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Re: Is antivirus software that important?
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2008, 11:53:32 PM »
Commodo firewall is pretty good firewall too. But if you have windows vista, the windows firewall seems to be fine, as long as you got a working updating antivirus going and also you have Windows defender or some spyware checking program on.

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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #46 on: December 02, 2008, 07:41:52 AM »
    Prevention is better than CURE!
    That is why ANTI Virus is important. We dont want our files to be corrupted or lost right?! so its important to have early warning device.


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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #47 on: December 02, 2008, 08:43:33 PM »
    I hear all the time how all those mac guys are thinking they don't need any antivirus protection. What a bull!
    You'd want to prevent getting sick rather than being sick anyway....

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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #48 on: December 02, 2008, 08:48:08 PM »
    I hear all the time how all those mac guys are thinking they don't need any antivirus protection. What a bull!
    You'd want to prevent getting sick rather than being sick anyway....
    A lot of Mac users dont consider viruses that work through Macros actual viruses, when in fact they are.
    A virus is any program that replicates itself in any way, and, if its spreading, its replicating.
    Malicious software is any program that causes damage, or an un-expected action on purpose by the programmer without the users full knowledge and consent.

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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #49 on: December 03, 2008, 02:34:33 AM »
    well, yeah viruses replicate and work through host systems. I don't think there is an operating system that is totally virus free. I think Windows has more viruses only because more people use the operating system so virus writers spend more time trying to infect as many people as they possibly can.

    Mac's and Linuxes have viruses I'm sure even though it may be that there's less or the viruses are not half as bad as some of the big name ones that attack windows or have been attacking windows systems.

    Again, there is a chance of you getting sick so you want to be preventive when you are not yet sick so that there's less chance that you'll catch one.

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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #50 on: December 03, 2008, 06:35:16 AM »
    Is antivirus software that important?

    If you don't mind that green square in the middle of your screen, then we sure don't. If you don't care that all your exe files now have txt extensions, then we sure don't. If your mp3 copy of "Stairway to Heaven" sounds like a recording by Alvin and the Chipmunks, why should we care, our copy is fine.

    But when your virus starts bombarding us with spam, or a file you uploaded infects our machine, then we sure do think that anti-virus is important.

    Unless you are reckless enough to drive without insurance, why would you run a computer without any anti-virus protection?

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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #51 on: December 03, 2008, 07:15:46 PM »
    Anti-Virus software, at least in it's "on-demand" incarnations, is designed for the computer illiterate who will enthusiastically run that "keygen.exe" open that "secret document.doc.exe" and agree to all ActiveX Prompts.


    If you know what software your installing and running on your computer, and have multiple vectors to solve any problems that do arise- Anti-virus software merely get's in the way by locking files and confusing the heck out of other applications that just saved that file, and yet can't open it again...
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #52 on: December 04, 2008, 10:30:55 AM »
    Hi,  Zylstra.
    Your remarks about SP3 reflect the majority experience of users who installed it you know, However, some number of users who have had trouble with it later found out that they were supposed to have a full backup of the system before they installed it. Did you know that?   ;)
    Such a full backup requires either a tape drive, a second hard drive, or a stack of DVD-R media. Plus a recovery system that can boot from a floppy or USB or CD drive.  Do a Google on "Windows Backup" and you can find both freeware and try-n-buy programs that will do the job.

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    Re: Is antivirus software that important?
    « Reply #53 on: December 04, 2008, 09:50:37 PM »
    Even more:
    Look on your manufacturer website, see what they say about SP3, and also, Google:
    "<insert computer model here> <insert manufacture here> SP3"

    HP hasnt resolved all issues, but, they have a hotfix you can use to install it.

    Always back up!

    And, I wouldent recommend tape drives... Sure, they go up to, what, 800GB now? But, in so many ways, its such poor technology compaired to other storage mediums, and 800GB is going to be about a thousand dollars... an 800GB HDD would be cheaper. Cheapest Tapedrive I could find was 35GB, and costs around $300.

    I'd like to see more network based drives... but, you can build those yourself.

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      Re: Is antivirus software that important?
      « Reply #54 on: September 27, 2010, 12:20:07 AM »
      Nope. We need a secure operating system.

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      Re: Is antivirus software that important?
      « Reply #55 on: September 27, 2010, 04:18:18 AM »

      Nope. We need a secure operating system.

      Well done, you've just revived a 10 months old topic with an statement that is flawed at best!!
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        Re: Is antivirus software that important?
        « Reply #56 on: October 02, 2010, 11:49:37 PM »
        My answer to the original question : NO.
        I don't use any scanner during 5 years already and my computer is installed in a special way.
        The funny thing about malware is, that they betray themselves by CHANGING my system, I use the same CHANGE as a weapon to remove malware and this works already 5 years.
        I have beaten the very best scanners so far, they can't find anything, except false positives.
        (False positives is another disadvantage of scanners, they make scanners dangerous, especially for credulous users.)

        All scanners are based on blacklisting, which means they will never remove :
        - unknown/new malware that is not on any blacklist of any scanner.
        - known malware that is not on the blacklist of the used scanner, maybe on the blacklist of another scanner.
        Heuristics only remove more malware, but not ALL malware.

        AV-scanners have a pretty good detection rate, but AS-scanners have a lower detection rate.
        You need at least two AS-scanners and replace them regularly with two other AS-scanners
        in order to find malware that wasn't detected by your previous AS-scanners.
        You can have only "1" AV-scanners to avoid conflicts, which isn't really safe either.
        Good AS-scanners are Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware and SUPERAntiSpyware.

        The scanner message "Congratulations! No malware found" works like a drug to make you feel
        comfortable and sleep better, but that doesn't mean your computer is absolutely malware-free.

        Don't spend any money on scanners, because some free AV-scanners are also ADVANCED+ AV-scanners.
        This is one of the best AV-scanner tests :
        http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_od_aug2010.pdf
        « Last Edit: October 03, 2010, 12:36:13 AM by ErikAlbert »
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        Re: Is antivirus software that important?
        « Reply #57 on: October 03, 2010, 01:49:14 PM »

        @ ErikAlbert

        Well done, if i ever need to wait nearly 2 years for an answer to a topic, now i know where to come  ::) :-X
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          Re: Is antivirus software that important?
          « Reply #58 on: October 03, 2010, 02:19:36 PM »
          @ ErikAlbert

          Well done, if i ever need to wait nearly 2 years for an answer to a topic, now i know where to come  ::) :-X
          No problem. If you ever want to get rid of cleaning software, like CCleaner and registry cleaners and want a superclean system, come to me. :)
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          Re: Is antivirus software that important?
          « Reply #59 on: October 03, 2010, 02:31:38 PM »

          Now i'm not sure who is being sarcastic.  :)
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