Author Topic: Windows NT.................... (Read 10447 times)

PHFM · « **on:** September 20, 2008, 03:37:03 AM »

Evening from Oz,
I have just been given an OLD IBM 300Mhz Celeron PC and I am trying to download Windows NT 4.0 Work Station.
I am getting that message 'NTLDR is Missing...Press any key to restart'I have tried this,I have also prointed ALL the info on different pages from the web site,I have also tried to download the CD and also floppies,BUT absolutely ZIP is happening.
It is getting rather frustrating and I am now seeking HELKP from other sources (this forum)
Can any one give me some ideas ........PLEASE.

Many thanks.

Peter
PHFM....OZ

Dias de verano · « **Reply #1 on:** September 20, 2008, 08:23:05 AM »

What do you mean by "download"? The word means to get something from the web, and you can't get NT4 legally that way.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #2 on:** September 20, 2008, 09:11:07 AM »

Am I the only one that finds it extremely annoying that the words "download" and "install" are used interchangably?

(admittedly in this case it probably DOES mean download)

Dias de verano · « **Reply #3 on:** September 20, 2008, 09:22:11 AM »

No, you are not the only one! I have seen "upload" used in maker's literature for the copying of files from e.g. a camera or phone to a computer, and "download" for the reverse operation, so I can see that "download" might mean to copy data from a bigger or more central source to a smaller or more peripheral destination, and upload would be the opposite.

Maybe some people think "download" means "install", because that's how they get all their software...

Others that bug me are "memory" when they mean "hard disk drive", "cpu" when they mean "system case", "hardrive" for "hard drive", "reformat" when they mean "reinstall Windows" - (it invariably is Windows)...

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #4 on:** September 20, 2008, 09:29:23 AM »

I've had someone refer to reformatting as "reprogramming" or "reconfiguring".

I've also had people refer to the computer itself as the monitor. I guess t hey call the real monitor a TV or something.

as far as I'm concerned, Download and Upload are meaningless terms except in a network medium.(two or more computers, I guess) you don't upload files from a floppy to a disk as much as you download from the floppy to a disk, rather your copying.

One of my favourites was a fellow who wanted to "move" the program from the CD ROM to his computer.

PHFM · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2008, 04:05:11 PM »

OK fellas........I have the CD for Windows NT and I am trying to 'reprogram' the computer or tower with this CD,BUT I am unable to install the CD onto the machine....I also have three floppy discs,BUT again I am unable to install these onto the PC/tower.........
All I am seeing is....'NTLDR is missing....Press any key to restart' I have follwed MANY instructions BUT to no avail....

Dias de verano · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2008, 05:22:53 PM »

Have you gone into the BIOS settings and made the CD drive the first boot device?

PHFM · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2008, 05:56:20 PM »

I am unable to get into the BIOS setting.Please advise on how I get into this section of the program......
Interest and assistance is really appreciated.....

OK I have just re booted the tower,I have had IBM etc.etc.etc. and on the bottom of the screen there is a message stating to press F1 to get into 'configuration./setup'....

next instruction please.........

patio · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2008, 06:54:27 PM »

Re=boot and press F1...

PHFM · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2008, 07:00:47 PM »

done that,BUT still nothing.............................

Dias de verano · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:09:31 AM »

When exactly are you pressing F1? You need to watch for the moment that the message "Press f1 to enter setup" first appears, and then repeatedly tap the F1 key quite rapidly.

PHFM · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:25:09 AM »

When I press F1 the same message comes up...............It dopsnt matter how often I p[ress F1 or how long,I get the same message.......

Dias de verano · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:28:35 AM »

This is an ancient PC that you have been given and you have never seen it working, is that right?

PHFM · « **Reply #13 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:38:11 AM »

It is old,it had Windows 98 on it,BUT I deleted all that off it to update to Windows NT and when I re statrted the tower,all I got was NTLDR is missing...press any key to restart,so therefore I take it that nothing will work and I will now have to take it to a professional spewcialist to get it repaired?

?

Dias de verano · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:46:30 AM »

Quote from: PHFM on September 21, 2008, 01:38:11 AM

It is old,it had Windows 98 on it,BUT I deleted all that off it to update to Windows NT and when I re statrted the tower,all I got was NTLDR is missing...press any key to restart,so therefore I take it that nothing will work and I will now have to take it to a professional spewcialist to get it repaired??

It would have been helpful if you had supplied that information before.

Now we know, which we didn't before, that it was working quite recently.

1. How did you "delete Windows 98"? (What method did you use?)
2. How did you "update to Windows NT"?
3. When you see the message "press any key to restart", do you press a key, and does it restart?
4. Have you opened the case and done things inside?

PHFM · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2008, 02:01:31 AM »

Sorry,But I thought that I had mentioned that,BUT on looking back on the original opening post,I realised that I hadnt mentioned that.......
When I deleted Windows 98,I deleted ALL programs thru control panel and then add/remove all Windows 98 programs.
I have a Windows NT program BUT the tower wont accept it at all.
When I put the CD into the CD Rom nothing happens at all,it just comes up with the ' NTLDR is missing...press key to start' and nothing happens,
NO nothing inside the tower has been touched at all

Dias de verano · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2008, 02:35:00 AM »

Quote from: PHFM on September 21, 2008, 02:01:31 AM

When I deleted Windows 98,I deleted ALL programs thru control panel and then add/remove all Windows 98 programs.

Then you have not actually "removed" Windows 98. You have merely deleted a number of programs. The Windows 98 boot sector and boot loader are still in place, I think. (Summary: that isn't the way to remove an unwanted operating system)

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I have a Windows NT program BUT the tower wont accept it at all.

I have asked you already to tell me HOW you are doing this, but you have not answered. When you first put the CD in, something must have happened, because "NTLDR is missing" is an NT message, nothing to do with Win98. What happened after you first installed the CD? Or did this happen right from the start? Have you got any other OS install CDs you can try out?

What happens if you restart the computer

1. With the CD in the drive (no floppy)
2. With the floppy (no CD)
3. With neither a floppy nor a CD present?

At the moment, I am thinking along these lines: (a) Damaged NT install CD. (b) damaged or loose IDE cable(s) (c) other damaged hardware e.g. motherboard hard drive, etc

You mentioned that you were using floppies? What floppies? An NT4 install set?

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When I put the CD into the CD Rom nothing happens at all,it just comes up with the ' NTLDR is missing...press key to start' and nothing happens,

Do you mean nothing happens when you press a key like it says in the message?

PHFM · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2008, 02:49:44 AM »

OK back to square 1.......
I have cleaned out Windows 98...ALL programs.
I have switched off the tower/computer and switched it on again.Before I have put the NT CD into the reader,I automatically get this NTLDR is missing Press any key to restart,BUT on pressing any button NOTHING happens.
I then switched of the computer,tuned it back on,installed the CD ROM and waited,BUT still I receive the NTLDR is missing,press any ket to restart.When I press any key,there is absolutely nothing.,
Yes I have an NT install floppy set,BUT on installing them into the reader,I get the same message.
I can assure you that the tower was working OK when i switched it on with Windows 98,BUT as soon as I deleted this program,or thought I did,everything went haywire.
When I receive this NTLDR message and I keep my finger onto 'any key' the pining starts and keeps going,BUT again nothing appears on the screen.

Dias de verano · « **Reply #18 on:** September 21, 2008, 02:52:04 AM »

Quote from: PHFM on September 21, 2008, 02:49:44 AM

the pining starts

What is that?

Also, something does not make sense here. You say you removed Windows 98 (by your highly unofficial method) and then when you restart -- without any CD-ROM or floppy inserted -- you get an "ntldr is missing" message. That just plain doesn't make sense.

Are you quite sure it was Windows 98 on the PC before?

PHFM · « **Reply #19 on:** September 21, 2008, 03:31:34 AM »

When I press 'any key' there is a ping,ping,ping....................
Yes I am very sure that Window 98 was on the PC
I have no ideas either,so give your brain a break as it is 0323,(7:30PM ) local time......
Try something during the daylight......................

patio · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2008, 06:29:00 AM »

Travel to bootdisk.com and DLoad the file for Win98SE bootdisk...make sure to get the one with CDRom support.
Extract the file to a clean floppy.
Boot up the machine with the floppy in.
At the A:\ prompt type in format C: /u and hit Enter.
When it finishes remove the floppy insert the NT CD and re-boot.
The NT install should now start.

PHFM · « **Reply #21 on:** September 21, 2008, 07:39:32 AM »

OK Patio,I shall give that a BIG go before I head for the bed....
Will let you know how I go....

PHFM · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:12:13 AM »

I have been to bootdisk.com and Dloaded the file for Wnd98SE...
I have put it into the tower,switched on the PC tried to boot up,BUT all I get on the screen is the same message....no luck at all.
When I switch of the PC and restart it i get the message to press F1 for configeration/etc and when i start there again there is no assistants at all.
Next suggestion,or do i take it to a local PC outlet.

Dias de verano · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:23:51 AM »

So, when booting with a Win98 floppy, you get an "NTLDR is missing" message?

Do you hear seeking noises from the floppy drive? Does its light come on?

PHFM · « **Reply #24 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:29:08 AM »

yes to both questions

Dias de verano · « **Reply #25 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:33:51 AM »

The Windows 98 floppy never gets to the A prompt?

How did you make the floppy?

PHFM · « **Reply #26 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:40:22 AM »

as per patio's suggestion.......

Dias de verano · « **Reply #27 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:42:01 AM »

Did you actually extract the file onto the floppy, or did you just copy it?

PHFM · « **Reply #28 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:53:32 AM »

extracted it

JJ 3000 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 22, 2008, 01:08:04 AM »

When you turn your computer on you should see a message that says to press a key to enter setup. It is usually an F key or esc or del. when you press this key you will enter your BIOS. here you need to change your BOOT order or BOOT sequence. You set your CD drive as the first boot device and save changes. Now reboot with your CD in the drive.

PHFM · « **Reply #30 on:** September 22, 2008, 01:14:24 AM »

When I turn the computer on YES I do see to press F1 to enter setup/configeration,BUT wasnt aware what to have the reading.
I have to go out for a local meeting in 1/2 hours time,so i shall give it a try when I return home at 7:00pm local time and see what occurs.

JJ 3000 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 22, 2008, 01:18:08 AM »

So you've gotten into BIOS now?

PHFM · « **Reply #32 on:** September 22, 2008, 04:54:03 AM »

This is my last post to this site.......
Nothing is working,I have activated a floppy,it dosnt functiuon.I am still receiving the NTLDR is missing press any key.......nothing is working,so thanmk you to all the assistants with this,BUT I have decided to take it to a local PC specialist for him to repair.

Thanking you all

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