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UnitySpirit

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    Blue screen of Death help needed please
    « on: October 14, 2008, 07:55:33 PM »
    Very randomly my computer shuts down and i get this message Target_Mdl_Too_small  and I saved a mini dump file.Can anyone help me to debug the minidump or find whats causing this crash? I did find a lot of dust on the cpu fan and cleaned it out with a soft brush and can of air. I checked other fans they are running but im not sure if the power supply is running as fast as it should be. i blew it out also . my computer is about 4 years old and I never turn it off. I ran speedfan everything is normal but it shows hot on cpu but i found that the cpu is suppose to be around 70c and its showing about 60-60C sometimes up to 70c. my video card does seem to give me heck sometimes playing flash so thought maybe it may be going out or need newer driver I updated the driver and still problems. well any help appreciated. just want to send this minidump if someone can read what it says. i dont have the cd of winxp just  a restore software disks. cant find the debugchk.exe on it.

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    Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
    « Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 09:02:21 PM »
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    i found that the cpu is suppose to be around 70c
    Is it laptop? Processor info, please.

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      Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
      « Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 09:54:54 PM »
      There's a wealth of information in Mark Russinovich's "Windows Hang and Crash Dump Analysis" webcast:
          TechNet Webcast: Windows Hang and Crash Dump Analysis (Level 400)

      To avoid jumping through Microsoft's hoops to access the webcast you might try the following link 1 of 9 on YouTube:
          YouTube's Version: Part 1 of 9

      Look to right of YouTube's video box and under related videos you should see link to next part as you need it; e.g. "Windows Hang and Crash Dump Analysis 2/9".

      Yeah Broni, you know you can't resist... Get plenty of popcorn - 85 minute video.

      UnitySpirit

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        Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
        « Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 11:31:43 AM »
        Sorry about that I should have said what my computer was. I used belarc advisory and this is some of the info it gave me on my computer below. ;
        Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
        2.07 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
        128 kilobyte primary memory cache
        512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
        Compaq Presario 061 P8657J-ABA SR1000Z
         Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. Kelut 2.02
        Bus Clock: 167 megahertz
        BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 3.03 02/09/2004
            1024 Megabytes Installed Memory

        Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
        Slot 'A1' is Empty
        40.00 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
        16.49 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

        HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B [CD-ROM drive]
        3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
        NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 [Display adapter]
        Default Monitor
        IMP 4485 [Monitor] (16.3"vis, s/n GC292C0254, September 2002)
        ManyCam Virtual Webcam, WDM Video Capture Driver
        Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller

        AVG Anti-Virus Version 8.0
            Realtime File Scanning On
        Might be more info needed or not enough. its a tower computer anyways and not laptop.

        UnitySpirit

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          Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
          « Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 11:32:41 AM »
          thanks I will check out the webcast also .  :)

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          Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
          « Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 11:44:11 AM »
          According to this site: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00169924&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=407672, your processor is listed as AMD Athlon XP (B) 3000+ operating at 2.16 GHz
          You have serious overheating problem!
          Your processor MAX temp is listed at 70C, so you're close to melting point.
          I wouldn't use the computer, until the problem is solved.
          Turn computer off, open the case, and give it a good cleaning, using compressed air.
          Turn it on (with case opened), and see, if all fans are running.
          Report on progress.


          UnitySpirit

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            Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
            « Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 01:41:40 PM »
            Im using Speedfan program which has no real help to it. The temp shows 65c right now on the ACPI fan what ever that one is. I will try cleaning it more. I dont know how to remove the fan from the Cpu thats what had most of the clogging on it when I opened the case my fans are at 100 percent right now using speedfan and they run at 4461 rpm and 2361 rpm.

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              Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
              « Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 01:50:41 PM »
              ok well speedfan was reporting hot but that wasnt my cpu. I just turned off that acpi. I found its pointless. im running 39c so im ok there. I think it may be my video card driver. I crash mostly when viewing movies flash. ect. will probably just get a new one. will let you know if this fixes it. the video card is way old.

              UnitySpirit

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                Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
                « Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 05:44:47 PM »
                Ok it did it again today this time a new message. I figured out how to use windbg and got this information. Not sure how to read it though.

                Pfn_list_corrupt this go around

                *******************************************************************************
                *                                                                             *
                *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
                *                                                                             *
                *******************************************************************************

                PFN_LIST_CORRUPT (4e)
                Typically caused by drivers passing bad memory descriptor lists (ie: calling
                MmUnlockPages twice with the same list, etc).  If a kernel debugger is
                available get the stack trace.
                Arguments:
                Arg1: 00000099, A PTE or PFN is corrupt
                Arg2: 00023db5, page frame number
                Arg3: 00000006, current page state
                Arg4: 00000000, 0

                Debugging Details:
                ------------------

                PEB is paged out (Peb.Ldr = 7ffdc00c).  Type ".hh dbgerr001" for details
                PEB is paged out (Peb.Ldr = 7ffdc00c).  Type ".hh dbgerr001" for details

                BUGCHECK_STR:  0x4E_99

                DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  DRIVER_FAULT

                PROCESS_NAME:  avgcmgr.exe

                LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from 80520b7c to 805339ae

                STACK_TEXT: 
                f3beb9c8 80520b7c 0000004e 00000099 00023db5 nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x1b
                f3beba0c 804f71d0 e1486dc0 01000000 00000001 nt!MmPurgeSection+0x4cd
                f3beba3c 80519f86 86ecbacc 00000000 00000000 nt!CcPurgeCacheSection+0xd4
                f3beba74 80573f67 0000704f f3bebaec f3bebb80 nt!CcZeroEndOfLastPage+0xdb
                f3bebac8 804df06b f3bebbbc 0000000d f3bebb8c nt!NtCreateSection+0x14c
                f3bebac8 804dd0d6 f3bebbbc 0000000d f3bebb8c nt!KiFastCallEntry+0xf8
                f3bebb5c 8058edc8 f3bebbbc 0000000d f3bebb8c nt!ZwCreateSection+0x11
                f3bebbb4 8058f392 f3bebbdc 00000081 f3bebc14 nt!CcPfGetSectionObject+0xca
                f3bebc48 8058e971 f3bebc70 00000000 00000000 nt!CcPfPrefetchSections+0x2b7
                f3bebc88 8058e7ed e2faa000 00080000 866e2020 nt!CcPfPrefetchScenario+0x7b
                f3bebd04 80589368 866e2020 e1959958 00000000 nt!CcPfBeginAppLaunch+0x158
                f3bebd50 804fa477 00000000 7c810867 00000001 nt!PspUserThreadStartup+0xeb
                00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KiThreadStartup+0x16


                STACK_COMMAND:  kb

                FOLLOWUP_IP:
                nt!MmPurgeSection+4cd
                80520b7c 008b431c33c9    add     byte ptr [ebx-36CCE3BDh],cl

                SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  1

                SYMBOL_NAME:  nt!MmPurgeSection+4cd

                FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner

                MODULE_NAME: nt

                DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  41108004

                IMAGE_NAME:  memory_corruption

                FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  0x4E_99_nt!MmPurgeSection+4cd

                BUCKET_ID:  0x4E_99_nt!MmPurgeSection+4cd

                Followup: MachineOwner
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                Re: Blue screen of Death help needed please
                « Reply #9 on: October 15, 2008, 07:05:53 PM »
                So, SpeedFan reports CPU temp as 39C?

                From your last error, it looks like you have some problem with AVG:
                PROCESS_NAME:  avgcmgr.exe
                If it's version 8.0, I'd start with uninstalling it.
                You have two better choices:
                - Avira free antivirus: http://www.free-av.com/en/download/index.html
                - Avast! free antivirus: http://filehippo.com/download_avast_antivirus/