with quotes it opens the program but gives nothing as a listed commands.
I would have thought that since there is a list of start (/?) commands there would have been a list of parameters for the program it's self.
maybe i'm just flogging a dead horse.
i'm gonna have to wait for the company that wrote the program to get back to me. They probley already have but i'm not working till wednesday and the webmail server at the office seems to be down at the mo.
I'll let you all know what happens, but thanks very much for the time and effort that you've given me.
thanks again.
blastman