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    Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
    « on: June 26, 2007, 07:42:26 AM »
    I had a problem with my explorer see Here
    and Here
    Now I reformatted the C: drive and eventually I had to format ALL drives.
    The problem stayed away for a day but after I installed the SP2 and some other updates I wasn't able to get to the properties of a drive.
    I think it is an hardware problem but that doesn't make any sense?!
    It is the only problem.
    My previous harddrive crashed that make sense but this?!
    Can it be because it is not the original drive? It worked fine for a 6months.
    I don't know what else I can do.
    Can someone solve this or at least explain why this is happening.

    Thanks in advance

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    « Last Edit: June 26, 2007, 09:27:04 AM by Jonas Wauters »

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    Re: Property problem keep returning even after reformatting!
    « Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 08:07:32 AM »
    I wasn't able to get to the properties of a drive.
    Can you open My Computer?  See your hard drives there?  If you right click on a drive, is Properties an option?

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      Re: Property problem keep returning even after reformatting!
      « Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 08:30:49 AM »
      I can open my computer and I can see the harddrives but I can't right click on them because the it freeses.
      same with using the file tap methode.

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      Re: Property problem keep returning even after reformatting!
      « Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 08:33:02 AM »
      same with using the file tap methode.
      ???  What's that?

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        Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
        « Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 09:28:52 AM »
        (Edit:This is a file tap (not the one of windows explorer but this is an example))

        Sorry for the bad explanation.

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        Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
        « Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 09:59:46 AM »
        Well, the image you posted is from Internet Explorer, not My Computer.  You wouldn't be able to view hard drive properties from there.

        Since you've just formatted and installed Windows, how does Device Manager look?  Any yellow triangles or red X's? 

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          Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
          « Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 10:41:01 AM »
          there are two kinds of explorer in windows.

          internet explorer  is a browser platform/software for internet use

          windows explorer which is for looking at the drives/software/ anything and everything in your computer.

          you should be able to see all installed harddrives / cd  / dvd drives and floppy usb drives  in windows explorer

          click start/ then All Programs/ then  Accessories / then Windows Explorer
          which is the same as
          click start / then My Computer  which is another microsoft usage name for windows explorer
          Please give as much information regarding the Specification and components of your computer and a note about what you were doing when the problem arose and any other relevant thing that you think may help.

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            Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
            « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 11:07:07 AM »
            No this was just as an example of a file tap.
            I know I have to open the drive properties in the windows explorer.
            And I'm handling the yellow question marks of device manager but that won't be a problem I did it before sow why should I be able to do it now.
            I'm quite sure it is impossible to heal it but I just want to know witch device is causing the problem.

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            Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
            « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 11:12:37 AM »
            Well, I'd concentrate on fixing all the problems in Device Manager and then see where you stand.  You may need to go back and start over with formatting and installing Windows.

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              Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
              « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 01:41:44 PM »
              The only question mark in the device manager is of my webcam but that will be fixed soon.
              I don't believe that reformatting will solve this.
              Because it didn't in the first place.

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              Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
              « Reply #10 on: June 26, 2007, 02:38:21 PM »
              After formatting and re-installing did you re-install the MBoard drivers ? ?

              If so go to Device Manager and expand  IDE/Atapi Controllers...
              Select Primary IDE controller, right click it and select remove...ignore the warning and re-boot.

              When the machine finishes booting open My Computer and right clik on C:...and see if it's any better.
              " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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                Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                « Reply #11 on: June 27, 2007, 03:38:35 AM »
                Its called primairy IDE channel but it is the second of my list is this the one?

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                « Reply #12 on: June 27, 2007, 03:50:49 AM »
                What is the first on the list? What is the whole list?

                What does "file tap" mean?

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                  Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                  « Reply #13 on: June 27, 2007, 04:09:47 AM »
                  For the file tap recheck the topic I've edit some comment.
                  This is the whole list:
                  I still have on driver left but I 'll find that eventually. (the one of the webcam)

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                  Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                  « Reply #14 on: June 27, 2007, 04:15:06 AM »
                  so a "tap" is a menu?

                  Is your hard drive an IDE or a SATA?

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                    Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                    « Reply #15 on: June 27, 2007, 04:19:01 AM »
                    Yes sorry for my bad English.
                    Ans I don't know what my hard drive is how can I check that?

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                    Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                    « Reply #16 on: June 27, 2007, 04:23:12 AM »
                    If the cable looks like this it is IDE



                    If it looks like this it is SATA




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                      Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                      « Reply #17 on: June 27, 2007, 04:58:41 AM »
                      I don't know I have a laptop so I can't really take a look.

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                      Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                      « Reply #18 on: June 27, 2007, 05:00:16 AM »
                      you should have told us that before  ::)

                      What happens if you expand the "disk drives" item?


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                        Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                        « Reply #19 on: June 27, 2007, 06:26:46 AM »
                        I have told you; you can see that on the side of my posts.


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                        « Reply #20 on: June 27, 2007, 06:32:50 AM »
                        And that means what exactly?

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                          Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                          « Reply #21 on: June 27, 2007, 07:21:38 AM »
                          I have edited my other post because it didn't make any sense.
                          And I corrected the URL of the image.
                          At the image you can see that I've installed the last driver to.

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                            Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                            « Reply #22 on: June 27, 2007, 08:25:30 AM »
                            After formatting and re-installing did you re-install the MBoard drivers ? ?

                            If so go to Device Manager and expand  IDE/Atapi Controllers...
                            Select Primary IDE controller, right click it and select remove...ignore the warning and re-boot.

                            When the machine finishes booting open My Computer and right clik on C:...and see if it's any better.
                            Witch is it?
                            Primairy ID channel?

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                              Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                              « Reply #23 on: June 27, 2007, 09:29:20 AM »
                              Can it do any harm by just trying?

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                              Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                              « Reply #24 on: June 27, 2007, 09:31:42 AM »
                              No it can't.

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                                Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                                « Reply #25 on: June 27, 2007, 09:33:20 AM »
                                It will automatically reinstall after reboot or do I have to do it?

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                                « Reply #26 on: June 27, 2007, 09:33:45 AM »
                                automatically

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                                Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                                « Reply #27 on: June 27, 2007, 09:36:08 AM »
                                I got lost in this thread.  I don't even know what you guys are talking about anymore.  automatically reinstall what?

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                                « Reply #28 on: June 27, 2007, 09:43:55 AM »
                                I got lost in this thread.  I don't even know what you guys are talking about anymore.  automatically reinstall what?

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                                Select Primary IDE controller, right click it and select remove...ignore the warning and re-boot.


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                                  « Reply #29 on: June 27, 2007, 10:00:27 AM »
                                  Alright I uninstalled Primairy IDE chanel and ....
                                  It didn't work.
                                  What about trying the otherones?

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                                  « Reply #30 on: June 27, 2007, 10:04:59 AM »
                                  Why don't you just take your laptop to a repair shop? You're going to eventually, you could save some time.


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                                    « Reply #31 on: June 27, 2007, 10:14:21 AM »
                                    Do you know how much it cost i around here I have to pay 75euro that's about $80 for each hour. Sow I think that spending my time would be a better idea. besides I learn along with it.(You don't have to help me if you don't want to its completely your decision.)

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                                    « Reply #32 on: June 27, 2007, 10:32:41 AM »
                                    Well, my prediction is that you have a hardware problem. maybe a loose IDE cable, maybe a hard drive defect, maybe a motherboard fault. All the tinkering with settings in the world will not fix those things.


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                                      « Reply #33 on: June 27, 2007, 10:41:32 AM »
                                      Ok I think that I have no other option.

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                                      « Reply #34 on: June 27, 2007, 10:44:44 AM »
                                      That's the trouble with laptops, they are so hard to fix, that's why I would never have one just to replace a desktop computer.

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                                        Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                                        « Reply #35 on: June 30, 2007, 01:22:06 PM »
                                        I guess your right about the cable I'm getting more and more problems how look like a default of the cable.
                                        Is there any program witch can test the cable?
                                        I'm afraid if it is the cable that I'll have to buy an other laptop because it is attached to the motherboard isn't it?

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                                        « Reply #36 on: June 30, 2007, 01:44:19 PM »
                                        Is there any program witch can test the cable?

                                        Not that I know of

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                                        I'm afraid if it is the cable that I'll have to buy an other laptop because it is attached to the motherboard isn't it?

                                        Not usually

                                        Cost about 10 euros




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                                          Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                                          « Reply #37 on: July 02, 2007, 02:45:25 PM »
                                          Can it be an other problem that costs much more?
                                          Because I'm thinking of buying a new laptop.
                                          Because he is already 5 years old.
                                          And I don't want to spend to much money on the one I have now.
                                          And it would cost me 75euro just to check what is wrong.

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                                          « Reply #38 on: July 02, 2007, 03:35:41 PM »
                                          Spend 75 € on a 5 year old laptop which is known to be unhealthy... bad idea... if you have the money... get a new one!




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                                            Re: Property problem keeps returning even after reformatting!
                                            « Reply #39 on: July 03, 2007, 05:20:17 AM »
                                            That was the conclusion I had sow as long as this computer can hold (that won't be for long I guess) I will wait to buy a new one.
                                            Can you give me some advice for a new laptop?
                                            I'll start a new topic for that.
                                            Thanks for all the help!

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                                              « Reply #40 on: July 05, 2007, 02:12:08 PM »
                                              I took a look at my old Tecra 8100 and it had the same hardrive only smaller capacety.
                                              I've noticed that the cable hwo is attached to the harddrive is directly connected to the motherboard.
                                              Sow I done with this computer.
                                              I had hoped I could solve this myself but he.


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