DVD BURNER

[mohan_raj]

I am new to DVD writing. Pardon my ignorance.

I bought a pack of discs. DVD-R  4.7GB  DVD+RECORDABLE Moserbaer Brand These are the things engraved on top of the disc. I also seeRW engraved.

I loaded the blank and brought in NERO. I selected one Small DVD Video and burnt it. It came very well.

Next I selected another small DVD Video and tried to burn it in the same disc.

I get the message " This disc is not writable"  " Please insert a writable disc"

Disc required for compilation DVD+R/RW,DVD-R/RW

The blank I put gets ejected automatically.

Even though 90% of space is available on the disc I am not able to write any thing more into it.

Kindly help.

[HCS]

How big is the file that you are trying to add on to the DVD and how big are the DVD's? Possibly you should just try another disc.

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[Raptor]

DVD-R is not DVD-RW.

[mohan_raj]

Dear Raptor, thanks.

On my disc it is written RW and beneath it DVD-R. So is it DVD-r or DVD-RW?

My disc capacity is 4.7 GB.  I have written only 123MB. It is not writing more saying disc is not writable. May be it will write , if I change  settings  somewhere. That is where I need help to know what settings should I be changing. Can any one help please.

My DVD writer is Samsung- Writemaster.

[patio]

Once you finalise a write to a disk no matter how much room is left on the disk it becomes un-writable...

[GX1_Man]

Especially if you use a DVD-R. You can't "re-use" it either.

[mohan_raj]

Dear Patio,

Am I to understand that even if RW meaning rewritable is written on top of the disc I cannot write more? If so in which disc can I write more?

Is there any way I can erase or reformat the disc so that next time I write atleast half full and utilise the capacity of the disc. Now it appears paying more and buying a high capacity disc is not so cost effective .

Is there anyway I can modify the settings to read R/RW instead of R? In that case it will not eject.

Alternately can I atleast use the disc as Cd instead of DVD and put audio files or at least some text files and use the rest of the disc as saving device.

I will appreciate help from more compter wizards.

Regards

[GX1_Man]

What software are you using to write to this drive?

Have a read:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+dvd-rw+works

[mohan_raj]

Dear GX1_Man,

Thanks a lot for guiding me to software angle. I feel I may have a solution there.

Let me take a little time to wade through. I will get back later.

Thanks once again for the troubles you have taken

Mohan Raj

[mohan_raj]

Dear DX1_Man,

THe soft ware I am using is the one supplied by Samsung along with the DVD writer.

It says " SAMSUNG DVD WRITER"

Nero Express 6[ver.6.6.0.19b]

[BG68-01147A REV.00]

[GX1_Man]

That should work very nicely as burning software. Just remember to use a CD/DVD as a "big floppy drive" you have to have packet writing of some form like InCD, etc.

If you are just copying data one time to a disc you don't even need this. Just burn with Nero.

Personally I don't use InCD, but that's just me.

[mohan_raj]

Thanks again GX1_Man, But the software angle did not help.

In the meanwhile I went to the web site of the disc manufacturer, Moser Bear. He clearly states that if I have finalized the first run on the disc no further addition is possible. May be that is the way the disc manufacturer increases his sale of discs!

Surely we should find a way to crack this locking done on the disc by making a software programme and preventing the DVD writer from locking the disc after the first writing.

For now , I give up . I have learnt the hard way about the limitations imposed on these costly blanks by vested interests.

As moderator may be you can take it up in the proper forum and get this lacuna rectified.

Thanks again for your time GX1_Man!

[GX1_Man]

It's not a sales strategy. It is a technology issue. When you finalize ANY disk you can not write to it further. That is what finalize is all about - it's final.

[mohan_raj]

Dear GX1_Man,

I entirely agree with you , if I finalized the disc myself.

 But in this case it got finalized by default. I only wish that the default setting was the other way viz., only those who want to deliberatly foreclose the disc by 'finalizing' for whatever reason should have to live with that decision. They coluld even put an alert pop up.

In my case I did not even know that the default setting is automatically finalising. I lost this way more than one disc , not knowing better. That is why I feel that the disc manufacturer has taken advantage of my ignorance.

Secondly, assuming for argument sake,  disc is finalised by some software technology issue, if I change my mind, why not I have some technology to reverse the decision. Afterall one can always change his mind. { though in my case that is not it}.

So, will you agree with me that I have a point to make towards improvong this irrevocably locking technology. Even if I have to pay a penalty of say losing a GB of space or more  if I decide to unlock I would still want to consider the improvement.

We lock our car or house or any thing at all ,only to unlock later. Why not same principle for the disc also!!!!! Why this finality???

Do you think as moderator you can do something to help others like me , now that you are seized of the issue.

Thanks for the prompt replies.

[patio]

Copy the files from the DVD back to the hard drive...erase the re-writable and re-do the project...

patio.  8-)

[GX1_Man]

Do you think as moderator you can do something to help others like me , now that you are seized of the issue.

OK. Everyone be careful on your "Finalize the Disk" settings.

How's that?

[mohan_raj]

Thanks Patio,

I will do as you say and get back to you with the result.

Incidentally even though I see on the blank the bold RW engraved ,it is only DVD+Recordable[this is what is engraved in small letters below the bold RW].

Would your advice hold good if my disc is DVD+R only?

[mohan_raj]

I quote:
 http://www.moserbaer.com/products_faqs.asp#b4

""does finalizing (and closing and fixating) do?
A disc that you can add data to is "open". All data is written into the current session. When you have finished writing, you close the session. If you want to make a multi-session disc, you open a new session at the same time. If you don't open a new session then, you can't open one later, which means that it's impossible to add more data to the CD-R. The entire disc is considered "closed".

The process of changing a session from "open" to "closed" is called "finalizing", "fixating", or just plain "closing" the session. When you close the last session, you have finalized, fixated, or closed the disc.""

http://www.moserbaer.com/products_faqs.asp#b4

I am giving above the FAQ answer relevent to the issue taken from the URLhttp://www.moserbaer.com/products_faqs.asp#b4 of the manufacturer MOSERBAER.


Can the bosses of this Forum take up with such manufacturers to not have such "FINALITY" and lose the rest of the disc and go for buying the next one so that his sales multiplies. The manufactures should and must make a provision to reverse the  "FINALITY" if the user desires to, whether the user 'finalises' intentionally or inadvertantly.

We had a locking device in floppy discs to prevent erasures. We could unlock it if we wanted. Why this finality for these discs? Any locking method -mechanical or softwarewise should be unlockable. What would you all say?

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[GX1_Man]

I would say http://forums.techarena.in/

The manufactures [highlight]should and must [/highlight]make a provision to reverse the  "FINALITY" if the user desires to

Who made that up? That can be done with the burning software anyway. What are you using to burn with?

[patio]

Would your advice hold good if my disc is DVD+R only?  

No CD/DVD R's cannot be erased and re-written.

[mohan_raj]

Dear GX1_Man,

""Everyone be careful on your "Finalize the Disk" settings""

Good Idea. But every user of the disc  should get this caution every time he uses.

How to ensure that unless this caution springs up just before you press the button to BURN.

Can you do something about it?

[patio]

Dear GX1_Man,

""Everyone be careful on your "Finalize the Disk" settings""

Good Idea. But every user of the disc  should get this caution every time he uses.

How to ensure that unless this caution springs up just before you press the button to BURN.

Can you do something about it?

It's all part of the learning process...after you have made a collection of coasters you eventually do the steps properly and all is good in the DVD world.

[mohan_raj]

AMEN!