Mozilla Thunderbird

[Eredell]

Just got Thunderbird yesterday, but I'm having some troubles getting it going. I create a new account, and so on, but when I click "recieve mail" to test if I have any Inbox messages I get "Connection timed out".
I've heard there are alot of possible reasons for this.

If this helps any:

Im currenty trying with a Yahoo! account.
My connection to the internet is by cable.

[Calum]

Thunderbird is awesome.
Good choice.
As for your problem - how is Thunderbird currently set up?

[Eredell]

Thanks for the reply-


Sorry, but what are you referring to when you say "set up?"  :-/

[Calum]

Sorry.
How did you configure it?
When you opened T-Bird for the first time it should have given you a screen to set up your email account(s).
How did you set it up there?
I'll have a look and see if I can find the right info for servers etc.

[Eredell]

Ahh, alright.

Well I did follow what it said to at http://opensourcearticles.com/articles/thunderbird_15/english/part_01 , pretty much just followed what it asked.

[Calum]

Did you check part 10, about Gmail and Yahoo addresses?

[Eredell]

No I didn't   I guess I skipped over that. I'll go read it now, thanks man!  

[patio]

A gmail account will run directly thru TBird...however the last i heard yahooligans will not without an add on third party software...do a search for YPops.

patio.  8-)

p.s. Welcome to Thunderbird !

[Calum]

No problem, it was quite easy to miss.
Hope it helps you out.

[Calum]

A gmail account will run directly thru TBird...however the last i heard yahooligans will not without an add on third party software...do a search for YPops.

patio.  8-)

p.s. Welcome to Thunderbird !

YPops is mentioned in the article I linked to, with a link to d/l it.

[Eredell]

Alright got Ypops d/l, followed the guide, but when I click "Get Mail" at the end it comes up with "Could not connect to server localhost; the connection was refused."

[WillyW]

Sorry.
How did you configure it?
When you opened T-Bird for the first time it should have given you a screen to set up your email account(s).
How did you set it up there?
I'll have a look and see if I can find the right info for servers etc.

http://webmail.mozdev.org/


Specifically:
http://webmail.mozdev.org/serversettings.html


http://webmail.mozdev.org/setup.html
is very much step-by-step .    
Not knocking the page you are already using,  I found it too when looking around.    
But I just used this page, followed along,  and naturally goofed.      When I went back, and did exactly what it said to do,   it then worked fine.... with a Yahoo email account.

[Eredell]

Wait! Fixed the problem. The guide says to change the port to 111, but looking into YPops, I found it wants 110, not 111. Well that solved the Thunderbird problem! Thanks for the help guys!

[Calum]

Fair enough.
Have a look at those sites as well then, Eredell.
Nice catch WillyW.

[WillyW]

Alright got Ypops d/l, followed the guide, but when I click "Get Mail" at the end it comes up with "Could not connect to server localhost; the connection was refused."

Fwiw,  I have not tried ypops.

I used the webmail extensions from http://webmail.mozdev.org/

[Calum]

Wait! Fixed the problem. The guide says to change the port to 111, but looking into YPops, I found it wants 110, not 111. Well that solved the Thunderbird problem! Thanks for the help guys!

Cool, glad you're fixed up.  I posted the post below your post (confusing) before I saw that post.

[Eredell]

Fair enough.
Have a look at those sites as well then, Eredell.
Nice catch WillyW.

 Sure will. Thanks for the help

[Calum]

Fair enough.
Have a look at those sites as well then, Eredell.
Nice catch WillyW.

 Sure will. Thanks for the help

You're welcome, for whatever assistance I could provide.
BTW, Thunderbird is awesome.

[WillyW]

Wait! Fixed the problem. The guide says to change the port to 111, but looking into YPops, I found it wants 110, not 111. Well that solved the Thunderbird problem! Thanks for the help guys!

You've already tested it?...  sending and receiving?

If so, and it works fine -     Excellent!

Glad you got it going.


Now....  you have a lot of stuff to play with, if you want to.     Extensions, skins, etc., etc.       I haven't explored much of that stuff myself, but it is there if you want to play with it.

Don't forget:

Read this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keep_it_working_%28Thunderbird%29
 
At least bookmark this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
 
Read this too:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders

http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/forums
Bookmark that.
 
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq
Bookmark that.

[Calum]

Wait! Fixed the problem. The guide says to change the port to 111, but looking into YPops, I found it wants 110, not 111. Well that solved the Thunderbird problem! Thanks for the help guys!

You've already tested it?...  sending and receiving?

If so, and it works fine -     Excellent!

Glad you got it going.


Now....  you have a lot of stuff to play with, if you want to.     Extensions, skins, etc., etc.       I haven't explored much of that stuff myself, but it is there if you want to play with it.

Don't forget:

Read this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keep_it_working_%28Thunderbird%29
 
At least bookmark this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
 
Read this too:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders

http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/forums
Bookmark that.
 
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq
Bookmark that.

Nice list of sites there.
I would check them out myself, but unfortunately I don't use T-Bird any more

[WillyW]

Nice list of sites there.
I would check them out myself, but unfortunately I don't use T-Bird any more

You found something else you like better?

c'mon ...  tell us.    

[Calum]

Nice list of sites there.
I would check them out myself, but unfortunately I don't use T-Bird any more

You found something else you like better?

c'mon ...  tell us.    

No, there's nothing better than T-Bird for email.
It got a bit confusing, with Thunderbird, Portable Thunderbird and standard Gmail, remembering which emails were which after they all finished with them was a nightmare.
It got very confusing, so I ditched Thunderbird.
When I get better organised I'll bring it back.

[WillyW]

No, there's nothing better than T-Bird for email.
It got a bit confusing, with Thunderbird, Portable Thunderbird and standard Gmail, remembering which emails were which after they all finished with them was a nightmare.
It got very confusing, so I ditched Thunderbird.
When I get better organised I'll bring it back.

What is Portable Thunderbird?


Regarding gmail -  I don't use it often,  but when I do, I just use Thunderbird to check it.




Regarding which emails were which:   not sure what you mean.    
Unless you used the option for   "local folders".  

When I realized how it worked,  I also realized it was not something that I like.
It puts all your emails in one big folder.   No matter if they are incoming from gmail, hotmail,  private isp, yahoo,  whatever.

I guess some folks might like this.   I didn't.    So...  I set up Thunderbird to make seperate folders for each email account.   Each with their own inbox, outbox, junk box, etc. etc.

Is the "local folders" thing what you did?

[patio]

Set up seperate user accounts rather than using the global inbox options...works for me and i can track where the carp is coming from.

[patio]

Gads Willy...we're typing on top of each other    

[WillyW]

Set up seperate user accounts rather than using the global inbox options...works for me and i can track where the carp is coming from.

Bingo!


Nice to hear about your      carp      too.

How are your ducks?
Oh ... wait.... that's a different thread.
 

[WillyW]

Gads Willy...we're typing on top of each other    

Let's not get personal.

 

[Calum]

No, there's nothing better than T-Bird for email.
It got a bit confusing, with Thunderbird, Portable Thunderbird and standard Gmail, remembering which emails were which after they all finished with them was a nightmare.
It got very confusing, so I ditched Thunderbird.
When I get better organised I'll bring it back.

What is Portable Thunderbird?

Regarding gmail -  I don't use it often,  but when I do, I just use Thunderbird to check it.




Regarding which emails were which:   not sure what you mean.    
Unless you used the option for   "local folders".  

When I realized how it worked,  I also realized it was not something that I like.
It puts all your emails in one big folder.   No matter if they are incoming from gmail, hotmail,  private isp, yahoo,  whatever.

I guess some folks might like this.   I didn't.    So...  I set up Thunderbird to make seperate folders for each email account.   Each with their own inbox, outbox, junk box, etc. etc.

Is the "local folders" thing what you did?

Portable Thunderbird can be found here.
It's a portable version of Thunderbird.
The problem was that Gmail, T-Bird and Portable T-Bird didn't mark mails as read for each other, so I had 6 new emails on one, 3 on another and 1 on the other, and I didn't know what was going on.
If that makes sense?

[WillyW]

What is Portable Thunderbird?

Regarding gmail -  I don't use it often,  but when I do, I just use Thunderbird to check it.


Regarding which emails were which:   not sure what you mean.    
Unless you used the option for   "local folders".  

When I realized how it worked,  I also realized it was not something that I like.
It puts all your emails in one big folder.   No matter if they are incoming from gmail, hotmail,  private isp, yahoo,  whatever.

I guess some folks might like this.   I didn't.    So...  I set up Thunderbird to make seperate folders for each email account.   Each with their own inbox, outbox, junk box, etc. etc.

Is the "local folders" thing what you did?

Portable Thunderbird can be found here.
It's a portable version of Thunderbird.
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hmm..  interesting concept.
But, off the top of my head,  what's the difference between that, and the 'regular' app installed on your usb drive?

The problem was that Gmail, T-Bird and Portable T-Bird didn't mark mails as read for each other, so I had 6 new emails on one, 3 on another and 1 on the other, and I didn't know what was going on.
If that makes sense?

Let me see if I'm with you:
You'd check your mail with PTB, and pick up new mail.
Later, you'd check your mail with TB, and it would get picked up again, plus any more new mail that had arrived.

Is that an example?

And I assume that you didn't want to have your mail deleted from the server upon download,  right?

hmm...  interesting.    Since I don't have any snazzy portable device like that, I've never had to figure out what would work best.  

As far as Gmail goes,  I simply don't use their web interface.   'Click' in Thunderbird, and its done.

[patio]

It shouldn't behave this way...i have numerous accounts setup in TBird that don't duplicate themselves.

Of course if you are running portable TBird it's not gonna know if you have retrieved mail in your regular TBird account...i don't think there is any e-mail app that can know what the other is doing.

Clear as mud yet ? ?

patio.  8-)

[Calum]

That's pretty much what I meant, yeah.
The difference between PTB and TB is that PTB leaves no trace on the host machine, check out that site for more about portable apps and the differences.
I don't use Gmail's web interface, it's Google Talk that picks it up and annoys me with popups.

Clear as mud yet ? ?

Almost.

[patio]

Been using qute a few portable apps for some time now including the Mozilla apps...it's amazing that now when i go to a customer's on service call i have 2 thumb drives on my keychain.

Not so long ago it was an aluminum oversized briefcase that contained all my tools...

I love progress ! !

[Calum]

Portable apps are awesome.
I mainly use them at school, otherwise I'd be forced to use IE.
They're also pretty useful at school because there are some programs I have which don't have an equivalent on the school system, so I can do things I otherwise wouldn't be able to do.