Thanks for trying. I had guests who may have used some of those programs. I did block all the unknown programs which were trying to get in. I use Zone Alarm to do this. Also this a.m. I used House Call a free program from Trend Micro and found I had a trojan called sandbox (I think), I also use a virus protection and a spam blocker. I also got rid of cursor comet. It certainly is painful to keep up with all these intrusions.