thanks for the reply! I read the links, my apologies, my card turns out to be a 9700AIW series. This is what it looks like:
![](http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.03/images/Pl_Test_74_2b.jpg)
I'm not sure if this uses the dongle:
![](http://www.ascully.com/images/reviews/atiradeon9600xtaiw/wires.jpg)
like the 9600 does. It didn't come with one, and also it has a s-video in and s-video out right on the card. The 9600 just had the vga out and s-video in that this dongle came with:
Mine did come with one of these, but that only plugs into the s-video in, not the s-video out.
Hope that's not too confusing. My card looks just like this:
![](http://www.xicomputer.com/products/prodimages/ATI-AIW9800.jpg)
only vga instead of dvi. Both s-video (in and out) are identical looking. As you can see niether are standard s-video. I know the s-video in uses that purple thing, but not sure what the out uses.