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What Is Your Internet Service Provider Now?

AOL
3 (10.3%)
Wanadoo
1 (3.4%)
Comcast
2 (6.9%)
Tiscali
2 (6.9%)
Bulldog
0 (0%)
BT
0 (0%)
Verizon
5 (17.2%)
Cablevision
1 (3.4%)
Other (please specify)
15 (51.7%)
Roadrunner
0 (0%)
TeleNet
0 (0%)
Skynet
0 (0%)

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What ISP do you have.
« on: February 28, 2006, 04:39:52 PM »
This has probably been done but i think doing it on the new Poll system is a good idea.

I have been with several.

Wanadoo.
Tiscali.

Now I'm With AOL.

What about you? 8-)

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Re: What ISP do you have.
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2006, 04:51:20 PM »
Cablevision in New York. Have friends with both AOL and Verizon DSL and all I hear is complaints. Since I already get TV cable and VOIP phone with Cablevision, it seemed logical to use them for an ISP.

PS. All bets are off if ConEd turns off the lights. ;D

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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2006, 04:52:11 PM »
Verizon!  ;D

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2006, 05:02:07 PM »
See you guys with your strange American ISPs lol

I'll add them

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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2006, 05:04:01 PM »
Verizon is the best!  ;D  Fast... Reliable... Above average support  ;D

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2006, 05:05:28 PM »
Cool lol,

I have never heard of it. There is so many in the UK so lets not even go to them in the US lol

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2006, 05:08:57 PM »
Do you have MCI over there?

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006, 06:28:06 PM »
Nope lol

Whats that?

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    « Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 07:32:21 PM »
    Telus  thats in Canada


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      « Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 07:35:55 PM »
      For some reason, it says I already voted. Odd: I didn't. Anyways... Verizon, though we're thinking about Comcast.
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        Re: What ISP do you have.
        « Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006, 10:09:53 PM »
        http://www.comcen.com.au
        On the East coast of Australia, I'm very happy with them.
        (PS, I voted for you Dilbert)  :D

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          « Reply #11 on: February 28, 2006, 10:32:08 PM »
          Say, thanks, Fed.  ;D I must have voted in a previous incarnation of this thread. Odd that YaBB would remember it... *censored*??? Now it says I voted. That's too kooky-crisp for me.  :o
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            « Reply #12 on: March 01, 2006, 07:32:24 AM »
            Aztelekom!  ;D
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            « Reply #13 on: March 01, 2006, 08:17:56 AM »
            Nice one guys,

            Does anyone have super fast internet?

            I think you can get like 30 megs a second with some companys.

            I only have a meg a second.

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              Re: What ISP do you have.
              « Reply #14 on: March 01, 2006, 11:06:29 AM »
              I am happy with my dial up from 9 to 52 kb/ps  >:(
              There was introduced  a link before that measures your real connection speed.  www.numion.com
              This really upsets me...
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              « Reply #15 on: March 01, 2006, 11:24:57 AM »
              Nice mine looks about right.

              How long did it take you to carry out the test on dail up?

              like 3 hours  :P

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                « Reply #16 on: March 01, 2006, 01:47:52 PM »
                Glad that I am on the Dial Up. Otherwise I would sit for hours in front of pc. Dial up drives crazy and I hate everything on the world within 10 minutes. So get rid off pc quickly. You know internet/computer is like a drug. Addictive!
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                  « Reply #17 on: March 01, 2006, 03:51:42 PM »
                  Netspace, (Australia.)

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                    Re: What ISP do you have.
                    « Reply #18 on: March 01, 2006, 06:06:23 PM »
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                    Nice one guys,

                    Does anyone have super fast internet?

                    I think you can get like 30 megs a second with some companys.

                    I only have a meg a second.

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                    With a modem cable I can get 100 MBps. I'm using my wireless, however, so I am restricted to 11 MBps.

                    Not that I care... ;D

                    [edit]There. It says wireless now. Happy, Mac? Twit.[/edit]
                    « Last Edit: March 02, 2006, 08:38:32 PM by Timothy_Bennett »
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                    « Reply #19 on: March 01, 2006, 06:58:47 PM »
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                    Wanadon't and Tiscallies aren't strange????? ;D
                    Pipex 2M here..... Soon to be 8M.

                    The best UK DSL speedtester is at ADSLguide. You'll need Sun Java installed.
                    « Last Edit: March 01, 2006, 07:03:20 PM by Backdated »

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                    Re: What ISP do you have.
                    « Reply #20 on: March 01, 2006, 07:23:17 PM »
                    Add Roadrunner to the list. That's a popular ISP down here too  ;)

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                    « Reply #21 on: March 02, 2006, 08:04:19 AM »
                    Rogers in Canada and 5mbit.

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                    « Reply #22 on: March 02, 2006, 08:47:19 AM »
                    Well, we had CenturyTel (I don't know if that exists outside of Wisconsin) but now we have nothing 'cause it's too expensive. Life sucks.

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                    Re: What ISP do you have.
                    « Reply #23 on: March 02, 2006, 09:10:07 AM »
                    My DSL service is from Sprint, with Earthlink as the underlying ISP.  I like to use dslreports.com to occasionally test my speed.  They also have a Tweaks Test which provides recommended tweaks where applicable.  Any, they have a downloadable utility called DrTCP to help make tweaks to your system.  They also have a forum where you can discuss Internet connection issues.

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                    « Reply #24 on: March 02, 2006, 09:24:26 AM »
                    In the UK at least, DrTCP does little to improve performance speedwise unless MTU etc settings are way off. It can help to improve site availability problems.
                    ADSLguide is the dé facto source for UK DSL information.

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                    « Reply #25 on: March 02, 2006, 09:41:49 AM »
                    Well, I see that ADSLguide is probably not a good tool for US residents.  I hadn't given this much thought until recently, but I clearly see now - and I admit many would say it's obvious - that the results from any speed testing service will be affected by the geograpic proximity between the user's location and the testing site.  

                    Even within the U.S., if I go to dslreports.com or http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and run tests from different cities, I'll get different results.  So, it seems best to consistently test from the same locations to get valid, comparable test results.

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                    « Reply #26 on: March 02, 2006, 12:33:46 PM »
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                    « Reply #27 on: March 02, 2006, 12:42:19 PM »
                    How about adding Skynet and TeleNet?

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                    « Reply #28 on: March 02, 2006, 12:43:25 PM »
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                    How about adding Skynet and TeleNet?


                    Agreed.

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                    « Reply #29 on: March 02, 2006, 12:58:31 PM »
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                    Well, I see that ADSLguide is probably not a good tool for US residents.  I hadn't given this much thought until recently, but I clearly see now - and I admit many would say it's obvious - that the results from any speed testing service will be affected by the geograpic proximity between the user's location and the testing site.  

                    Even within the U.S., if I go to dslreports.com or http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and run tests from different cities, I'll get different results.  So, it seems best to consistently test from the same locations to get valid, comparable test results.

                    Different speed tests use different methods and different filesizes etc so even if two test sites are next door to each other, results can vary dramatically.
                    In the UK, BTw, who control most of the UK DSL infrastructure, have set up a very useful speed test which eliminates the ISPs systems. Therefore, the user can tell if the problem lies between the exchange and the computer or with the ISPs own infrastructure. The problem is that the test only applies to the IPStream delivery method.

                    Basically, if you find a "local" test site such as DSLReports that the majority of users have confidence in, stick with it.

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                    « Reply #30 on: March 02, 2006, 01:07:34 PM »
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                    I'm using my woreless, however, so I am restricted to 11 MBps.

                    Not that I care... ;D

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                      « Reply #31 on: March 02, 2006, 08:37:21 PM »
                      If all of our time was wasted correcting everyday typos, we'd do nothing but, and we'd never get anything done. Speaking of which, IO is usually all-caps in the computer world so that programmers know exactly what you're trying to say. It took me a moment to get the fact that you weren't trying to speak some foreign language in the midst of your posts. You did that a lot in your first incarnation here as merlin_2.

                      I'm only saying this because I KNOW that you're reading this, and I KNOW that, sadly, you'll be back. And your ranting will be silenced again. Eventually, you WILL run out of IP addresses, or just get bored with spamming these forums.

                      And by the way, typing mistakes have no bearing on computer knowledge. Your pathetic attempt to attack me is noted.
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                      « Reply #32 on: March 03, 2006, 10:18:18 AM »
                      I note that it is not possible to vote for all the ISPs that one uses.

                      (Io is a satellite of Jupiter.)

                      To the speakers of non-english languages their language is not foreign.

                      English may be thought of as foreign to a non English speaker.

                      You should be careful to exercise a little more diplomatic tact.
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                        « Reply #33 on: March 03, 2006, 10:23:39 AM »
                        Yes, it is, but I somehow doubt that's what you were talking about.

                        Hello again, merlin_2. What is this, now, the sixth, seventh?

                        Lesse...

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                        « Reply #34 on: March 03, 2006, 10:27:33 AM »
                        Who are these other people? I have never heard of Merlin_2.

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                        « Reply #35 on: March 03, 2006, 10:31:27 AM »
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                        Who are these other people? I have never heard of Merlin_2.

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                        Roger that!

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                          « Reply #36 on: March 03, 2006, 12:24:20 PM »
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                          Who are these other people? I have never heard of Merlin_2.

                          Notification off.

                          Let's see. You linked in your sig to the same old thread that Mac and the rest did. (A thread, I might add, you have to search for to find.) This suggests, or more accurately screams, that you've been here before. Also, when you wrote

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                          How many resurrections is this now? Anyone counting?

                          It proves that, if you are not Merlin/Mac/etc., you at least know these incarnations. And your classic anti-religion posts are beginning to show again:

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                          Classic case of the church's brain is missing.

                          You act like them, you know them, and you write like them. So, there is no way to say that you are telling the truth here. Besides, your attempts to disguise yourself again and again aren't very well thought out. I note that you are at least keeping most of your posts on computers, let's see if we can keep it that way, mmkay?
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                            « Reply #37 on: March 04, 2006, 09:37:55 AM »
                            No reply, Duncan? Looks like you can't argue with my points. Perfect.
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                            « Reply #38 on: March 04, 2006, 12:09:35 PM »
                            Ok guys so everyone has the ISP Other

                            Someone should make a ISP with that name it looks popular

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                            « Reply #39 on: March 04, 2006, 12:22:26 PM »
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                            Well, there are a great many others.  Some are big, such as SBC and MSN.  Others are local, such as the one my mother uses in Ohio; it's geographic area overlaps about 8 counties.

                            Prior to me starting my DSL account with Sprint/Earthlink, my ISP was CompuServe, a company founded and based in Columbus, OH and later acquired by AOL.
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                            « Reply #40 on: March 04, 2006, 03:41:14 PM »
                            Much longer ago than I care to remember, I think CompuServe was my first real ISP.

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                            « Reply #41 on: March 04, 2006, 05:10:21 PM »
                            And their only competition was that upstart America Online. I think I got that included with my Geoworks software!  :o

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                            « Reply #42 on: March 04, 2006, 09:54:11 PM »
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                            Much longer ago than I care to remember, I think CompuServe was my first real ISP.
                            I consider it my first real ISP, also.  I did have email (text only) service prior to that by creating an account with, if I recall correctly, Columbus FreeNet.  

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                            « Reply #43 on: March 04, 2006, 10:04:42 PM »
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                            And their only competition was that upstart America Online. I think I got that included with my Geoworks software!  :o
                            Actually, another company comes to mind that was an ISP in the early days of the commercialization of the Internet.  It was called Prodigy.

                            Those years with CompuServe, prior to the acquisition by AOL, were an interesting time.  I recall good technical support; I believe the support folks were based right here in Columbus.  No outsourcing to a foreign country.  And, I could usually get in contact with a human without going through a long processs of automated questions and without being put on hold for a long time.  Once AOL acquired it, it seemed to become a kind of AOL clone.  The tech support went downhill from there, as I experienced it.


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                            I consider it my first real ISP, also.  I did have email (text only) service prior to that by creating an account with, if I recall correctly, Columbus FreeNet.  

                            I had an email account via I think it was Prestel. It was months before I realised that I didn't actually know anyone else with an email address, so the account was totally useless!

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                              « Reply #45 on: March 08, 2006, 02:57:01 PM »
                              Ross mate i too have AOL and our problems within the last year have been endless, it can get sooooo laggy its just stupid, sometimes the browser wont laod and it COMPLETELY messed with my wireless. Do you have wireless, if not be very carefull in getting it while using AOL. Our 1st computer got wirless on with AOL installed and the AOL software completely screwed it up. However i got a laptop for xmas and i got that wireless enables with NO aol crap on it and ahvnt had an issue with it yet. Just like to know your views on them as many of people i know have mooved from them.

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                              « Reply #46 on: March 09, 2006, 05:05:30 AM »
                              Yeah i'm not Wireless we Only have one computer connected to the internet (that's my one 8-)) i only went with AOL because Tiscali told me politely to leave quickly. they even let me keep the modem lol

                              I was on a Downloading spree of Scrubs off Limewire.

                              So i phoned up All the ISPs and the only one that is truly unlimited broadband its AOL so im with them now.

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                              « Reply #47 on: March 09, 2006, 06:46:32 AM »
                              Were you active on the Tiscali forums Ross? If so, what was your username? I got banned several times for daring to tell the truth!
                              btw, Zen are still unlimited.

                              You do know that you don't need all the AOL crud to use the connection or email don't you?

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                              « Reply #48 on: March 09, 2006, 09:49:34 AM »
                              I wasnt on the forums mate.

                              I didnt like the way Tiscali treted me.

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                              « Reply #49 on: March 09, 2006, 02:38:11 PM »
                              Given the number of customers Tiscali UK supposedly have, there must be a lot of masochists resident in the UK. ;D

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                              « Reply #50 on: March 09, 2006, 02:58:10 PM »
                               ;D They are not what they are cracked up to be.

                              and Wandoo suck as well all i had was connection probs.

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                              « Reply #51 on: March 14, 2006, 12:01:06 AM »
                              I have Joink Wireless
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                              « Reply #52 on: March 19, 2006, 06:57:42 PM »
                              TPG  Australia. :)

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                              « Reply #53 on: March 19, 2006, 07:34:11 PM »
                              Australia? Then Fed should come right over and fix your computer!

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                                « Reply #54 on: March 19, 2006, 09:44:02 PM »
                                It's a big place. :)

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                                « Reply #55 on: March 19, 2006, 11:37:11 PM »
                                Just big enough I expect.  ;)

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                                  « Reply #56 on: March 20, 2006, 03:25:40 AM »
                                  HAHAHAH Ross

                                  Downloading spree, heheheh.  Anyway if you use a high bandwidth dont they cap your connection as pasrt of their "Equal Bandwidth" plan??  Has anyone got any good recomendations for an ISP becasue were getting sick of Aol.

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                                  « Reply #57 on: March 20, 2006, 01:33:50 PM »
                                  No man i dont have that "Fair Usage Policy crap" What AOL package do you have

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                                  « Reply #58 on: March 21, 2006, 05:00:17 AM »
                                  Easily bored - Stop reading now! ;D

                                  In the UK there are only two BTw based "unlimited" ISPs in Zen and AOL. How long these two can absorb the massively increased delivery costs of unlimited broadband provision is anyones guess but I think they're probably holding out for a very unlikely lifeline in the form of ADSLMax, WiFiMax or LLU investment costs to drop sharply and very rapidly.

                                  For those who don't know why the UK broadband delivery climate suddenly deteriorated last year, the old adage is true - There is no such thing as a free lunch.
                                  Remember that "free" upgrade to 2M that virtually every BTw based customer received? Well, it depended on BTw changing their pricing model from UBC (Unit Based Charging) to CBC (Capacity Based Charging). What this meant was that the ISP had to fill his centrals to very maximum capacity in order to maintain pre change returns. During off peak periods and "normal" users bursty usage, a reasonable profit can be made while customers remain largely unaware of any changes.
                                  However, at peak times, when every man and his dog wants to get online, the forced congestion issues become glaringly apparent in the form of slow connections etc. In an effort to counter this effect, ISPs started to discourage and then pariah the so called "heavy" (Read P2P) users of multiple and/or continuous 2 way connections.

                                  Myself and many others railed against the introduction of the CBC model long before it's introduction but the "greed for speed" of the average uninformed punter won out and even greedier private shareholders knew that it would.

                                  Now many customers of ISPs who ran networks on tight budgets with very little redundancy (Tiscali is a prime example) found themselves in an intolerable situation where downloads would complete in a flash - But, they weren't allowed to download anything!

                                  No-one at the business end seemed to care about the inevitable effects that CBC would have - The more likely scenario was that the attitude that the customer doesn't matter won over the bean counters. The customer is only a cash cow after all and his options are severely limited and will become ever more so as CBC bites across the industry.
                                  The outcomes of the pricing change scam were as predicted:
                                  Contention issues over an ever expanding "peak time" period
                                  The attempted abolition of "heavy" useage services like P2P at a time when the customer has been educated into expecting more, not less from his connection
                                  The upward pressure on lesser prepared ISPs to reduce financial outgoings as, generally, staffing levels were reduced and "outsourcing" became the buzzword. As experienced front line staff were dispensed with from all areas of the business, the networks and associated services such as support began to show serious problems.
                                  To counter this, vaguely worded contracts were suddenly rigidly enforced and then exaggerated until these called heavy users were forced to move on. Many couldn't move on because they were tied to annual contracts. They had to to pay what were comparatively very high costs for minimal services.
                                  Those that are able to move on do so putting even more pressure on the ISPs finances. Rumblings of legal threats by customers permeate forums etc and the ISP reacts by silently letting the most vociferous off their contracts without penalty, thereby incurring further income losses. To counter this, the ISP starts massive advertising campaigns to draw in new green recruits who are unwittingly tied into grossly unfair contracts. Joe Bloggs never reads the small print!
                                  After the temporary relief from the new influx of customers, it's not long before the scenario repeats. Every time this happens, a new momentum is gathered.

                                  Now, those customers who did escape the clutches of ISP1 now suddenly flooded the next "unlimited" ISP and the saga repeated itself with ISP2 and on down the line. The result was a domino effect that gathered a momentum of it's own as it swept through the industry. Soon, ISPs who were hitherto regarded as "responsible" and "customer focused" were becoming severely affected and their reputations damaged.
                                  The industrys safety cushion (LLU etc) was by now looking more like a bed of nails as internal problems compounded, external factors created a downturn in the overall economy and investors became wary.
                                  As the smaller players started to flounder, the sharks started circling and buying out the weakened competition resulting in even less choice for customers and putting even more pressure on the ever dwindling number of remaining reasonable options.

                                  As these "consolidations" (Read liquidations for the most part) continue and accelerate we are starting to see the shark eating sharks sliding out from under their rocks; Murdoch and his ilk forcing UK internet provision down the road of TV programming provision. (In the words of RW - I got 40 channels... Of s**t on my TV to choose from...).

                                  Emerging services such as VoIP, TVoIP, HDTV, the massive integration of the computer into the home and other content rich and therefore bandwidth hungry services will put even more pressure on an industry that is already so overstretched it must now be near the very point of disintegrating completely.

                                  I hope I'm wrong, but I see bleak times ahead.
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                                  Re: What ISP do you have.
                                  « Reply #59 on: March 21, 2006, 02:40:51 PM »
                                  Yeh i agree man that's all common sense. As more people get the internet we are all going to be screwed.

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                                  Re: What ISP do you have.
                                  « Reply #60 on: March 22, 2006, 08:40:10 AM »
                                  Adelphia... When I called tech support, and the internet was screwy they told me that my modem was "fryed." Turns out that wasn't the problem, that the cable box in the garage was screwy. Seems like they'll never tell that they don't know even if they have to waste your time and money. :-/
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                                    « Reply #61 on: March 22, 2006, 03:10:39 PM »
                                    I got the Gold pakage ross. But its really odd because when i go onto the radio it sometimes wont let me telling me i have to go to a gold pakage which im on. Oh and when you call their tech support i know what the awnser will be "restart you pc". Oh dear well i could go on for hours about them (trust me).


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                                    « Reply #62 on: March 23, 2006, 04:48:31 PM »
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                                    No man i dont have that "Fair Usage Policy crap"
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                                    Check the T&Cs that you signed up to Ross. There will be a clause in there somewhere relating to your use of the connection and adverse effects on their network or other users. Every UK ISP has a similar vague and usually well hidden clause lurking somewhere just waiting for their lawyers to resurrect if needs be.

                                    There you go for starters:
                                    "We may cancel your membership immediately without notice where there are serious grounds for doing so, such as where you have breached this Agreement and your breach is in our reasonable discretion, especially serious - for example........ behaviour which affects our ability to provide AOL"

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                                    « Reply #63 on: March 23, 2006, 09:26:40 PM »
                                    I am now on Bellsouth.net with lite DSL.  We like it fine - no complaints since signing on in Nov. 2005.

                                    We were on Earthlink for 5 years & they offer DSL, but we chose to go with Bellsouth.

                                    Prior to that we tried AOL (didn't like it at all)
                                    We tried a bunch of freebies when those were around prior to year 2000

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                                      Re: What ISP do you have.
                                      « Reply #64 on: March 24, 2006, 03:27:47 AM »
                                      Yea Ross here it is.  

                                      http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/fair-usage-policy.html?code=ZZ-NL-11MR

                                      You probably missed it, now ure not with them your probably not botherd, but jsut thought id show you

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                                      « Reply #65 on: March 24, 2006, 04:12:35 PM »
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                                      Yea Ross here it is.  

                                      http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/fair-usage-policy.html?code=ZZ-NL-11MR

                                      You probably missed it, now ur not with them your probably not bothered, but just thought id show you


                                      yeah man its a joke! they sent me a nasty email then "put me with the bad people" i had a broadband speed of 4kbs per second lol So yeah i phoned them and told them to get a grip and im going. "keep the modem there wont be a cancellation charge" Sounds like they were happy to get rid of me.

                                      oh well when a brother wants Scrubs a brother has got to download it lol

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                                      « Reply #66 on: March 24, 2006, 04:19:33 PM »
                                      A mate of mine has just had the debt collectors knocking at his door for the two and a half years subscriptions that he owes Tiscali.
                                      One slight problem though..... I signed him up to Pipex two and a half years ago!
                                      There were no letters or phone calls, just the debt collectors heavy mob. They had a bit of a shock though as his two rotts and six of his biker mates were there.
                                      He has all his receipts etc so I think he's going to have a bit of fun with them and then turn the tables.

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                                      Re: What ISP do you have.
                                      « Reply #67 on: March 25, 2006, 08:20:04 AM »
                                      Tiscali are TOSSBAGS!


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                                        « Reply #68 on: March 26, 2006, 02:34:46 AM »
                                        Hahahahha Ross,  "the bad people". Oh dear.

                                        I never got into scrubs, but oh well.

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                                        « Reply #69 on: March 26, 2006, 03:05:44 AM »
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                                        Hahahahha Ross,  "the bad people". Oh dear.

                                        I never got into scrubs, but oh well.

                                        Well i have over 40 gigs of stuff :o


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                                        « Reply #70 on: March 26, 2006, 06:07:37 PM »
                                        It's bad news for PlusNet users by the look of it! :'(
                                        PlusNet are about to enter into a joint LLU venture with Tiscali.
                                        I see tears before bedtime! ;D

                                        [highlight]El Reg[/highlight] has the lowdown on the deal.
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                                          « Reply #71 on: March 27, 2006, 03:15:06 PM »
                                          hehehe backdated.

                                          Woa Ross is that really something you want to admit on a public forums were your ip is logged?? Id be running if i was you mate ;)
                                           
                                          Well while were admitting i got a bit of £s woth of apps on my pc ;)

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                                          « Reply #72 on: March 27, 2006, 03:26:30 PM »
                                          Late to post but cox.net for 2 1/2 years. Absolutely NO complaints and great service.  ;D

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                                          « Reply #73 on: March 28, 2006, 02:23:11 PM »
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                                          hehehe backdated.

                                          Woa Ross is that really something you want to admit on a public forums were your ip is logged?? Id be running if i was you mate ;)
                                           
                                          Well while were admitting i got a bit of £s woth of apps on my pc ;)


                                          wow crap your right should i delete it lol

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                                            « Reply #74 on: March 28, 2006, 02:46:35 PM »
                                            Hahaha, i think you should mate. Also is it ture that AOL blocks certain websites if they are AOL, ive heard this but they load fine for me.

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                                            « Reply #75 on: March 29, 2006, 07:16:51 AM »
                                            i have never seen that happen before.

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