Building a new PC

[chriscool9]

Hello all,

Basically im building a new PC. Ive gone through all the hardware and I think all the stuff compatible, but I would please like a secondary opinion, or even third
So here it all is:

Mobo: Asus B85-PLUS Intel B85
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-579-AS)

Case: Antec 302 Three Hundred Two Ultimate Gaming Case - Black
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-174-AN)

PSU: Cooler Master B Series 600w Power Supply
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-330-CM)

Graphics: GTX 760
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-223-EA)

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-404-IN&groupid=701&catid=6)

I dont need to purchase any RAM as I have some, its just standard Kingston 1333. I have 8GB via 4x2GB sticks. Im aware that the case isn't great but I'm not especially bothered. Its big enough. Finally, the processor and motherboard I have osme queries about. The mobo says it is 1150 socket, and im 99% sure that that is the one that my Ivy Bridge processor uses. Its just the mobo says nothing about Ivy Bridge, just Haswell.
So yes, any confirmation that this will all be okay would be great.
Thanks all

Chris

[Geek-9pm]

Ivy Bridge and  Haswell are not the same.
For the link you gave it says:

- LGA1150 socket for 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7/ i5/ i3/Pentium®/Celeron® Processors
- Supports 22nm CPU

A search brings up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1150

LGA 1150,[1] also called Socket H3, is an Intel microprocessor compatible socket which supports the Intel Haswell microprocessor and its future successor, Broadwell.  LGA 1150 is designed as a replacement for the LGA 1155 (known as Socket H2). LGA 1150 has 1150 protruding pins to make contact with the pads on the processor.

Look at this:


Question. Why not buy the CPU and mobo from the same vendor? Ask him if the two are compatible.
EDIT: The motherboard  you choose is a 1150 and the CPU you found is a 1155.
A recommendation elsewhere says "Buy a 1155 motherboard. It is better."

[chriscool9]

Hey Geek,

Thanks alot for your reply! Yea im aware that they are not the same processors, my question was will my Ivy Bridge work in that Mobo.
But, after looking at your link, it does appear that they are actually different sockets! I didnt notice the LGA1155 and LGA1150. Time to get looking for a new mobo it would appear! Thank god I posted here and you brought this to my attention
Thanks buddy. Ill try find an alternative and report back

Oh, also, as for the buying them two together. I forgot to mention that Im actually buying the parts in stages. For long, boring and complicated reasons Ill need to get the PSU, case and mobo in one swoop

Chris

[chriscool9]

How about this? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-555-AS

[Geek-9pm]

That looks good to me. 

[Calum]

Don't downgrade from Haswell to Ivybridge.  Change the CPU, not the board.
If you do want to overclock, go for the Z87-A.  If not, stick with the B85 board and change the CPU to a non-K version.  The i5-4440 represents better value at stock, the i5-4670K will be required if you want to overclock.
You'll need some RAM if you don't have some - I would suggest this kit.
I would change the PSU to this or this as they're both better quality than the Coolermaster.

[chriscool9]

Hey Calum, thanks for your advice. Ive swapped out the PSU for another. As for downgrading from Haswell to Ivybridge, it was never my intention to get an Haswell, just an Ivy Bridge. I just accidently chose the board that supported Haswell.
RAM, I have, somewhere around here. For the time being I am just going to bung that in. See what happens
Thanks

Chris

[Calum]

Indeed.  I'm saying I would go for Haswell over Ivy Bridge, as it's newer and faster.

[chriscool9]

Hello all,

So all the hardware arrived last weekend and I've put it together, however all is not well. Basically the PC powers up, the fans spin, I can hear the DVD Drives, HDD's, and I can see the CPU fans all going but nothing comes up! Theres no POST, no spaslh screen, no beeps, notta!
So I did some Googling and troubleshooting. Heres what I have connected to the Mobo at the moment:
1 HDD
1 DVD Drive
24 Pin PSU connecter
On board VGA Cable
1 Stick of RAM
The 4 pin PSU connecter
CPU
CPU Fan

Note that I have tried it with the HDD and DVD both unplugged, separately and at the same time.

Okay, so heres the trouble shooting I have done:

Checked the 4 pin PSU cable is seated well
Checked the 24 pin PSU cable is seated well
Used the other 4 pin PSU plug (it comes with two lots of 4 incase the mobo requires and 8 pin)
Tried two different monitors
Tried HDMI (onboard)
Tried VGA (onboard)
Tried all the sticks of RAM individually
Unplugged the Reset button/Sound/HDD Activity Light/Power button Light cables
Unplugged the graphics card
Unplugged the wifi card
Reseated the CPU
Reseated the CPU Fan
Taken out the power lead and CMOS battery for 1 minuite
Unplugged the USB 3 Cable
Unplugged the Case fans
Made sure the CPU fan is plugged into the CPU_FAN slot

I literally have no idea whats going on! Please may someone help

Thanks guys

Chris

[Calum]

What spec did you go for in the end?  Some of the boards have an onboard LED that may help in diagnostics.
Sounds like you've done most things, the only two other things I could think of off the top of my head would be to remove the setup from the case and try it on a non conductive surface (the mobo box is ideal for this) to eliminate the possibility of a short somewhere, and to remove the CPU and check for any bent pins.  Oh, if you happen to have another PSU to hand, you could try that, too.

[chriscool9]

Hey Calum,

An ASUS P8Z77 LX 2 Motherboard
OCZ 650W PSU

And the rest that I mentioned in the first post.

The CPU doesnt actually have any pins, they seem to be on the mobo itself. Also checked for an LED, there isnt one. The board must be bad must it not?

Can anybody please tell me what is going on.
Thanks

Chris

[Geek-9pm]

Are these details for the board you bought?
Processor & Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer:   Intel
Chipset Model:   Z77 Express
Total Processor Supported:   1
Processor Technology:   Smart Response Technology
Processor Technology:   Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
Processor Socket:   Socket H2 LGA-1155
Processor Supported:   Core i3
Processor Supported:   Core i5
Processor Supported:   Core i7
Processor Supported:   Pentium Dual-core
Processor Supported:   Celeron Dual-Core
64-bit Processing:   Yes_
Multi GPU Supported:   CrossFireX

The  CPU you have is:
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
So, it all looks good on paper.
You should contact the vendor right away.

[Calum]

I meant check the pins in the CPU socket, should've worded that better sorry.
I would still check it outside the case and if possible with another PSU, because you're basically left with 3 possibilities - dead board, bad PSU, or a short, that's in order of probability.

[chriscool9]

Hey Geek,

That is all correct.

Calum, Ive checked those pins too, all seem fine, and I did remove the mobo when I took it all apart last night and completely rebuilt it. As for swapping the PSU out I don't have one to hand. I think I am just going to email the vendor and see what they can do for me. I bought it all from Overclockers and I hear those guys are pretty good. Its definately a weekend job though!

Chris

[Calum]

Got to be a dead part then, I would suspect the board too.  Have a spare PSU or two sitting here if you fancy giving it a shot, btw.
Overclockers are generally very good for service especially if the parts are basically brand new as they'll just exchange from stock, if you do have any problems with them though give me a nudge