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    Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
    « on: October 04, 2008, 12:06:01 AM »
    Hello all, this is my first post.

    I received this rather older HP Pavilion ze5000 in hopes to fix it because the laptop would boot fine until one day it would not boot to the operating system or boot to to the XP setup after copying files at all. The friend of mine who gave me this laptop told me that he had added a new Seagate Ultra-ATA 60 GB hard drive because the older one failed, so I knew that this new hard disk was fresh and didn't have any damage after testing it with other systems.

    Well, here' the problem. I boot to the WinXP install disk as normal, and after it formats and copies the files, it asks to reboot, and so I do. BIOS acknowledges the presence of the hard drive, but setting the Hard Drive to Auto and rebooting just leaves a blinking white cursor on the top left corner of the screen, as well as setting the hard drive to "IDE Removable" (in which it is), then the words "Operating System not Found" show on the screen. Changing any of the boot priorities in the BIOS to anything other than:

    Removable Devices
    Hard Disk
    CD-ROM
    Built-In LAN

    ...just simply posts the words "Error loading Operating System" on the screen. I have read on the internet that if times like these come to be, then my BIOS may need to be flashed. Well, my PhoenixBIOS version KD.M1.02, has no updates online or any other updates even on the Hewlett Packard website, so I feel I'm SOL.

    I think the Hard Disk Controller may be fried or the IDE cable might be corroded, but I still believe the problem can be fixed. But I have no way of checking, because removing the screws on the back of the laptop gives me no accessibility to the inside of the laptop, the motherboard, processor, etcetera. For now, here are the specifications for this Hewlett Packard Pavilion ze5000 notebook PC:

    Intel P4 @ 2.00 GHz
    Mobo Unknown
    PhoenixBIOS KD.M1.02
    Seagate 60 GB 16 Sector Ultra-ATA
    512 mb RAM

    If I could get some help off you all, then that would be great. I see a lot of similar threads over the world wide web, but almost all of the threads about the "Hard Drive" issues are resolved within the threads, but this laptop has been giving me *censored* for a while now, and I'd rather get it fixed without spending a dime on it rather than see it collect dust in the garage.

    Thanks and cheers,
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    Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
    « Reply #1 on: October 04, 2008, 02:02:41 AM »
    Welcome to the CH forums.

    Run the Seagate diagnostics (Seatools) available for free here...  A clean test will at least indicate that your hdd is performing within specs..

    Also run Memtest86 from this site to confirm your ram is error free.

    Ensure the bios boot sequence is first cdrom, second hdd and that the hdd is set to auto select in bios.

    Flashing the bios should be the last option considered.
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      « Reply #2 on: October 04, 2008, 04:10:40 PM »
      Thanks for the help.  Here's what's going on.

      I ran the Seatools Diagnostics, and the Hard Disk "PASSED" the tests that were initiated.  That eliminates any problems with the Seagate hard disk.

      I also ran Memtest86, and afterwards, it said "Pass complete, no errors, press Esc to exit".  So that eliminates any problems with the RAM.

      I have re-done the Boot List to your specified order, but now, when I start the laptop up, it boots to a blank screen with a flashing white underscore in the top left hand corner. 

      Can we take this to the next step?  Thanks, GS.

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        Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
        « Reply #3 on: October 04, 2008, 04:41:59 PM »
        UPDATE:

        I finally got the thing to boot properly, after waiting for the underscore to disappear 10 or 15 minutes, it went to the WinXP setup.  Setup completed successfully, but now every time I turn on the laptop, it takes 10 or 15 minutes to go into the Operating System.  Also note that the Hard Drive Light is solid throughout this time.  Any ideas?

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        Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
        « Reply #4 on: October 04, 2008, 06:27:34 PM »
        When the system has booted do:

        Start>Run and in the dialog box enter SFC /SCANNOW (note the space between sfc and /) and click OK.  Have your XP install disk handy, the system may ask for it.

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          « Reply #5 on: October 04, 2008, 07:14:52 PM »
          Is your method suppose to fix the 10~15 minute wait until the OS boots up?  Because I did that, and I'm back to waiting 10 minutes for Windows to boot up.  Could you lend me a hand?  Thanks for your help.

          Cheers, GS.

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          Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
          « Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 09:08:35 AM »
          Size of the drive ? ?
          Amount of free space ? ?

          Have you defragged recently ?
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            Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
            « Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 05:16:14 PM »
            Seagate 60 GB Ultra-ATA, defragged after installation of Windows.  CheckDisk and Seagate Diagnostics show no sign of HDD corruption or problems.  The laptop seems to start up normal for a day or so, and then starts hanging for 10 minutes with a white underscore on the top left hand corner for almost exactly 10 minutes until the log-in screen for Windows shows up.  It's been going back and forth, back and forth, some days it'll start up fine, some days it'll sit there with a blank screen for 10 minutes until Windows comes up.  Also note that during this 10 minute wait the Hard Drive Indication Light is solid.  Is there a definite fix for this?  Thanks a lot for your help. 

            Cheers, GS.
            « Last Edit: October 06, 2008, 05:31:37 PM by GoldenScimitar »

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            Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
            « Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 05:39:12 PM »
            Any Norton or Symantec products on this machine ? ?
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              Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
              « Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 07:00:12 PM »
              Nothing, it's a fresh install.  I think it's fatal, but I'm trying to download a bios flash file for the laptop because DriverDetective says that it is "bad", but for some reason I can't find any PhoenixBIOS files for free anywhere!  If you could give me some information about this, that would be greatly appreciated.  Cheers, GS.

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              Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
              « Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 07:06:32 PM »
              1) DO NOT flash a BIOS for a hardware/software issue...

              2) DO NOT trust anything Driver Detective tells you to do.

              You could wind up with an expensive doorstop as a result...
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                Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                « Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 07:09:47 PM »
                Umm...could you point me towards the right direction in fixing this bogus 10-minute boot up issue?  I really need this squared away, and I appreciate all of your help.  Cheers, GS.

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                  Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                  « Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 08:33:58 PM »
                  Gurus, please take a look at this, and please give me some help to fix this 10-minute boot problem.

                  Here is a boot log for a typical 10-minute hang Windows boot:

                   Service Pack 210  6 2008 19:19:58.500
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\hal.dll
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\KDCOM.DLL
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\BOOTVID.dll
                  Loaded driver ACPI.sys
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
                  Loaded driver pci.sys
                  Loaded driver isapnp.sys
                  Loaded driver ohci1394.sys
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\1394BUS.SYS
                  Loaded driver compbatt.sys
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\BATTC.SYS
                  Loaded driver aliide.sys
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
                  Loaded driver pcmcia.sys
                  Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
                  Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
                  Loaded driver ACPIEC.sys
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\OPRGHDLR.SYS
                  Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
                  Loaded driver VolSnap.sys
                  Loaded driver atapi.sys
                  Loaded driver disk.sys
                  Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
                  Loaded driver fltmgr.sys
                  Loaded driver sr.sys
                  Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
                  Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
                  Loaded driver NDIS.sys
                  Loaded driver srescan.sys
                  Loaded driver Mup.sys
                  Loaded driver alim1541.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\intelppm.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\usbohci.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ac97ali.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\fdc.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\parport.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\alifir.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\irenum.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Imapi.SYS
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\FA312nd5.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\audstub.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rasirda.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\update.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mssmbios.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
                  Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
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                  Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i2omgmt.SYS
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\klif.sys
                  Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mnmdd.SYS
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\vsdatant.sys
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                  Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\processr.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fips.SYS
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\avgmfx86.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\avgldx86.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\USBSTOR.SYS
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdfs.SYS
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fastfat.SYS
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys
                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\sysaudio.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\aec.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\DMusic.sys
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                  Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ParVdm.SYS
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                  Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                  « Reply #13 on: October 07, 2008, 05:37:22 AM »
                  Have you tried re-installing the MBoard drivers ? ?
                  Chipset drivers go FIRST...
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                    Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                    « Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 04:49:51 PM »
                    This is an old Hewlett Packard laptop, there aren't any motherboard drivers out there, because HP is too selfish not to give me anything except for some software updates on their Driver Downloads section of their site.  Device manager shows everything working fine, so I think everything is up to date.  Cheers, GS.

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                    Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                    « Reply #15 on: October 07, 2008, 05:17:28 PM »
                    Post the system info and we'll track 'em down...
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                      Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                      « Reply #16 on: October 08, 2008, 07:11:16 PM »
                      The system info is on my first post of this thread, but here's a more detailed look.

                      Intel P4 Northwood @ 2.00 GHz
                      Hewlett Packard Motherboard "No Namo"
                      PhoenixBIOS KD.M1.02
                      Seagate 60 GB 16 Sector Ultra-ATA
                      Radeon Mobility 6 graphics (I have drivers for this)
                      512 MB RAM
                      Windows XP Home Edition SP2

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                      Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                      « Reply #17 on: October 09, 2008, 08:20:06 PM »
                      Not enough info...
                      DLoad and install and run the following all FREE to determine the MBoard on that machine:
                      AIDA32
                      Everest Home
                      System Information for Windows...
                      One of them will give us the MBoard info...

                      All available @ majorgeeks dot com...
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                        Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                        « Reply #18 on: October 10, 2008, 12:51:31 AM »
                        I am unable to use the machine anymore, the laptop always hangs at a screen with a "White bar with a black background", and refuses to go past that screen into the Windows login area.  I don't know what to do.  I think I'm SOL with this computer.  I formatted it twice and this is all it does.

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                          « Reply #19 on: October 11, 2008, 01:41:49 AM »
                          Eh...Well are you all just going to walk away from my thread here?  I'd like to get this problem defined and fixed as soon as possible.  Is this the right website to ask for help? :-\

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                            Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                            « Reply #20 on: October 11, 2008, 03:44:29 AM »
                            If urgency is not a requirement, then patience is a virtue to cultivate.

                            If urgency is vital, perhaps a local computer shop can fix it quicker than this or any other free of cost website.

                            Please note that whatever you choose, it is likely another computer will be required to fix your computer.

                            It is not unknown for a repair to require the physical removal of a hard drive and temporary installation as a slave in another computer.  This is something local computer shops can do for you.

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                              « Reply #21 on: October 11, 2008, 02:34:43 PM »
                              As I got this laptop for free, I don't want to drop a penny on trying to fix this old laptop.  But you all haven't answered what would possibly cause a 10~15 minute wait from the POST screen until the Windows Logo and Login screens show up.  Could it be an incompatibility somewhere here?  Thanks for your help.

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                                « Reply #22 on: October 11, 2008, 03:13:53 PM »
                                I am unable to use the machine anymore, the laptop always hangs at a screen with a "White bar with a black background", and refuses to go past that screen into the Windows login area.  I don't know what to do.  I think I'm SOL with this computer.  I formatted it twice and this is all it does.

                                You were guilty of serious exaggeration.
                                Your last status report as above indicated your computer was totally dead in the water.
                                I understood that what had been a 10 minute delay had suddenly become a never no more situation.

                                My arms are not long enough to reach out over the Internet and repair a totally dead computer by remote control.
                                I think most people who could have helped will have stood back from an impossible situation.

                                Now that you have cancelled that serious exaggeration it is possible that someone may see a way for you to implement a cure,
                                but a little patience and gratitude for previous efforts would not go amiss.

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                                  Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                  « Reply #23 on: October 11, 2008, 07:39:41 PM »
                                  No problem, Alan, and other folks on the forum.  I was only slightly heated over my thread and last post not being replied for over a day, but I understand you all are here to help.

                                  Well here's the deal, the computer was dead, but I got some time to reformat and run some hard disk checks, in which I was successful in installing Windows XP SP2, but I am now faced with the same 10~15 minute "hang" in boot-up.  My vision is that the Seagate IDE Ultra-ATA hard drive that a friend of mine got separately for the laptop is not compatible, IE the BIOS having a Cylinder-Limitation, etcetera, that may be causing this long delay for BIOS to recognize the hard drive and launch Windows XP.  But the problem is, after running Seagate Diagnostics, the hard drive is perfectly compatible with the current system I am using.  Could it be a BIOS issue, or could it be a hard disk controller going bad?  After the long delay and after Windows finally loads, there's absolutely no issues with the operating system.  But a fraction of the time this laptop loads the OS just fine, with no delay at all, but then jumps back and forth between a normal boot sequence and having to wait 15 minutes.  Truly something bizarre and something I've been ripping my hair out trying to work on for quite some time now.  Cheers, GS.

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                                  Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                  « Reply #24 on: October 12, 2008, 10:04:21 AM »
                                  You are missing system Drivers...
                                  Follow the instructions i posted above.
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                                    Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                    « Reply #25 on: October 12, 2008, 11:37:14 AM »
                                    I have found that the Motherboard is a HP Pavilion ze4000 motherboard, and I downloaded all of the system drivers off of a HP driver website.  All of the system drivers have been installed, and I don't get a blinking white cursor anymore on startup, but the computer now hangs on a black screen with a white progress bar for about 25 minutes until I see the Windows Logo show up.  Looking around online people mention that the white progress bar that takes forever to get past is actually seen when the computer is coming out of hibernation, but I don't have Hibernation turned on.  Any ideas?  Cheers, GS.

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                                    Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                    « Reply #26 on: October 12, 2008, 12:54:50 PM »
                                    Repair Install of XP

                                    I suggest reading it thru completely to get familiar with the procedure paying special attention to the warnings and printing out a copy for reference before starting...
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                                      Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                      « Reply #27 on: October 12, 2008, 09:14:59 PM »
                                      Allright, I went through the procedures you posted, and also re-created the Boot.ini file, and everything worked perfectly

                                      UNTIL

                                      ...I defragmented.  Then the nightmare started all over again.  10 minute boot times with a black screen with a white status bar in the middle.  Oh my god...Do you all have any idea what this damned computer has going for me?  Cheers, GS.

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                                        Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                        « Reply #28 on: October 13, 2008, 06:54:52 AM »
                                        Some system files are very important and should not be fragmented.

                                        Windows normally knows the difference.

                                        Could Windows have made a mistake and trashed itself via its own defrag utility ?

                                        Did you actually use the built-in standard defrag tool ?
                                        There are many others you might have used - some good, and some not so good ?

                                        Assuming it was defrag that trashed your computer :-
                                        By repeating Patio's advice, does that mend it ?
                                        and after mending it, does defrag again trash it ?

                                        I am asking questions which may throw light on the situation,
                                        and this may help others to provide a solution.
                                        It is JUST possible I might see a solution, but not probable,
                                        so please anyone - don't wait for me.

                                        Best of luck

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                                          Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                          « Reply #29 on: October 13, 2008, 05:00:28 PM »
                                          I used the default Windows Defragmenter, and everything ran fine but slow where there was about 41% disk fragmentation, and then I defragmented to 0% disk fragmentation, ran CHKDSK, and there was absolutely no problems.  The next time I restarted the computer is where the nightmare started again.  This is he'll for me.  I feel like taking it out to my back yard and blasting it with a shotgun.  Cheers, GS.

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                                          Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                          « Reply #30 on: October 13, 2008, 05:48:44 PM »
                                          Post the link you used for the MBoard drivers....NOT the generic HP link but what page you actually DLoaded them from.
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                                            Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                            « Reply #31 on: October 13, 2008, 10:46:48 PM »
                                            This here:

                                            http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob963en&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=214342&os=228

                                            The HP ze5000 used the same motherboard as a ze4000, so the drivers can be used between the two models.  Don't mark me wrong, I know this for a fact, and the drivers are meant to be used with the 4000~5000 models.  But I think this is beside the point.  I think something is failing, most likely hardware.  Cheers, GS.

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                                              Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                              « Reply #32 on: October 16, 2008, 04:40:12 PM »
                                              Alive, anybody? ::)

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                                                Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                                « Reply #33 on: October 20, 2008, 11:01:29 PM »
                                                I got rid of the machine.  That ought to help clarify that I wanted some further much needed help but sometimes threads get magically ignored on forums like these... :-\

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                                                  Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                                  « Reply #34 on: October 21, 2008, 06:28:07 AM »
                                                  For the benefit of visitors to this forum

                                                  Please note the lesson to be learnt here is NOT that "sometimes threads are MAGICALLY ignored".

                                                  There may be many reasons for lack of advice.
                                                  I am quite new to this forum, and speak ONLY for myself.

                                                  My reasons for holding back on this thread were :-
                                                  1.  OP failed to give diagnostic information that was requested;
                                                  e.g. request on 9 Oct.
                                                  2.  Arrogant assumption on 11 Oct that "Well are you all just going to walk away from my thread here?"
                                                  whereas I at least was waiting to see information as requested on 9 Oct.
                                                  3.  False declaration on 10 Oct. that "I am unable to use the machine anymore,"
                                                  4.  on 12 Oct the information request of 9 Oct was again requested
                                                  5  on 12 Oct the OP again failed to comply, and instead told us he had downloaded all system drivers and made it much worse
                                                  6. On 12 Oct OP advised that following Patio's advice everything worked perfectly, but the original fault returned immediately he defragmented the drive.
                                                  7. On 13 Oct I asked
                                                  "By repeating Patio's advice, does that mend it ?
                                                  and after mending it, does defrag again trash it ?"
                                                  These two question were ignored, and 3 days later we are asked "Alive, anybody?"

                                                  Summary :-
                                                  To get a speedy solution, one should :-
                                                  Not assume one knows better than the people offering advice;
                                                  Give the information as requested;
                                                  Be patient and courteous.

                                                  Alan

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                                                    Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                                    « Reply #35 on: October 21, 2008, 05:30:23 PM »
                                                    First of all Alan,

                                                    Let me clarify to you that I never ignored any of your posts.  After you asked me about the Defrag possibly trashing the system, I acknowledged that in the next post. 


                                                    Patio asked me to post the drivers I used, so I did.  And nobody came back to discuss the situation with me for over a few days.  This tells me the lack of devotion to discuss the topic, as well as the lack of devotion to further respond to a thread, was basically what I saw.

                                                    And that is why I posted, "Alive, anybody?", and then a few days later, the final post I made before you replied.  Patience runs short after a while if nobody is willing to step up like a man and help somebody else out, and devote some of their time to respond to threads, rather than letting the topic poster's reply collect dust for days without even letting the person know about what needs to be done next.

                                                    Get the picture?

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                                                    Re: Serious monitor Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000
                                                    « Reply #36 on: June 26, 2011, 04:20:45 PM »
                                                    hi guyzz,,, 
                                                    i have big problem.. i have laptop HP Pavilion ze5000... last night while using it.. all of the sudden the monitor or screen is turning black.. as in black..... i don't know what to do then i turn in off then on again but the monitor still black, the good thing is still working.. the problem only is the screen or monitor..... sorry Im not a technical or computer expert..... i really need help guysss....

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                                                    Re: Serious Problem With HP Pavilion ze5000 Boot
                                                    « Reply #37 on: June 26, 2011, 04:22:44 PM »
                                                    Please start your own thread. Posting in a thread that is more than two years old will not get the responses you want.