Any Suggestions for a HTML Program?

[Chilly]

Hi, I am new to the forums and I would like to make webpages for fun I guess, and I would like to know if anyone has a suggestion about any free HTML editor(s), because there is to much code in notepad for me to work with.

[Comp Guy]

I use Notepad++. It's a really cool little tool.

[WillyW]

Hi, I am new to the forums and I would like to make webpages for fun I guess, and I would like to know if anyone has a suggestion about any free HTML editor(s), because there is to much code in notepad for me to work with.

Check out:
http://www.nvu.com/index.php

NVU is free.

You might like to also see:
http://www.nvu.com/websitehelp.php
as there are links on that page to tutorials, etc.


I hope some others comment on NVU here.      I'm new at this too.    Similar to yourself,  I'm just playing around.     So I'm not an experienced person to answer your question.   
I too would like to know if I've found a good tool for a beginner/learner.


So far, I've had fun with it  ( I just don't know if there is something easier/better out there for us ).       Doing something simple with HTML isn't too difficult.    The key word here is "simple".   <g>
I'm stumbling and fumbling with CSS though.

[CBMatt]

I'm partial to HTML-Kit.  It's simple, but I like it.

[soybean]

I've spent a little time with Nvu and I think it's a good tool for creating web pages.  The other two programs mentioned also look good.  Which is best?  I don't know. 

And, these are not the only ones.  Download.com has 222 programs in their HTML editors category. 

[WillyW]

I've spent a little time with Nvu and I think it's a good tool for creating web pages. 

Thanks for commenting.      That's telling me that it is not a waste of time. 

  Download.com has 222 programs in their HTML editors category. 

Somewhere I read a definition, and it seemed to differentiate between HTML editors and What You See Is What You Get editors.   
Apparently NVU is a WYSIWYG editor.
I don't know if this is a Good Thing or a Bad Thing.    Just wanted to mention it for anyone reading along.

[CBMatt]

I don't know if this is a Good Thing or a Bad Thing.    Just wanted to mention it for anyone reading along.

It's all just a matter of opinion.  I personally don't like WYSIWYG, but it works for some people.

[Comp Guy]

I personally don't like WYSIWYG, but it works for some people.

Me either. But I do get stuck sometimes coding it all myself.

[CBMatt]

See, coding it myself is how I started and how I first learned how to do anything, so it's always been my preferred method.

[Comp Guy]

See, coding it myself is how I started and how I first learned how to do anything, so it's always been my preferred method.

Yes, it's how I started too, and how I've been doing it all so far. And I do perfer that method over WYSIWYG. But I have having a little trouble now, so I'm trying the other method to get back on track.

[Calum]

I like a bit of both.
I use DreeamWeaver myself, and I use both WYSIWYG and the code views to achieve what I want.
I wouldn't feel comfortable just coding or just WYSIWYG editing.

BTW, I have used Nvu, but some people have said that it can be hard to learn and doesn't always produce the best results, or the results you want.
There is a mod of Nvu somewhere, which is the same but with some bugs fixed.

[Chilly]

Thanks for your help guys I'll give it a try on the programs you guys suggested, Thanks!

[WillyW]

I like a bit of both.
I use DreeamWeaver myself, and I use both WYSIWYG and the code views to achieve what I want.
I wouldn't feel comfortable just coding or just WYSIWYG editing.

Bear with me,  this is new territory for me.   

NVU has four modes.     Normal, HTML tags, source, and preview.
I think - when you say "code views" -  that you are referring to either the HTML tags view or source view.   
Or is it both?

I think I understand what you fellows are saying, because I've found myself a few times flipping back and forth among the different views -  sometimes one is better for whatever reason.

I found an extension too.    Lauchy.
http://gemal.dk/mozilla/launchy.html

I like it.   Can also be installed in Thunderbird and Firefox.

BTW, I have used Nvu, but some people have said that it can be hard to learn

oh?     I'd like to hear more,  if you can remember it.

And how about your personal experience with it? ...  was NVU at least ok, if not top notch?

and doesn't always produce the best results, or the results you want.
There is a mod of Nvu somewhere, which is the same but with some bugs fixed.

If you happen across a link for that,  please post.



About Dreamweaver:    Isn't that an expensive commercial product only?

[WillyW]

Thanks for your help guys I'll give it a try on the programs you guys suggested, Thanks!

Excellent.   

Come back and share with us whatever you discover.

[Calum]

NVU has four modes.     Normal, HTML tags, source, and preview.
I think - when you say "code views" -  that you are referring to either the HTML tags view or source view.   
Or is it both?

Both, I believe.
Dreamweaver has 3 views - code, split and design.
Code is similar to Nvu's source view, split is source and design.
And Nvu's HTML tags view is very different, pretty useful though.

I found an extension too.    Launchy.

Very useful.
I may install that, if I feel I need it in the future.

oh?     I'd like to hear more,  if you can remember it.

And how about your personal experience with it? ...  was NVU at least ok, if not top notch?

If I find the link again, I'll post it.
And I found Nvu OK, but a little hard to get into.
Like all complicated programs, there is a learning curve, but I didn't find the documentation very helpful.
Maybe it was just me.
I'm sure it would be an acceptable solution to design web pages if you persevere with it.

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and doesn't always produce the best results, or the results you want.
There is a mod of Nvu somewhere, which is the same but with some bugs fixed.

If you happen across a link for that,  please post.

Will do.

About Dreamweaver:    Isn't that an expensive commercial product only?

Yes.
I was just saying, that's what I use.
I know the topic is about free ones.
But, I have found DreamWeaver to be easily the best I have used (out of Notepad, Nvu, and Frontpage XP/2003).
It's not worth the cash if you only want to make we pages for fun, but it is a great program.

[WillyW]

...
And Nvu's HTML tags view is very different, pretty useful though.

I'm a bit confused by it,  but I figured that was just me.

...
Like all complicated programs, there is a learning curve, but I didn't find the documentation very helpful.

Which reminds me.  I forgot to mention, for anyone else reading along,  -  there is also an extension that can be downloaded and installed in NVU,  named  NVU Tutorial for Beginners.

About Dreamweaver:    Isn't that an expensive commercial product only?

Yes.

Wasn't sure.   

...
But, I have found DreamWeaver to be easily the best I have used (out of Notepad, Nvu, and Frontpage XP/2003).
It's not worth the cash if you only want to make we pages for fun, but it is a great program.

Since you have used both,  those last couple of sentences are meaningful.
Thanks for the comparison and opinion.

[michaewlewis]

If you use linux, try Quanta. It's an awesome editor (not just for HTML either) and it has drop down menus to complete your tags and options to insert code for you.
But I guess if you did use linux, you wouldn't be asking about html editors now would you?.

[jamiet17]

Chilly

i think dreamweaver is one of the best frontpage is ok but doesnt bet dreamweaver 8 its good u should try it out.

[signedon]

I second the NVU-- http://www.nvu.com/websitehelp.php-- suggestion.

It's great because it has both design view and code view. You can do WYSIWYG or handcode with this program. There's even NVU portable if you'd like to take the application around with you on a USB flash drive.

[Calum]

Chilly

i think dreamweaver is one of the best frontpage is ok but doesnt bet dreamweaver 8 its good u should try it out.

But it costs lots of money.
The poster specifically said free.