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Air conditioners as big a threat
« on: July 24, 2016, 08:54:27 AM »
Secretary of State John Kerry said in Vienna on Friday that air conditioners and refrigerators are as big of a threat to life as the threat of terrorism posed by groups like the Islamic State
Above is a quote from Fox News.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/23/kerry-air-conditioners-as-big-threat-as-isis.html
Is he serious? Why would he say that? From the above source:
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The Washington Examiner reported that Kerry was in Vienna to amend the 1987 Montreal Protocol that would phase out hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, from basic household and commercial appliances like air conditioners, refrigerators, and inhalers
OK. Now  I see. It was a meting about hydro-fluorocarbons.. They claim that the HFCs are much worse that CO2.

Perhaps the most widespread use of AC is in automobiles.  Here is a reference.
Automotive air conditioning and R12 updates
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The home mechanic, looking at a can or two of R12 or R134a, may think that government concern over refrigerant is overblown. However, CFCs like R12 have been found high in the atmosphere, where they destroy ozone (since CFCs have been regulated, the ever-widening holes in the ozone layer have been healing themselves). In addition, R134a is 1,400 times as effective at trapping heat as carbon dioxide; a few leaks from a few cars would probably not have any serious impact, but there are an estimated (by the auto industry) 400 million mobile air conditioners out there.
Do you believe that?  :o

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Re: Air conditioners as big a threat
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 11:52:15 AM »
No.
" Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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Re: Air conditioners as big a threat
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 12:05:58 PM »
That is just plain Fox News misreporting. Even in its own article you can see that. The first paragraph says "Secretary of State John Kerry said in Vienna on Friday that air conditioners and refrigerators are as big of [sic] a threat to life as the threat of terrorism posed by groups like the Islamic State.". However, when you read a little further on, you see what he actually said, which was "“Yesterday, I met in Washington with 45 nations — defense ministers and foreign ministers — as we were working together on the challenge of [the Islamic State], and terrorism. It’s hard for some people to grasp it, but what we–you–are doing here right now is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself.” Not the same at all.






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Re: Air conditioners as big a threat
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2016, 12:10:01 PM »
Quote from: Gooek-9PM
... but there are an estimated (by the auto industry) 400 million mobile air conditioners out there.

Do you believe that?  :o

No.
That is probably an accurate figure. There are 253 million trucks & cars in the US alone.

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Re: Air conditioners as big a threat
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 04:43:35 PM »
My No answer was in reply to the fact i've never believed any words that came out of Senator Kerry's mouth...or his backside for that matter.
" Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "