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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2007, 02:33:39 PM »
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I see no reason not to leave them on the server
I have it set, as he does, now.
It's a matter of choice. Actually, I never go to web to dig in my messages. I see no reason.

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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2007, 02:39:07 PM »
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Perhaps I didn't understand what you were trying to accomplish.....
What sometimes happens, some folders in TB got corrupted, and the easiest way to correct it, is to delete "Inbox" folder in Windows Explorer.
I asked him also (as you can read in my previous post) how full his Inbox was, because that's another reason his Inbox may not be working correctly.
Thirdly, you are right about compacting...I have it set to "Automatic".
I hope, this clears any confusion.

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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2007, 02:49:16 PM »
dairyman:

If you have not already found and read it,  here is a good article to read:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keep_it_working_%28Thunderbird%29

On that page is a link to:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders
and it is good reading too.

Attached is a screen cap of mine.   I like to be reminded, else I'd probably forget!

Also, there are extensive forums for Thunderbird.  Their site is running slow for some reason right now.  That just started.  Could be working on it.   I was going to give you the link to the main Thunderbird forum start page.
But you can find it easily with Google.
Using the Search function there, you are likely to find more info on your topic.




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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2007, 02:53:07 PM »
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I see no reason not to leave them on the server
I have it set, as he does, now.

Does it work as it should?   :)

Got another email account somewhere?....  send yourself some test emails...  experiment with it. 
Let us know.


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It's a matter of choice. Actually, I never go to web to dig in my messages. I see no reason.

I too rarely ever use the web interface.    But, since I can config it this way.... why not?   :)       It might come in handy some day. 
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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2007, 02:55:54 PM »

What sometimes happens, some folders in TB got corrupted,

I have never had that experience.

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and the easiest way to correct it, is to delete "Inbox" folder in Windows Explorer.
I asked him also (as you can read in my previous post) how full his Inbox was, because that's another reason his Inbox may not be working correctly.

Right.  I saw.   That's why I explained my method -  it seemed easier.

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Thirdly, you are right about compacting...I have it set to "Automatic".
I hope, this clears any confusion.

We were posting at the same time.  :)        I saw the warning that somebody had posted while I was composing,  but I overrode it.
In it, above,  I mentioned compacting, where to go to read all about it,
and included a screen cap.


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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2007, 03:03:07 PM »

dairyman:

Something just came to mind.   I've been overlooking it this whole time!


... But now there is a problem. I deleted I message from the Thunderbird program so I can "reclaim" my Inbox. I went to to the Hotmail (which is now Winblows Live Mail) and the messages were still there.

You said that you:
Deleted message from T-Bird.
Went to Hotmail.
deleted message was still there.

You didn't say that you:
Deleted message from T-Bird.
Ran 'Get Mail' with T-Bird on that Hotmail account again.
Went to Hotmail with browser.
deleted message was still there.

You've got to run a 'Get Mail' so that T-Bird can get into your Hotmail account and delete the messages it is supposed to delete.

Also note:   When you make changes to these settings within the setup of T-Bird,  I'm not sure that they will take effect on messages already on your Hotmail account.   In other words, there is a chance that it might appear to behave strangely, until you really think about it.   
So when you are making config changes, testing, etc.,   I suggest you always test with new messages. 





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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2007, 03:11:08 PM »
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Got another email account somewhere?....  send yourself some test emails...  experiment with it.
I don't want to sound paternalistic, but I've been with Mozilla/Netscape, since early '90s (Mosaic, it was called, then), and I just know.

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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2007, 03:27:37 PM »
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Got another email account somewhere?....  send yourself some test emails...  experiment with it.
I don't want to sound paternalistic,

Paternalistic?  ??            towards me?   ;D ;D    that's so preposterous that I'm laughing.   

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but I've been with Mozilla/Netscape, since early '90s (Mosaic, it was called, then), and I just know.

you just know....  What? 





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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2007, 06:12:45 PM »

Where?  which Inbox?     on the Hotmail server that you can view via the web?
Or within T-Bird?


Within the Hotmail server I can view via the web.

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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2007, 06:45:43 PM »
This is not a Thunderbird issue...this is an issue where the user doesn't understand what an e-mail client can and cannot do with a web-based e-mail account.
Simple as that.
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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2007, 07:03:58 PM »
Well there is an easier way to fix it, uninstall Thunderbird, close this topic, switch to Mac.
Simple.

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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2007, 07:47:21 PM »
That's not what i'm saying at all...until you tell the mail server what to do it's gonna do nothing.
I rum TBird and have for years,
Under TBird i have many accounts...
My ISP account....if i delete messages here they are removed from the server immediately.
Yahoo...if i delete messages in TBird they are gone from my hard drive...but they still exist on the Yahoo server unless i travel to Yahoo on a web page...check them and select delete.
GMail...i have 4 GMail accounts, i have it set up as was described above and when i delete something in TBird it is also deleted off the GMail servers as well....

I don't know how to explain it any further other than any web-based e-mail account has it's own behaviours...whether you are using TBird or not.
I'm done.
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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2007, 01:06:50 PM »
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Yahoo...if i delete messages in TBird they are gone from my hard drive...but they still exist on the Yahoo server unless i travel to Yahoo on a web page...check them and select delete.   ...


Just a quick fyi:
I too have a Yahoo email account.  Since I rarely use it, I didn't know what to expect.
After reading your above,  decided to test it.
With both      Leave messages on server       and      Until I delete them checked,    it worked fine.     Delete an email in T-Bird,  run another Get mail, and then check again with web interface.   Message was deleted.

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This is not a Thunderbird issue...this is an issue where the user doesn't understand what an e-mail client can and cannot do with a web-based e-mail account.
Simple as that.

You just might be right.     
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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2007, 01:09:33 PM »

Where?  which Inbox?     on the Hotmail server that you can view via the web?
Or within T-Bird?


Within the Hotmail server I can view via the web.

Ok.  So it not related to T-Bird.     
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Re: Thunderbird does not delete messages...
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2007, 03:19:59 PM »
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Just a quick fyi:
I too have a Yahoo email account.  Since I rarely use it, I didn't know what to expect.
After reading your above,  decided to test it.
With both      Leave messages on server       and      Until I delete them checked,    it worked fine.     Delete an email in T-Bird,  run another Get mail, and then check again with web interface.   Message was deleted.

This does not happen in my account...same settings.
TBird ver. 2.0.0.6 all updates...
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