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Rhodell

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    SLOW PC
    « on: August 10, 2008, 11:19:12 AM »
    Hello to all.
    I came to realize that over time a PC becomes slow just simply by installing/uninstalling software.
    I have read the Q&A section in regards to that matter on this website but a definite solution does not seem to be in hand.
    Is there any way to get my PC to run faster WITHOUT the use of those third party softwares?
    How can I get rid of those old registry files of softwares I uninstalled?
    I have 3rd party registry cleaners but its all a hoax since if I go to re-download an old software (trials are a great example) the software seems to IDENTIFY my computer and it acts like it was always installed even though I uninstalled it AND I cleaned up the registry after that with MORE than one software.
    I think if I am able to get the registry cleaned up my computer (any computer) will become faster again.

    Am I right?
    How can I do that?
    Thanks in advance for your answers.
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    drmsucks



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      Re: SLOW PC
      « Reply #1 on: August 10, 2008, 11:53:10 AM »
      More info, please: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,33586.0.html.

      There is probably more to it than "get the registry cleaned up my computer (any computer) will become faster again."


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      Re: SLOW PC
      « Reply #2 on: August 10, 2008, 12:56:42 PM »
      ...and DO NOT fall for any 3rd party "miracle tools". They DO NOT work.
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      Rhodell

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        Re: SLOW PC
        « Reply #3 on: August 10, 2008, 03:40:42 PM »
        OK
        More info:
        Win XP Home SP2
        AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual 4200+
        RAM 1024MB
        HD 250G 75% Full
        Startup is almost empty with only AVG Free on load
        and yet still takes LOOOONG time to get those windows up.
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        Re: SLOW PC
        « Reply #4 on: August 10, 2008, 03:50:39 PM »
        Define "LOOOOONG".
        When Windows is up, does computer operates normally?
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        Rhodell

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          Re: SLOW PC
          « Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 04:01:21 PM »
          I would assume 2-3 (sometimes 4) minutes  for boot time is awfully long.
          PC operated normally but slow.
          Even after loading windows and everything looks ok if I right click on the empty desktop or any file I get the busy pointer for about another minute (actuall 60 seconds time) just on a right click on an empty desktop.
          Now I wouldn's know maybe what LOOOONG is but I happen to have two more PC's an Old Laptop and an OLD desktop all loading in times between 20-30 seconds.
          So 3 minutes is long considering this machine is by far better in specs than anything else I have here.
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          Re: SLOW PC
          « Reply #6 on: August 10, 2008, 04:11:45 PM »
          Yeah. That's not normal.

          Download HijackThis:
          http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US/tools/security_tools/hijackthis/download
          Click on Download HijackThis Installer
          Post HijackTHis log.
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            Re: SLOW PC
            « Reply #7 on: August 10, 2008, 04:23:03 PM »
            Do i need to restart fresh and Hijack or just right now which I am playing a game and have browser and email prg's on?

            Thanks for your interest btw.
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            Re: SLOW PC
            « Reply #8 on: August 10, 2008, 04:37:03 PM »
            You can post it right away.
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              Re: SLOW PC
              « Reply #9 on: August 10, 2008, 04:40:36 PM »
              Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
              Scan saved at 6:40:07 PM, on 8/10/2008
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              MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16674)
              Boot mode: Normal

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              C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
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              C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
              C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgwdsvc.exe
              C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
              C:\Program Files\M-Audio\M-Audio Series II MIDI\MA_CMIDI_Inst.exe
              C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneService.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
              C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgrsx.exe
              C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgtray.exe
              C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
              C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgemc.exe
              C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
              C:\Documents and Settings\Rhodell\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
              C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
              C:\WINDOWS\System32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe
              C:\AeriaGames\LastChaosUSA\bin\nksp.exe
              C:\Program Files\POP Peeper\POPPeeper.exe
              C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
              C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe

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              O2 - BHO: &Yahoo! Toolbar Helper - {02478D38-C3F9-4EFB-9B51-7695ECA05670} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn1\yt.dll
              O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
              O2 - BHO: WormRadar.com IESiteBlocker.NavFilter - {3CA2F312-6F6E-4B53-A66E-4E65E497C8C0} - C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG8\avgssie.dll
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              O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! ¤u¨ăŚC - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn1\yt.dll
              O3 - Toolbar: Adobe PDF - {47833539-D0C5-4125-9FA8-0819E2EAAC93} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll
              O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
              O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG8_TRAY] C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgtray.exe
              O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
              O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe"  -osboot
              O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
              O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
              O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Google Update] "C:\Documents and Settings\Rhodell\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe" /c
              O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
              O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NVIDIA nTune] "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneCmd.exe" clear
              O8 - Extra context menu item: &Yahoo! Search - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsrch.htm
              O8 - Extra context menu item: Append to existing PDF - res://C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppend.html
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              O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert link target to existing PDF - res://C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppend.html
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              O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert selected links to existing PDF - res://C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppendSelLinks.html
              O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert selection to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECapture.html
              O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert selection to existing PDF - res://C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppend.html
              O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECapture.html
              O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
              O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Dictionary - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
              O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Maps - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycmap.htm
              O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &SMS - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsms.htm
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              Re: SLOW PC
              « Reply #10 on: August 10, 2008, 05:57:02 PM »
              Did you create custom "hosts" file with all those winmx entries?
              I didn't even know, that people are still using WinMX....
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                Re: SLOW PC
                « Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 07:10:13 PM »
                I don't remember any more.
                WinMX has been here for ever and I don't even use it any more.
                Did you see anything else which could be creating sluggishness to my PC?
                Also what do I do with Hijack This?
                I never used this program and I don't know what to do with the items I see after scanning.
                Thanks.
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                Re: SLOW PC
                « Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 07:17:32 PM »
                That's why I asked.
                If you don't use it, uninstall.
                When done...

                Download HostsXpert (http://www.majorgeeks.com/Hoster_d4626.html) and then follow the steps below:

                    * Unzip HostsXpert.zip
                    * It will create a folder named HostsXpert in whatever folder you extract it to.
                    * Run HostsXpert.exe by double clicking on it.
                    * click the Make Writeable? button.
                    * click Restore Microsoft's Hosts File and then click OK.
                    * Click the X to exit the program

                Post new HJT log.

                Also, was the computer slow before you installed AVG 8.0?
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                  Re: SLOW PC
                  « Reply #13 on: August 10, 2008, 07:41:57 PM »
                  Well the PC became slower by time.
                  My suspicion in regards to registry has to do with the fact that the other two PC machines here are quite faster in booting although they load a whole bunch of stuff on startup. I haven't modify any of these.
                  Still though because I use them only occasionally and I do most of my work with my main desktop and I tend to install/uninstall many prg's thats why I suspect that the sluggishness is due to registry clutter over time.
                  Since we are on this topic I have this question:
                  when installing a prg like trials etc when we trying to uninstall they do leave "stuff" behind. That's why I guess we cannot re-install an expired trial.
                  Is there a way to get completely rid of a prog ?
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                  Re: SLOW PC
                  « Reply #14 on: August 10, 2008, 07:48:18 PM »
                  We'll get there, just be patient. Proceed with my previous instructions.
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                    Re: SLOW PC
                    « Reply #15 on: August 10, 2008, 09:38:38 PM »
                    Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
                    Scan saved at 11:38:23 PM, on 8/10/2008
                    Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
                    MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16674)
                    Boot mode: Normal

                    Running processes:
                    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
                    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
                    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
                    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
                    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
                    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
                    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
                    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
                    C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgwdsvc.exe
                    C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
                    C:\Program Files\M-Audio\M-Audio Series II MIDI\MA_CMIDI_Inst.exe
                    C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneService.exe
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                    Re: SLOW PC
                    « Reply #16 on: August 10, 2008, 09:55:37 PM »
                    The log is clean.
                    You didn't answer my question, if your computer was also slow before installing AVG 8.0.

                    Then...
                    Download, and install CCleaner: http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds. Get "Slim" version.
                    Read CCleaner instruction here: http://www.jahewi.nl/ccleaner/ccleaner.html, and run CCleaner.
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                      Re: SLOW PC
                      « Reply #17 on: August 10, 2008, 09:58:30 PM »
                      I have Ccleaner for years.
                      I perform cleaning at least once a week.
                      In a way I kinda answer the question.
                      PC became slow over a period of time. AVG might have contributed but I didn't see any dramatic change because of AVG.
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                        « Reply #18 on: August 10, 2008, 10:00:38 PM »
                        BTW
                        I forgot to mention:
                        Pulling up the ADD/REMOVE programs window takes about 1-2 entire minutes up until it builds the prg list.
                        Thought I'd mention that.
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                        Re: SLOW PC
                        « Reply #19 on: August 10, 2008, 10:07:06 PM »
                        How does computer boot, and respond in Safe Mode?
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                          « Reply #20 on: August 10, 2008, 10:10:01 PM »
                          UGH
                          I would have to do that to check it out but I am currently running some prg's.
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                          Re: SLOW PC
                          « Reply #21 on: August 10, 2008, 10:19:54 PM »
                          Let me know, when you can.
                          It may bring some hints, since in Normal Mode, I can't see any unnecessary startups, or services running.
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                            « Reply #22 on: August 10, 2008, 10:33:07 PM »
                            i'm goin to restart safety mode and i let u know
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                            Re: SLOW PC
                            « Reply #23 on: August 10, 2008, 10:39:58 PM »
                            OK.
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                              Re: SLOW PC
                              « Reply #24 on: August 10, 2008, 10:49:17 PM »
                              OK
                              I restarted in SAFE MODE straight no networking.
                              Took a while loading again but after booting
                              it was significantly faster in simple things like right clicking on the desktop, pulling up START menu as well as ALL PROGRAMS menu.
                              When I re-restarted in normal mode (current) I saw some improvement but still
                              if this PC is down and I'm out the door and want to come back really quick to check for an address in google maps or something I WILL NOT consider gettin this PC on if u understand what I mean.
                              To resume: FAST (or normal) in safe mode
                                                 SLOW (but not as much) back in normal mode.
                              Any suggestions?
                              Thanks again.
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                                « Reply #25 on: August 10, 2008, 10:52:05 PM »
                                Now I will also like to mention the following.
                                Although I don't have virtualy anything in startup I do have a HUGE list of prg's in QUICK START plus a small toolbar with my drives (self made) on the task bar.
                                Is that a possible problem?
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                                Re: SLOW PC
                                « Reply #26 on: August 10, 2008, 10:54:40 PM »
                                I'd like you to totally uninstall AVG, and install one of these:
                                - Avira free antivirus: http://www.free-av.com/en/download/index.html
                                - Avast! free antivirus: http://filehippo.com/download_avast_antivirus/
                                This is as an experiment. If things won't improve, and you like AVG better, you can always go back.
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                                « Reply #27 on: August 10, 2008, 10:56:14 PM »
                                I didn't see your last post, but let's try AVG thing, first.
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                                Re: SLOW PC
                                « Reply #28 on: August 10, 2008, 10:57:17 PM »
                                Number of icons on your desktop, and number of Quick Launch items may have influence on startup time, but not afterwards.
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                                  « Reply #29 on: August 11, 2008, 12:06:31 AM »
                                  I got the Avira didnt like it
                                  Now i'm running Avast
                                  It's about the same as before (speed wise)
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                                  « Reply #30 on: August 11, 2008, 12:12:40 AM »
                                  Well, in that case, I'd back up all data, and go for fresh install.
                                  I wish, I had more advice.
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                                  Re: SLOW PC
                                  « Reply #31 on: August 11, 2008, 12:13:28 AM »
                                  Quote
                                  I wish, I had more advice.
                                  Tada!

                                  http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,62253.0.html

                                  However I am jumping in without reading the whole topic. I will do so now.
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                                    Re: SLOW PC
                                    « Reply #32 on: August 11, 2008, 12:23:29 AM »
                                    Hey man
                                    I appreciate your help and suggestions.
                                    You've been with me almost all day.
                                    I was (and still am) considering Format C: but I have to find a solution of my 120G worth of files to backup.
                                    If it wasn't for that I would have been done by now and all this discussion would have been avoided.
                                    Just trying to work around formating.

                                    Thanks and BTW It does work a bit faster admittedly.
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                                    Re: SLOW PC
                                    « Reply #33 on: August 11, 2008, 12:32:02 AM »
                                    Did you defrag recently?
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                                      « Reply #34 on: August 11, 2008, 12:35:08 AM »
                                      LOL
                                      You are a fighter man
                                      YES I defraged last night.
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                                        « Reply #35 on: August 11, 2008, 12:37:04 AM »
                                        Quote from: Rhodell on August 11, 2008, 12:23:29 AM
                                        I was (and still am) considering Format C: but I have to find a solution of my 120G worth of files to backup.
                                        Just a suggestion - add a new hard drive, install Windows on it and use your current drive as a data/program drive. If speed is your thing, get a WD Raptor for the boot drive - I boot well under a minute with AMD x2 4800+ and 2 GB of RAM with a 36 GB Raptor boot drive.

                                        Best of luck!
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                                          Re: SLOW PC
                                          « Reply #36 on: August 11, 2008, 12:38:15 AM »
                                          BTW
                                          I might be new in the forum but I am not so new in computers.
                                          I am not PC guru or anything but I do run PC for Audio, Video and website production.
                                          I have many and heavy prg's installed on this baby here.
                                          So believe me when I tell you:
                                          All the tricks in the book YES I done those.
                                          I'm just looking for that extra thing I don't know to make the machine light fast as when I put it together.
                                          Thats it.
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                                          Re: SLOW PC
                                          « Reply #37 on: August 11, 2008, 12:41:25 AM »
                                          Sometimes, there is nothing wrong with the machine, but all those little bits, and pieces add up to slow things down. It's almost impossible to track all of them down, and....here we go, reinstall may be the quickest and best option.
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                                            « Reply #38 on: August 11, 2008, 12:43:44 AM »
                                            Thanks for the suggestion about the hard drive.
                                            I do have a nice Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
                                            but I might still consider your suggestion just to skip the hastle of backing up 120G
                                            Thanks.
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                                              « Reply #39 on: August 11, 2008, 12:44:59 AM »
                                              Quote from: Rhodell on August 11, 2008, 12:38:15 AM
                                              I'm just looking for that extra thing I don't know to make the machine light fast as when I put it together.
                                              Thats it.
                                              A re-install will help, for sure, and for your use another GB of RAM would probably help you...and don't forget the Raptor!
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                                                « Reply #40 on: August 11, 2008, 12:47:19 AM »
                                                Broni
                                                You are very right man.
                                                Somewhere between an empty HD and an endless list of Audio Plugins and Adobe products (all big) maybe the machine performs good after all.
                                                LOL
                                                what can I say
                                                I wish they could talk some times you know......
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                                                  Re: SLOW PC
                                                  « Reply #41 on: August 11, 2008, 12:51:27 AM »
                                                  I just checked that Raptor man
                                                  That bad boy is expensive...
                                                  The smallest I saw is 74G and goes up to $180
                                                  Gosh..........
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                                                    « Reply #42 on: August 11, 2008, 01:02:55 AM »
                                                    Are you in the U.S.?

                                                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014+50001306+1035507821&name=10000+RPM

                                                    Still expensive - but that 36 GB is all you need to run the OS and the few programs that won't install to your other drive. I originally bought two of the 36 GB to run in a RAID 0 - wasn't significantly faster than the single drive so I broke the RAID and re-installed onto just one drive. I've been running it about two years now and only have about 11 GB on it.
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                                                      « Reply #43 on: August 11, 2008, 01:05:19 AM »
                                                      Well thanks to all for everything
                                                      I will take everything on account (prices, headache and the rest) and will come up with something.

                                                      Thanks.
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