95 to W7. Something other than what their elders have used. Is W8 a cool OS? Not IMHO.
I started with MS-DOS 3.2, and I think this particular passage may be implicitly direct at me. I also disliked Windows 3.1 when I first started using it, and I disliked Windows 9x when I first started using it. It wasn't until XP that I realized that it was part of my responsibility to at least try to understand the changes that were made between the variants of software. Before That, I dismissed the NT subsystem as garbage based entirely on it lacking DOS mode, for example, without realizing the wealth of features you get from a fully protected mode operating system. It all boiled down to "they changed it, now it sucks". And I couldn't come up with any good reasons beyond emotion and "feelings" on the subject as to why I didn't like XP. So I shod my reluctance and dove in, and try ot apply the same logic to any OS I try.
The only one that still managed to have a negative opinion overall was Gentoo Linux but I think that it's supposed to have that effect.
So BW has banged away at the keyboard to point out all his contrary thinking and I have stated in my original posts (IMHO) several times. Making a tough statement with IMHO should be clear to all that it's just an opinion.
Actually, in
this thread you didn't use IMHO a single time. In fact you declared what you saying to be objective fact. Kinda the issue I took in that case. In this thread, I responded to your particulars in response to my own posts in the context of my own scenario, which is of course what I was referring to, perhaps not clearly enough, I gather, when I said that "I think it's a waste of time" in reference to Disk imaging. I of course meant it would be a waste of my time for my particular requirements, since I have far more important things to save. I did not mean to imply that it was a waste of time in the general case of users; I do know that Allan recommends Disk imaging software, and many others do as well. In most scenarios I even recommend it for a user. What I was getting at was more a refutation because I got the impression that you felt that
everybody could benefit from System Imaging, which I do not think to be the case
. Otherwise I agree that for your typical user, Imaging software is useful.
Also just to be clear on the Win8 stuff: If you can find some concrete information that shows how Win8 is truly a "bad OS", I would genuinely like to hear it!
Thanks for the warm welcome and I will stay away from directly communicating with BW. We are two RAMS (no, not memory ) butting heads on every turn.
I enjoy debating and Windows 8 is as good a topic as any other. I've had some very interesting debates on the subject on other forums, but have overall found the position that "Windows 8 is bad" to not really have much particularly useful evidence outside "I don't like it"
Surely there is more to it than that, especially if you want to declare go to the length of saying Windows 8 is
criminal! That's partly why I work to start these debates. I'm trying to squeeze out the evidence