Author Topic: Hitbox problems - shooter games (Read 12534 times)

Oehtab · « **on:** July 21, 2013, 05:54:57 AM »

In like any FPS game (Battlefield 3, SWAT 4, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Ghost Recon Online, Battlefield Bad Company 2 and more), when I hit someone, I can only see the squirting blood, but the server doesn´t register me hitting anyone. I have tried a lots of tweaks that I ´ve found on the internet (especially in game SWAT4, where you can modify its .ini files in a large size), but nothing helps - the tweaks were not meant to eliminate hitbox problem, but to increase overall performance and internet connection. Of course I don´t have the problem all the time, but the gaming is really unplayable like this, as you die only because of this stupid bug, when you shot someone´s head 9 times (1 shot is needed in SWAT4 to kill with weapons I use) and then he turns on you and kills you on 1 burst not even aimed to your head. Compare for yourself:

Killing with a problem: http://www.xfire.com/videos/200b07
Killing without a problem: http://www.xfire.com/video/604eb4

A short video more detailing the problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wObherA32YQ&feature=youtu.be

Internet connection:

Computer rig: MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 (original), Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20 Ghz, 8 GB RAM DDR3 single channel, Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti, motherboard MSI B75A-G43 (MS-7758)
Note: Changing between old and new gaming rig didn´t help.

I am not using any adware, spyware or anti-viruses (only the already installed Intel antivirus). On the old PC, I was having Avast.

I am looking for SWAT4 hitbox fix, as other games don´t really make me fun. If you are interested about "nodie" in BF3, I will explain you too and send screenshots, because it´s little bit different there.

I WOULD BE ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL FOR ANY HELP.

Best regards,
Oehtab

Calum · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2013, 10:17:24 AM »

This is basically a problem with your connection to the game server. Running speed tests was a great first start, those tests show nothing out of the ordinary. I would recommend having a read of this - it's basically a ping test that runs constantly, so you can see how your ping does over time. Get that set up, and run for a few days, monitor the results on there and post the link to the monitor if you like so we can take a look. That'll show you whether your connection gets worse at certain times (usually peak times) or if there's something else funky going on.

Oehtab · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2013, 12:52:07 PM »

Quote from: Calum on July 21, 2013, 10:17:24 AM

This is basically a problem with your connection to the game server. Running speed tests was a great first start, those tests show nothing out of the ordinary. I would recommend having a read of this - it's basically a ping test that runs constantly, so you can see how your ping does over time. Get that set up, and run for a few days, monitor the results on there and post the link to the monitor if you like so we can take a look. That'll show you whether your connection gets worse at certain times (usually peak times) or if there's something else funky going on.

Hi Calum,

thank you very much for your respond, I truly appreciate it. I will start testing immediately and share the results with you as soon as possible.
Finally a competent answer, not like on 4 other sites where I have posted this. Thank you once again.

Calum · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2013, 03:03:04 AM »

That's what we do

let us know how you get on and we'll see what we can do.

Oehtab · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:23:05 AM »

Here is my test. The problem is still there, even though it looks good overall.

My Broadband Ping

I have been playing, from time to time I was rapidly scrolling on Facebook, searching videos on YouTube and so on, just as I always do, so I guess the two high pings are caused by that - because after they occured, I went to sleep.

Calum · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:16:00 AM »

Your minimum latency is rather high for gaming, it's a solid 45-50. That is the root cause of your problem. For comparison, mine is 17.

Oehtab · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:25:07 AM »

That might be caused by connection to a router that provides internet to about 6 devices.
Any possible way to decrease minimum latency?

By the way, weird thing is, that there are people with much higher ingame ping that don´t have this problem. $:-\$

Calum · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:29:50 AM »

Unless they do the same test, to get a nice constant ping going to monitor the connection over a period of time, you can't compare your constant ping times to their "instant" ping. Additionally, games can measure ping in a different way - some measure falsely low or falsely high compared to your actual ping.
That latency is the latency to your modem only - so it discounts any further latency from the modem to your PC, passing through a router, switch, cables or wifi on the way. Therefore, there's very little you personally can do to reduce that, save calling your ISP and seeing if they can do anything to help. Are you on cable or DSL?

Oehtab · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2013, 07:00:01 AM »

I have cable connection.

Calum · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2013, 07:20:14 AM »

In that case the only thing you can really do is call your ISP and see if there's anything they can do.

Oehtab · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2013, 07:28:00 AM »

Alright. I am not sure if I will call them, because I doubt they will help + there were many problems providing us internet connection in the past.

Anyway, I have thought, if something like this http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/957944-battlefield-bad-company-2/54397003 couldn´t be added into SWAT4.ini, perhaps it could help too?

Oehtab · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2013, 07:43:05 AM »

Also, can´t the high minimum latency be caused by distance between me and the server?

Oehtab · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2013, 05:06:04 AM »

Anyone still here?

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Calum · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2013, 05:16:46 AM »

Quote from: Oehtab on July 23, 2013, 05:06:04 AM

Anyone still here? ))

Have some patience

Quote from: Oehtab on July 22, 2013, 07:43:05 AM

Also, can´t the high minimum latency be caused by distance between me and the server?

Indeed it could. Are you referring to the distance between you and the game server, or you and the pingbox server that Thinkbroadband use?

Quote from: Oehtab on July 22, 2013, 07:28:00 AM

Alright. I am not sure if I will call them, because I doubt they will help + there were many problems providing us internet connection in the past.

Anyway, I have thought, if something like this http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/957944-battlefield-bad-company-2/54397003 couldn´t be added into SWAT4.ini, perhaps it could help too?

That's mainly because of the way that Bad Company 2 handles hitbox detection, some games do it completely on the client side, some completely on the server side. You can't change anything that's done server side, I don't know how SWAT 4 handles it.

One other consideration, are you on wifi or a wired connection?

Oehtab · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2013, 05:49:50 AM »

I am sorry for being unpatient, that´s my nature (unfortunately).

I am reffering to the pingbox server that Thinbkbroadband uses, because UK servers mostly have higher ping for me.

I am not sure how does SWAT4 work, but I guess it´s completely server-sided.
And I use wire connection.

Calum · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2013, 05:53:52 AM »

That is a possibility then, have you tried pinging the IP of the pingbox directly, to see what you get back? The IP is 80.249.99.164.
I assume pinging your modem/router gives you the usual 1ms response time? Just to eliminate any latency on your end.

Oehtab · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2013, 06:24:50 AM »

I meant it a little bit differently - you live in UK, I live in Czech republic, so I can´t have same latency as you have, because the server is located in UK and there is distance that causes me to get +20 latency.

Isn´t it so?

I don´t know, correct me if I am wrong.

Oehtab · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2013, 06:31:26 AM »

I have pinged server where I like to play, shows me 21-25 ms. When I am playing there, I always have around 20 ping, stable game without any trace of lags, my game runs smoothly and everything´s great, except that people don´t die.

Oehtab · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2013, 11:07:12 AM »

Yes, I also have 0-1 latency when I am pinging my router.

I have tried to set a resolution of 800x600 now, which resulted in improving this issue. However, it´s still much active and I have it still very often.

Oehtab · « **Reply #19 on:** July 25, 2013, 09:45:59 AM »

Do you have more suggestions of what could I try, Calum?

Or anyone else?

Edit: I had an idea of adding ; before some lines of SWAT4.ini file, which would lead into sending less packets. Could anyone advise me where should I try putting the ; ? So far I have tried to put it before ServerPackages=SW_Bullets and it looks like to help a bit.

[Core.System]
PurgeCacheDays=0
SavePath=../Save
CachePath=../Cache
CacheExt=.uxx
Paths=*.u
Paths=../Maps/*.s4m
Paths=../Art/*.pkg
Paths=../Textures/*.utx
Paths=../StaticMeshes/*.usx
Paths=../Animations/*.ukx
Paths=../Sounds/*.uax
Paths=../Music/*.umx
Paths=../Saves/*.uvx
Paths=../Classes/*.u
Suppress=DevMassive
Suppress=DevLoad
Suppress=DevSave
Suppress=DevNetTraffic
Suppress=DevNetTrafficRPC
Suppress=DevGarbage
Suppress=DevKill
Suppress=DevReplace
Suppress=DevCompile
Suppress=DevBind
Suppress=DevBsp
Suppress=DevAssert
Suppress=ScriptLog
Suppress=GuiScriptLog
Suppress=ScriptWarning
Suppress=WindowedMode

[Engine.GameEngine]
EnableDevTools=False
InitialMenuClass=SwatGui.SwatMainMenu
HUDMenuClass=SwatGui.HUDPage
CacheSizeMegs=256
UseSound=True
ServerActors=IpDrv.MasterServerUplink
ServerPackages=Core
ServerPackages=Engine
ServerPackages=IGEffectsSystem
ServerPackages=IGVisualEffectsSubsystem
ServerPackages=IGSoundEffectsSubsystem
ServerPackages=Editor
ServerPackages=UWindow
ServerPackages=GamePlay
ServerPackages=GUI
ServerPackages=SwatEd
ServerPackages=IpDrv
ServerPackages=Tyrion
ServerPackages=AICommon
ServerPackages=Scripting
ServerPackages=SwatAIAwareness
ServerPackages=SwatAICommon
ServerPackages=RWOSupport
ServerPackages=SwatGame
ServerPackages=SwatEffects
ServerPackages=SwatEquipment
ServerPackages=SwatProtectiveEquipment
ServerPackages=SwatSimpleEquipment
ServerPackages=SwatObjectives
ServerPackages=SwatProcedures
ServerPackages=SwatGui
ServerPackages=SwatEquipmentModels
ServerPackages=SWATofficerTex
ServerPackages=mp_OfficerTex
ServerPackages=SwatAmmo
ServerPackages=SwatCameraEffects
ServerPackages=SW_Objects
ServerPackages=SW_Bounce
ServerPackages=SW_Ambients
;ServerPackages=SW_Bullets
ServerPackages=SW_Feet
ServerPackages=SW_Hits
ServerPackages=SW_Meta
ServerPackages=SW_VO
ServerPackages=SW_Weapons
ServerPackages=SWATMaleAnimation
ServerPackages=FemaleAnimation
ServerPackages=SwatBadguyTex
ServerPackages=FemaleCasual1Tex
ServerPackages=FemaleCasual2Tex
ServerPackages=FemaleCasual3Tex
ServerPackages=FemaleHeavyTex
ServerPackages=FemaleNurseTex
ServerPackages=FemaleOfficeTex
ServerPackages=CultLeaderTextureSet
ServerPackages=LeoMelTextureSet
ServerPackages=MaleCasual1Tex
ServerPackages=MaleCasual2Tex
ServerPackages=MaleCasual3Tex
ServerPackages=MaleCasual4Tex
ServerPackages=MaleCasualArmorTex
ServerPackages=MaleChubbyTex
ServerPackages=MaleDoctorTex
ServerPackages=MaleGang1Tex
ServerPackages=MaleJanitorTextureSet
ServerPackages=MaleSuitTex
GameSpyManagerClass=SwatGame.SwatGameSpyManager

Calum · « **Reply #20 on:** July 25, 2013, 09:46:31 AM »

Pretty much all out, I'm afraid

Oehtab · « **Reply #21 on:** July 25, 2013, 09:51:47 AM »

Quote from: Calum on July 25, 2013, 09:46:31 AM

Pretty much all out, I'm afraid

But I thank you for your time and your advices and for being kind and patient with me.

Calum · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2013, 09:53:08 AM »

No problem, that's what we do here

if anything else occurs to me I'll be sure to post back, and if there are any further developments please post as well, and maybe we'll come up with a fix.

Oehtab · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2013, 09:54:13 AM »

Alright.

And if I would accidentally find a solution, I will come and let you know - because this is so big anomaly, lol.

Btw, check also my edited post, please, perhaps you could help me once more.

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