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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2016, 01:57:23 PM »
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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2016, 02:20:57 PM »
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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2016, 03:37:45 PM »
Looks like the C: Drive is ILL . I'd replace it with a healthy drive. It looks like its used up all of its free sectors, sectors that drives have to correct for damage, and so further damage will shrink the drive capacity or eventually the drive will completely fail and all data could be lost or further corrupted.

This drive should not be trusted anymore and any important data backed up immediately to avoid data loss. Surprised with the boot count for this drive over 14,000 with 9300 run hours. The computer this drive was in has been turned on and off a lot and average run time less than 1 hour for each boot, or lots of boots because of other problems that kept upping the boot counter.


Do you happen to have any other computers laying around to take a Hard Drive out of and install into this system as a new C: drive?

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2016, 03:54:57 PM »
Windows 8 and Windows 10 dual boot with two SSD's

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2016, 04:03:52 PM »
Looks like the C: Drive is ILL . I'd replace it with a healthy drive. It looks like its used up all of its free sectors, sectors that drives have to correct for damage, and so further damage will shrink the drive capacity or eventually the drive will completely fail and all data could be lost or further corrupted.

This drive should not be trusted anymore and any important data backed up immediately to avoid data loss. Surprised with the boot count for this drive over 14,000 with 9300 run hours. The computer this drive was in has been turned on and off a lot and average run time less than 1 hour for each boot, or lots of boots because of other problems that kept upping the boot counter.


Do you happen to have any other computers laying around to take a Hard Drive out of and install into this system as a new C: drive?

Yes it has been turned off and on a lot I would turn it on in the afternoon and then off and back on at night. so it's a new drive I need, so beit.

I have another drive in the pc should I move everything to it.

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2016, 04:08:38 PM »

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2016, 04:19:08 PM »
I thought F: might have been an external drive. But yes you could repurpose internal drive F: as C:, but I would backup your data to an external drive before moving forward with repurposing the F: drive to be C:

Then install Windows clean and then copy data from external back to the new C: drive if needed etc. Then this should put an end to your troubles with the freeze ups.

The damaged drive that is ill should be removed from the system in the end so that Windows no longer associates with it or if you dont want to remove it just remove the power and sata com cable from it so that its not connected to the system anymore. I have seen people leave ill drives into system and swap drives and then the system acts up because the ill drive is being used for paging etc. You dont want the drive to be in use any longer after getting your data off of it, and only the other drive to be used which should be healthy according to crystaldiskinfo.


The ill drive has a bad sector count of 1BE which Hex to Decimal conversion shows as 446 bad sectors which is quite a few. I have one hard drive with just 2 bad sectors that I continue to use, but not use with important data. Previous owner likely bumped it when it was running. I got it free and use it still because 2 bad sectors isnt that bad. But this drive likely has a scuff mark on a platter from getting bumped when running which is the most common cause for damaged sectors.

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2016, 02:08:06 PM »
Would this happen to have anything to do with the fact that I do not wait for the PC to shut down properly, I shut down on screen and then turn the plug off when the PC is still running.

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2016, 02:18:37 PM »
Actually, that is REALLY bad.
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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2016, 02:25:43 PM »
Actually, that is REALLY bad.

I know  :)  and I should not be doing it but I didn't think I was doing lasting harm.

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2016, 05:22:25 AM »
Yes that is bad. When shutting down computer, just walk away and let it do its thing and shut down gracefully so that the hard drive is not trying to write to the drive and then you pull power and corrupt data or worse cause the hard drive to scratch a platter when it doesnt park itself before shutdown where the heads move away from the data sectors of the platter before spinning down.

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Re: PC frezzes every-night
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2016, 12:37:59 PM »
Yes that is bad. When shutting down computer, just walk away and let it do its thing and shut down gracefully so that the hard drive is not trying to write to the drive and then you pull power and corrupt data or worse cause the hard drive to scratch a platter when it doesnt park itself before shutdown where the heads move away from the data sectors of the platter before spinning down.
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So that's more than likely what did the damage.

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    Re: PC frezzes every-night
    « Reply #27 on: July 21, 2016, 05:57:22 AM »
    In fact, pc go in sleep mode and the problem happens when waking up? possible cause could be the bios is configured for a deep sleep mode (s3) and the wakeup event is not handled via usb mouse/keyboard.

    is there hard drive activity during the "freeze"? if so, you're not frozen, it's just busy.

    how long do you wait till rebooting? If you've noticed that win 7 laptop can sometimes take 20 sec or more to fully wakeup when configured for hybrid sleep (automatically hybernating after extended sleep). the desktop will be visible but nothing responds... i assume the delay is from fully restoring memory state from hiberfile.sys.