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    Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
    « on: March 22, 2014, 02:35:00 PM »
    Today I've (with a lot of effort) managed to delete all my AMD drivers and installed new beta ones, but now Windows refuses to switch to them and still uses the default Vista drivers. Is there a way I can convince it to use the drivers I want?

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    Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
    « Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 02:54:04 PM »
    No. Windows builds a driver database at the first install.
    This database is used forever.  Or the life of the OS.
    Specifically, which  drives do you not like?
    When given choice, the OS picks the best.

    Did you already read this:

    How To Update Drivers in Windows Vista

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    You might need to update a Windows Vista driver to fix a Device Manager error code or maybe you just like staying up to date with manufacturer releases for your favorite hardware.
    The method does NOT require you to delete anything.

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    Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
    « Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014, 03:00:34 PM »
    Post a link to the drivers you tried...most likely the incorrect ones...
    No reason to fool with BETA drivers...they a re called that for a reason.
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      Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
      « Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 03:08:32 PM »
      Well I got a few recomendations that the 14.2 Beta drivers are good (I'm a 100% sure i've used the right ones, dont give me that bulls*it), and installing them requires deleting all previous AMD drivers. Apparently the OS hasn't thought about having a choice at all. In previous updates it did choose to run the AMD drivers afterward, but not this time. Is there a manual way to force the use of specific drivers?

      Drivers link: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-catalyst-windows-beta.aspx

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      Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
      « Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 03:19:19 PM »
      Shooting  the messenger creates silence...
      Best of Luck.
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        Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
        « Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 03:24:34 PM »
        Look It's just that I'm tired of being treated like an idiot all the time and people suggesting obvious stuff. Sorry if that offended you.

        Also CCC doesn't seem to be working, just gives me an error:
        "Amd catalyst control center cannot be started, there are currently no settings that can be configured"

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          Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
          « Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 04:35:13 PM »
          I got it working. Thanks for the luck, it helped.  ::)

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          Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
          « Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 07:33:34 PM »
          No. Windows builds a driver database at the first install.
          This database is used forever.  Or the life of the OS.
          This is false. Windows searches the INF files in %SystemRoot%\System32\DriverStore to find matching VendorIDs with the hardware. When new Drivers are "installed" the appropriate INF files are added.


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          Specifically, which  drives do you not like?
          When given choice, the OS picks the best.
          This is not accurate either.

          Where Windows Searches for Drivers

          It will use the first one it finds- there is no "best".

          For others having the issues described herein:

          AMD Drivers are one of the main reasons I abhor using AMD/ATI devices. I imagine they are better now but they were a nightmare back when it was ATI. They really really really do not get along well when other drivers are already installed for the target adapter.

          The problem is this doesn't operate well in combination with the fact that Windows actually includes a lot of drivers for running many graphics cards- So those drivers get used. You need to uninstall those drivers- but you can't. If you uninstall them, you need to reboot and when you reboot Windows will look for the driver for the hardware and reinstall it. The only 'solution' seems to be to completely wipe the Windows Driverstore of all AMD and ATI related Display Drivers. This prevents windows from finding a driver and should allow the Display Driver installation to proceed without interference. I imagine the drivers now try to do that automatically but it's prone to issues, which is probably the cause of many issues that AMD drivers and Catalyst Control Center appear to have for many users.
          I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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          Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
          « Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 08:33:39 PM »
          I have been corrected.
          As BC said, the thing is the DATA STORE.
          http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff544868%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
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          Starting with Windows Vista, the driver store is a trusted collection of inbox and third-party driver packages. The operating system maintains this collection in a secure location on the local hard disk. Only the driver packages in the driver store can be installed for a device.
          :-[

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            Re: Windows won't switch to AMD drivers?!?!
            « Reply #9 on: March 23, 2014, 02:48:18 AM »
            AMD Drivers are one of the main reasons I abhor using AMD/ATI devices. I imagine they are better now but they were a nightmare back when it was ATI.
            They're still a nightmare.