Author Topic: can laptop ram fit into desktop? (Read 13965 times)

sjeanine · « **on:** December 04, 2008, 06:43:50 AM »

I have an older desktop pc (Windows XP, AMD Athlon Processor, 901MHz, 512MB RAM) that I want to try and upgrade but not sure how to do it. We still use it but it is sooooo slow. I recently replaced Ram on my sons laptop and took out the two sticks that were in it. Can they go into my old pc?? I recently bought a new very small (cheapest) dell pc cuz the old pc was running soooo slow but I still want to try to upgrade it but not sure where or how to begin. Can someone plz help me to know what/how to do it?? Thanks.

Calum · « **Reply #1 on:** December 04, 2008, 07:02:36 AM »

Laptop RAM will not fit into a desktop machine.
If you want some advice on how to upgrade that machine, we'll need a budget, as well as a report on that machine from Everest - see here. Also, intended use for that machine would be helpful, as well as why it's so slow - for example, how long it takes to boot etc. Some software and hardware maintenance, coupled with a few small upgrades, should work wonders on that.
Welcome to the forums!

sjeanine · « **Reply #2 on:** December 04, 2008, 07:26:20 AM »

I want to use the pc for my son to play Disney's online Toontown...almost exclusively. He has it on the pc but it lags so badly that he has to keep logging off and going back on. I want to upgrade it but will have to do a little at a time, as I get the money...not sure what it will cost but willing to work towards it.

sjeanine · « **Reply #3 on:** December 04, 2008, 08:20:42 AM »

   Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
   Report Type Quick Report
   Computer JOE-3RCY0Y9DRCU (Garrity Computer)
   Generator Joe
   Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
   Date 2008-12-04
   Time 09:02
--------[ Summary ]------------------------------------------------------------- Computer:
   Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
   OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
   DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
   Computer Name JOE-3RCY0Y9DRCU (Garrity Computer)
   User Name Joe

   Motherboard:
   CPU Type AMD Athlon, 900 MHz (9 x 100)
   Motherboard Name BCM GT133KT (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 DIMM, Audio)
   Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8363 Apollo KT133
   System Memory 512 MB (PC133 SDRAM)
   BIOS Type Award Medallion (11/02/00)
   Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
   Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
   Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

   Display:
   Video Adapter ASUS RADEON A9200SE (128 MB)
   Video Adapter RADEON 9200 SERIES - Secondary (128 MB)
   3D Accelerator ATI Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)
   Monitor Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB] (122835045)

   Multimedia:
   Audio Adapter VIA AC'97 Audio Controller [H]

   Storage:
   IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
   Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
   Disk Drive Maxtor 6E030L0 (30 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
   Optical Drive TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1502 (16x/48x DVD-ROM)
   SMART Hard Disks Status Unknown

   Partitions:
   C: (NTFS) 29313 MB (12953 MB free)

   Input:
   Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
   Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse

   Network:
   Network Adapter SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI (SMC1211 Series) (10.0.0.4)
   Modem HSP56 MicroModem

   Peripherals:
   Printer HP PSC 1400 series
   Printer KODAK EasyShare printer dock
   USB1 Controller VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller
   USB1 Controller VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller

--------[ Debug - PCI ]-----------------------------------------------------------

   B00 D00 F00: VIA VT8363 Apollo KT133 Chipset - System Controller

   Offset 00: 06 11 05 03 06 00 10 22 02 00 00 06 00 00 00 00
   Offset 10: 08 00 00 D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 17 A4 FB B4 46 0A 20 20 88 00 08 10 18 20 20 20
   Offset 60: 0F EA 00 20 E6 E6 D4 C4 50 7C 86 0D 08 5F 00 00
   Offset 70: C6 88 CC 0C 0E A1 E2 00 01 B4 19 02 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 0F 44 00 00 80 00 00 00 03 00 14 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 02 C0 20 00 07 02 00 1F 04 03 00 00 6F 02 04 00
   Offset B0: 62 DB 20 C5 31 33 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0E 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D01 F00: VIA AGP Controller

   Offset 00: 06 11 05 83 07 00 30 22 00 00 04 06 00 00 01 00
   Offset 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 00 C0 C0 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 E8 F0 E9 00 D8 F0 E7 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00
   Offset 40: CB CD 08 44 25 72 05 83 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 01 00 02 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D07 F00: VIA VT82C686A PCI-ISA Bridge

   Offset 00: 06 11 86 06 87 00 10 02 22 00 01 06 00 00 80 00
   Offset 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 14 32 21
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 40: 08 40 00 00 00 80 60 E6 01 01 84 00 00 00 F0 F3
   Offset 50: 0E 06 34 00 00 B0 BB B0 00 06 FF 08 50 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 05 32 00 02 00 00 F0 40 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D07 F01: VIA VT82C596B Integrated IDE Controller

   Offset 00: 06 11 71 05 07 00 90 02 10 8A 01 01 00 20 00 00
   Offset 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 01 D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 14 32 21
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00
   Offset 40: 03 02 08 3A 18 10 C0 00 A8 20 A8 20 FF 00 FF FF
   Offset 50: 03 E0 0B 03 14 00 00 00 A8 A8 A8 A8 00 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: F8 AE B8 02 00 00 00 00 C8 69 BA 02 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 10 00 71 05 A4 14 32 21 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D07 F02: VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller

   Offset 00: 06 11 38 30 07 00 10 02 10 00 03 0C 08 20 00 00
   Offset 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 01 D4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 25 09 34 12
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 04 00 00
   Offset 40: 00 10 03 00 C6 00 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D07 F03: VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller

   Offset 00: 06 11 38 30 07 00 10 02 10 00 03 0C 08 20 00 00
   Offset 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 01 D8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 25 09 34 12
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 04 00 00
   Offset 40: 00 10 03 00 C6 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D07 F04: VIA VT82C686A Power Management Controller

   Offset 00: 06 11 57 30 00 00 90 02 30 00 80 06 00 00 00 00
   Offset 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 14 32 21
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 68 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 40: 20 84 4B 00 BA 30 00 00 01 40 00 00 00 10 00 00
   Offset 50: 00 FF FF 88 54 01 00 00 00 FF FF 00 A4 14 32 21
   Offset 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 01 60 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 01 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D07 F05: VIA AC'97 Audio Controller [H]

   Offset 00: 06 11 58 30 01 00 10 02 20 00 01 04 00 00 00 00
   Offset 10: 01 DC 00 00 01 E0 00 00 01 E4 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 14 32 21
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 03 00 00
   Offset 40: 01 CC 8A 1C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D10 F00: SMC EZ Card 1211TX 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter

   Offset 00: 13 11 11 12 05 00 90 02 10 00 00 02 00 80 00 00
   Offset 10: 01 E8 00 00 00 00 00 EA 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 11 11 12
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 20 40
   Offset 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 01 00 02 7E 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B00 D12 F00: PCtel Platinum V.90 Modem

   Offset 00: 4D 13 97 78 00 00 10 02 02 01 03 07 00 00 00 00
   Offset 10: 01 EC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 02 00 00 4D 13 01 00
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 00 00
   Offset 40: 01 00 62 EC 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B01 D00 F00: Asus A9200SE Video Adapter

   Offset 00: 02 10 64 59 07 00 B0 02 01 00 00 03 08 FF 80 00
   Offset 10: 08 00 00 D8 01 C0 00 00 00 00 00 E9 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 43 10 08 C0
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 58 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 08 00
   Offset 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 43 10 08 C0
   Offset 50: 01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 02 50 20 00 17 02 00 4F
   Offset 60: 04 03 00 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

   B01 D00 F01: Asus A9200SE - Secondary Video Adapter

   Offset 00: 02 10 44 5D 07 00 B0 02 01 00 80 03 08 20 00 00
   Offset 10: 08 00 00 E0 00 00 01 E9 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 43 10 09 C0
   Offset 30: 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 08 00
   Offset 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 50: 01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 02 50 20 00 17 02 00 4F
   Offset 60: 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Offset F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

--------[ Debug - Video BIOS ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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   C000:0100 0AGP DGD1UN....ASUS A9200SE BIOS Version v5964.8.15.58.AS01...l.
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--------[ Debug - Unknown ]-----------------------------------------------------

   Monitor MAG0302: Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB]
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joevh09 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 04, 2008, 12:06:55 PM »

OK I have one question- How old is this computer?

sjeanine · « **Reply #5 on:** December 04, 2008, 03:29:47 PM »

I'm not sure how old it is....I think about 6 or 7 years old. It seems like we got it when my son was about two or three. There are so many files and things on it that I want to keep but it is to slow for playing games, which my son wants to do. I bought this new Dell at Walmart....I dont have much money and couldn't afford a better one and needed one asap since I do most of my work on it. But, I dont want to try and fit all my files onto this one cuz it is not a very big computer either....has less than 2 gig in it....but is expandable. My concern right now is to get the older one updated so my son can use it. He gets so frustrated when he's playing Toontown cuz of how much it freezes frames on him.

Broni · « **Reply #6 on:** December 04, 2008, 07:58:49 PM »

Your best option is to go to www.crucial.com, enter your computer brand, and model, and it'll tell you what RAM it uses.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #7 on:** December 04, 2008, 08:01:27 PM »

Quote from: sjeanine on December 04, 2008, 03:29:47 PM

fit all my files onto this one cuz it is not a very big computer either....has less than 2 gig in it....

woah- you bought a new computer and it only had a 2GB HD? Or are we talking memory? Otherwise the HD is probably plenty big to hold all your files from the other computer as well.

sjeanine · « **Reply #8 on:** December 04, 2008, 10:15:00 PM »

I got it on sale at Walmart for $398...I dont know anything about trying to fix a computer. I think it's less than 2 HD. I dont know how to tell really.

sjeanine · « **Reply #9 on:** December 04, 2008, 10:17:07 PM »

Broni,

How do I find the model number and brand name? I bought my hard drive online when I got it years ago and I dont remember who it was from now. I moved since then and dont have any of the paperwork any longer. It was just a place that builds them and sends to you.

Broni · « **Reply #10 on:** December 04, 2008, 10:27:22 PM »

It doesn't say anything on the box?
If not, try holding Windows key, and hit Pause/Break key.

Broni · « **Reply #11 on:** December 04, 2008, 11:05:18 PM »

These are your motherboard specs: http://www.bcmcom.com/tech/GT133KT/GT133KT.htm

System Memory:
2 x 168 pin DIMM sockets, support 32MB minimum and up to 1GB maximum
Supports 32, 64, 128, 256 and 512MB PC 66/100/133 SDRAM/VCM DIMM
Supports 16, 64, 128 and 256Mbits memory chips

sjeanine · « **Reply #12 on:** December 04, 2008, 11:16:08 PM »

I went to Crucial.com and did a scan and here is what it gave me:

Your Crucial System Scanner Results
Scan Id: DAD7CD4431D926C3

Our System Scanner couldn't make a complete match, but we can still help you find the right memory upgrade.
Please manually select your manufacturer, product line, and model from the drop-down lists below:

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Product Line: Select Product Line I can't find it.
Model: Select Model I can't find it.

We are here to help you find the right memory for your system.

Send us an e-mail
Scan ID Number: DAD7CD4431D926C3

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The following is a list of what our scan was able to detect:
System Manufacturer: NULL
System Model: Millennia
Motherboard Manufacturer: BCM
Motherboard Model: GT133KT

Your Computer Specifications

256 MB SDRAM, PC133 256 MB SDRAM, PC133
Maximum Memory Capacity: 524288 MB
Currently Installed Memory: 512 MB
Available Memory Slots: -1
Number of Banks: 1
Dual Channel Support: N.A.
CPU Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD
CPU Family: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor Model 4, Stepping 2
CPU Speed: 901 MHz

sjeanine · « **Reply #13 on:** December 04, 2008, 11:19:08 PM »

I dont understand what any of the specs mean. I dont know anything about computers except how to type on them, basically. I can get around ok but I am hoping you all can give me some advice and walk me thru things. Is it worth trying to update, in your opinion? I mean, I'd like to upgrade it as far as it can be...if possible. Thanks.

Broni · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2008, 11:26:05 PM »

E-mail them. It looks like the scan gives enough info.
Include this:

Quote

Scan ID Number: DAD7CD4431D926C3

The following is a list of what our scan was able to detect:
System Manufacturer: NULL
System Model: Millennia
Motherboard Manufacturer: BCM
Motherboard Model: GT133KT

Your Computer Specifications

256 MB SDRAM, PC133 256 MB SDRAM, PC133
Maximum Memory Capacity: 524288 MB
Currently Installed Memory: 512 MB
Available Memory Slots: -1
Number of Banks: 1
Dual Channel Support: N.A.
CPU Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD
CPU Family: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor Model 4, Stepping 2
CPU Speed: 901 MHz

Currently, you have 2x256MB=512MB of RAM installed.
You'll need identical type of RAM, but 2 sticks of 512MB=1GB

johnha169 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2008, 03:57:09 AM »

hi, why not just get an internal or external HDD, then u can move all your files to the new HDD and then your computer will hopefull get faster!
cheers

Accessless · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2008, 06:22:16 AM »

If the machine is 6-7 years old then I asume that the OS (operating system (Windows)) has been operating for the same length of time. You may also consider some free maintenance programs to increase the machines performance. I personaly prefer IO BIT but there are many others out there.

Here's a good Disk defragmentor (if the one built into windows no longer funtions or is too slow):

http://www.download.com/Smart-Defrag/3000-2094-10759533.html?part=dl-SmartDefr&subj=uo&tag=button

And This is a registry cleaning program (saving you a £50 trip to the computer shop):

http://www.download.com/Advanced-WindowsCare-Personal/3000-2086-10407614.html?part=dl-AdvancedW&subj=uo&tag=button

killerb255 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 06, 2008, 11:43:29 PM »

Also consider possibilities of bloatware (useless programs that come with downloaded or installed programs that) or malware (viruses, spyware, adware, etc.). They can slow your PC down, too.

Not a whole lot will run like a champ on a 900 MHz Athlon processor these days.

The most amount of RAM your computer will run is 1024 MB (1 GB). You would have to remove the two existing 256 MB RAM sticks and put two 512 MB sticks in its place.

You would need two of these doohickeys:
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT64M64S4D7E

Total cost: $108.99 + shipping.

You're probably better off getting a new computer. 4 GB of RAM for most computers these days is $108.99...

Not to mention, the maximum processor for that computer is 1 GHz (1000 MHz). The processor in it is 900 MHz. Modern PCs have processors with 2 cores (like 2 processors in one) or even 4 cores at 2.4 GHz a piece!!!

Given that information, I can honestly say upgrading your existing computer is just throwing money away...

sjeanine · « **Reply #18 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:59:10 AM »

Thanks so much for all the advice here. Ok, I finally am going to admit that it is time to throw out the old computer rather than try and upgrade it. : ( I do not have the money to buy another new one. I just got a cheapie dell from Walmart this past summer. I am a stay at home mom who homeschools my son and I work 4 p/t jobs. I was trying to find a way to keep that old pc running so he could play some games on it. But, it sounds like I would be throwing money away that I could save towards another cheap computer...which would actually be better than the old PC. My older son keeps telling me he can rebuild it and make it a much better PC and that I'm nuts to save to buy another but, it sounds like it's time to just tell him I'm laying it to rest.

Calum · « **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2008, 09:09:19 AM »

I'd say the same as your son, but I'm one of those that never junks things unless it's absolutely beyond repair, sometimes not even then.
Too many people just throw away perfectly good computers, I have several that are older than yours working perfectly fine.

soybean · « **Reply #20 on:** December 07, 2008, 10:14:21 AM »

Per the Disney website, the system requirements for Toontown:

System Requirements
Windows
System RAM    256 MB
Disc Space    200 MB
CPU    800 MHz
OS    Win2K
Video Card    32 MB

I'd bet that computer would run that game well enough if some maintenance were done. Do you have any spyware removal tools installed, and regularly used, on that computer? Any virus protection installed? Ever defragment the hard drive? Ever run Disk Cleanup, or clear browser history? You have a firewall enabled, right?

Accessless · « **Reply #21 on:** December 07, 2008, 11:23:29 AM »

Quote from: Calum on December 07, 2008, 09:09:19 AM

I'd say the same as your son, but I'm one of those that never junks things unless it's absolutely beyond repair, sometimes not even then.
Too many people just throw away perfectly good computers, I have several that are older than yours working perfectly fine.

I had to throw away some of my oldies a little while back. I almost cried at the loss of my Pentium II and ancient motherboard with the most beautiful copper work that I've ever seen on a PCB. But alas I only have a certain amount of storage space.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #22 on:** December 07, 2008, 11:27:40 AM »

So far, I've scrapped 5 computers:

my 12Mhz 286, 40Mhz 386DX, 120Mhz 486DX2, a pentium whose on-board graphics failed, and a crappy cyrix (do I really need a reason to scrap a cyrix?)

keeping: AMD K6-2, Toshiba 440CDX laptop, IBM thinkpad 755CDV, and my newer machines (laptop and desktop)

killerb255 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 07, 2008, 10:41:30 PM »

Quote from: soybean on December 07, 2008, 10:14:21 AM

Per the Disney website, the system requirements for Toontown:

System Requirements
Windows
System RAM    256 MB
Disc Space    200 MB
CPU    800 MHz

This is the problem...

Her machine is an Athlon 900 MHz. Yes, it'll run, but if there's anything else running in the background, forget it...

Quote from: sjeanine on December 07, 2008, 07:59:10 AM

Thanks so much for all the advice here. Ok, I finally am going to admit that it is time to throw out the old computer rather than try and upgrade it. : ( I do not have the money to buy another new one. I just got a cheapie dell from Walmart this past summer. I am a stay at home mom who homeschools my son and I work 4 p/t jobs.

Wow! :bows while saying "We're not worthy!":

Quote

I was trying to find a way to keep that old pc running so he could play some games on it. But, it sounds like I would be throwing money away that I could save towards another cheap computer...which would actually be better than the old PC. My older son keeps telling me he can rebuild it and make it a much better PC and that I'm nuts to save to buy another but, it sounds like it's time to just tell him I'm laying it to rest.

I used to think like your older son. In fact, that's how I got in the computer industry!

That would have been okay back in the late 90s, early 00s. However, new PCs have become so cheap (yes, even decent ones, not bottom-of-the-barrel eMachines) and a lot of things have changed since the Athlon 900 MHz days (different RAM, different CPU socket, different power supply requirements, case needs better airflow, PCI-e graphics cards instead of AGP, etc.) that by time your son is done with it, he would have bought enough parts to built a new computer and have used nothing from the existing one!

I learned that lesson the hard way in 2004 when a client's hard drive in their Windows 98 machine died. I thought "hey, buy a new hard drive, reinstall Windows 98 and her programs, and all is well." Oh nooooooo...

The motherboard had a hard time recognizing an 80 GB hard drive, so I had to go back to get a 40 GB. For some reason, it complained about that, too. All in all, I spent roughly 12 hours trying to get that thing back to the way it was, and since the company charged by the hour, the amount of labor added up to a new computer! They weren't happy with me then...we had to eat a lot of the cost of that...

truenorth · « **Reply #24 on:** December 09, 2008, 05:25:59 PM »

sjeanine, Given your extremely limited use requirements for the computer your son uses for his games you can try to achieve this by doing some very inexpensive things. While it has been mentioned that you could install another hardrive to transfer the data you wish to save there is a much cheaper way to do that.Purchase a USB flash drive (assuming the computer has USB ports) and remove all the data that you want to save and either retain it on the flash drive or transfer it to another computer. The already suggested notion of getting everything off the computer other than what is necessary for your son to be able to play his games is absolutely the way to go. Increasing the ram will additionally improve performance but that is more costly and might not be cost effective on that old of a computer. Now another option up until now not mentioned is to purchase a used computer for your son's gaming use. They can be extremely cheap depending on where you purchase them. Retail stores selling used computers will be the most expensive. Friends and garage sales can be very cheap. Classified adds in print media or on line can also find cheap used PC's. You should try to find a source for a used one where it can be shown to work--so on line purchases can be more risky in that case. I have purchased many used computers (working and not working) and after a little work and normally very little money have fine working computers. That route is not for everyone but it is an option worth considering given your stated limited funds. goodluck,truenorth

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