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Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« on: June 19, 2016, 12:02:51 AM »
I do not think this is a OS issue. Maybe not even a browser issue.  :-\

Whenever I go to gmail to check my mail, I have to adjust the font size by using the ctl+ combination to zoom in. (Like other seniors, I have the  low vision problem.)  Yes, I l could use the magnifier, and sometimes I do. Brut it is  more convenient to just user the zoom feature fouled in modern browsers.

Look at this:

(To conserve bandwidth I reduced the size of the image.)

Thee is no horizontal scroll bar, so I can not slide over to see the right side of the screen. But if I zoom out, the font is much too small for me to read. For some reason gmail thinks I would rather see the left sidebar instead of the text of the messages. Is this not a flaw in gmail? What can I do to make reading gmail easier.

Am I the only person that has this problem with gmail?   ???
Any help welcome.

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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2016, 12:40:09 AM »
This is an issue with G-mail that has been reported quite frequently on their issues pages. Often in different contexts. The usual reply is to blame the user for having the audacity to want to use their software in a particular way. "Reduce the size of your fonts" is not a solution, despite their repeated claims that it is. They should be fixing their software, not working up new ways to blame the user.

you might try the "basic" mode. It doesn't use any AJAX or javascript so it shouldn't be disabling the scrollbar. Browsers display the scrollbar when content is beyond the viewable area:

EDIT: Basic mode link:
http://mail.google.com/mail?ui=html

That said, the page might be explicitly disabling scrollbars. You would think browsers would have options to prevent this to workaround web designs created by egocentric companies who can't accept that their software might have issues, but I can't seem to find any.

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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2016, 12:52:44 AM »
In Chrome there is an extension to make the Gmail left sidebar resizeable, but you still won't get a horizontal scroll bar when zoomed so far that message text flows off the right side. Still you will see a bit more before that happens.  see here:

https://dottech.org/177566/how-to-resize-the-label-column-in-gmail-tip/


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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2016, 02:03:56 AM »
That said, the page might be explicitly disabling scrollbars. You would think browsers would have options to prevent this to workaround web designs created by egocentric companies who can't accept that their software might have issues, but I can't seem to find any.

In Firefox, this can be done using about:config.  There's a bevy of options beginning with dom.disable which stops websites from disabling certain features.  I used to set most of these to true (which disables this feature being disabled...) to eliminate popups with no close button, no title bar, and so forth.  This was before I started using Adblock Plus and now uBlock Origin, so I haven't actually set these options for years but I'm fairly sure they still work :)
dom.disable_window_open_feature.scrollb ars is the one in question here but some of the others may come in handy, they're fairly obviously named but a quick Google search will reveal more info if needed.
This link may also be handy as a reference: http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#DOM.

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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2016, 02:31:34 AM »
dom.disable_window_open_feature.scrollbars
After I did this in Firefox I could zoom a message in Gmail and see a horizontal scroll bar up to 200% zoom, but it vanishes at the next zoom level (240%).

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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2016, 02:45:27 AM »
After I did this in Firefox I could zoom a message in Gmail and see a horizontal scroll bar up to 200% zoom, but it vanishes at the next zoom level (240%).

Ahh, Gmail is blocked here at work, so thanks for testing.

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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2016, 02:55:00 AM »
I always zoom using the CTRL key and the keypad plus and minus keys, and I have a Firefox add-on called Default Zoom Level, which shows the current zoom level in the top toolbar.

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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2016, 04:07:33 AM »
The zoom level steps in Firefox are a comma-separated list of decimal values held in about.config (toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues). The default on mine seemed to be

0.3,0.5,0.67,0.8,0.9,1,1.1,1.2,1.33,1.5,1.7,2,2.4,3

so to get a more fine grained series I changed this to 0.1 steps:

0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1,1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.5,1.6,1.7,1.8,1.9,2,2.1,2.2,2.3,2.4,2.5,2.6,2.7,2.8,2.9,3.0

I had to restart Firefox for this to take effect. Following this I was able to see that when zooming a message in Gmail the horizontal scroll bar previously enabled vanished out of the bottom of the Firefox window at 220% zoom level. If I then hit F11 for full screen Firefox I was able to get up to 240% still with a horizontal scroll bar. At 250% it vanished.

Note: my display resolution is 1920x1080

I don't know if these whole-screen grabs will show up properly:

At 240% zoom full screen:



For comparison, here is 100% zoom:




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Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2016, 08:07:31 AM »
Thanks to
BC_Programmer, Salmon Trout and Calum.  :D
Because of your help,now I have  tools  to improve the visual layout of G mail.

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    Re: Can not adjust Gmail visual aspect in Firefox.
    « Reply #9 on: July 25, 2016, 05:46:52 AM »
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