A note of caution (if you haven't already been affected) Microsoft has recently (in my case yesterday) included in it's updates a security download for the above software. The end result of downloading this file is that you may well lose access to using Excel (and maybe more for all i know). Solutions are available on the internet however it will require a modification to your computer registry (in case that makes you uncomfortable). This "cure" may be worse than the disease.truenorth