How many pages ? ?

[Verylost]

Ok i have a book that 300 pages with strandard 0.25 inch margin on all 4 sides of the print paper;  thats 0.14 in letter size;  roman type nothing special .      No photos or graphs etc in the book, its 64 lines down and 73 characters across .
 
Whats the math to figure out how many pages = one mb  ?       How that makes sense  -  thanks  : )

[Salmon Trout]

You do not say if it is a Word document, or plain text, or what, why don't you create a dummy document using Lorem Ipsum and save it and see what the file size comes out as?

[Verylost]

I didn t know it mattered since i posted the margin size but plain text nothing fancy .    No photos or graphs .

Thats how e books are set up. 

As for why i don t do it myself you ask OK here's why; i don t know the math guessing its 64 x 74 = 4736 but then how many characters equal one mb and then whats the math after that never heard of lorem Ipsum how does one create a dummie document on that ?

Their must be math geeks here that can figure out the above out blindfolded ; maybe the next poster :  (

[Salmon Trout]

For plain text it's either one byte per character if you are using ASCII or 2 bytes if you are using Unicode. So you just do the arithmetic: number of chars per line X lines per page X number of pages. 1 megabyte is 1,048,576 bytes. So the arithmetic is very simple.

[Verylost]

Awful at math i'll wait on an answer ho hum

[Salmon Trout]

It's not "math". It's arithmetic. Don't you have a calculator?

[Verylost]

Lets not stress out as usual here on this site and its math just not good at math and no rush; will wait .

[Salmon Trout]

Rolls eyes.



 

[patio]

We're stressing out ? ?...you got a qualified well stated answer here.

[BC_Programmer]

Lets not stress out

Nobody here is "stressing out". It is just hard to comprehend that somebody could be so vacuous as to be told the rather straightforward arithmetic to their problem, but because they are "bad at math" decides they will instead wait for somebody to spoonfeed the answer. The reason you are "Bad at Math" might be related to the fact that you refuse to do it.

It was fairly straightforward arithmetic. If you are waiting for somebody to do it for you and provide the answer, you will be waiting a while. Willful Ignorance does not tend to be encouraged.

[patio]

Or as was stated in Shawshank Redemption...."How can you be so obtuse" ...? ?

30 days in the hole.

[Salmon Trout]

Check his posts. The OP posted more or less exactly the same question 1 year ago, and got the same treatment, and still has not worked it out.Who prints e-books anyhow? The toner/ink and paper would cost more than going to the bookstore, surely? Even better a public library. Can't you just get in the e-book reader and see how many pages there are? They usually have numbers in the corner, so find the last one and bingo!

[patio]

BTW...i love the arithmetic clarification....

[Salmon Trout]

it bugs me when people think arithmetic and mathematics are the same thing. Arithmetic is to mathematics as spelling is to writing.

[camerongray]

Wait, why do you even need to know this, surely you can just check the file size.

The formula given for plain text is hardly difficult, I'm sure you are capable of working a calculator... Why should we do it for you?

The simple formula will also only work for plain text (.txt file), it is impossible to work out the file size of it if it includes any sort of formatting, fonts, layout, compression.etc such as in a word document or PDF file.

Drives me mental when people just want a numerical answer and totally reject helpful advice that attempts to explain how it all actually works...

[Verylost]

Well excuse me for thinking that their are smart math geeks here that can do the " Math " blindfolded in a snap; but all of you have proved me dead wrong.      I wrongly guessed that it was this sites purpose to answer all questions not nit pick over them and drag it out ; but you all proved that wrong.


But luckly elsewhere i had the correct answer posted on the 3rd post in a non - combative mode .

And the answer;  the  " Math "  goes something like this with no excuses posted below  .

As for why i didn t do the math myself; i stink at math and for me i ask not  a crime and no e book spec s .

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First convert 10,272kB to MB by dividing it by 1000:
10,272kB/1000=10.272MB
 
Then we can calculate how much space does one page take:
10.272MB/300=0.03424MB
 
After that we can finally calculate how many pages does one megabyte require
1MB/0.03424MB=29.2
 
So around ~30 pages/MB. . .

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300 p  = 10 mb

[BC_Programmer]

Well excuse me for thinking that their are smart math geeks here that can do the " Math " blindfolded in a snap; but all of you have proved me dead wrong.

I can't speak for ST or Camerongray but the arithmetic is quite straightforward and it was quite easy to figure out. (I did so as I was somewhat curious myself) I did not share my results as I was not interested in helping you avoid cognitive exercise.

And the answer;  the  " Math "  goes something like this with no excuses posted below  .

That is the answer to a different question.

Your question here is, "if one page of text is 64 lines by 73 columns, how many pages will fit in a megabyte". The question you got answered was, "if 300 pages take 10,272K and all pages use the same amount of storage, how many pages will fit in 1MB". These are two different questions, and as it happens, they have two different answers. (And both require different assumptions to be made as well)

[camerongray]

Well excuse me for thinking that their are smart math geeks here that can do the " Math " blindfolded in a snap; but all of you have proved me dead wrong.

Watch your attitude, maybe the people here wanted to help you more by actually getting you to understand and learn how the calculation works rather than simply giving you an answer which teaches you nothing.

Classic case of "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."

Then again, I should have expected this, the vast majority of your other posts on the forum are similarly rude.

[Salmon Trout]

Watch your attitude

It's very passive-aggressive, which puts one off somewhat. I actually posted an example calculation and a couple of example e-book file sizes but I edited them out when I saw what he had been posting.

[Allan]

Okay guys. Let's let it go please. We've all read the thread and understand what's going on.