Maybe someone can help clear the confusion up on what I'm doing wrong

[BC_Programmer]

are you trying to prove that CSS doesn't even exist or what?

any of the MS office programs can save their documents as HTML files.

I know you all keep saying it will take months to learn the stuff, which please, I already know how to create websites. I'm not just beginning. I've been doing them since 1995.

No- knowing how to create websites and knowing HTML itself are two completely different things. Like I said before your pages are typical of what you can see on the free web hosts (geocities, angelfire, Tripod, etc).

Now you insist on posting the same thing over and over again that we've already explained; like I said, it's as if your trying to prove Cascading Stylesheets don't exist, which is not something your going to convince me or kpac of in the near future.

[AmyR7]

Yes, but I don't have any Cascading Style Sheets and don't have anything that will allow me to make one either.
The only thing I was trying to get a little help on back around July/August is this tables allignment issue, and someone starts saying something about CSS codes?
Then say it's external. No wonder I can't find any in my computer if they are external, means not in the computer, isnt that right?
Sorry if you thought I'm trying to convince anyone that whatever these CSS things are don't exisit.
If I am doing something wrong, I have to first understand what is wrong, and everytime I've tried anything different with the codes, it doesn't work at all.
Plus the other thing i don't understand, when I hit view source, on like every website out there, it has tables for the layout. I'm still not understanding why all of a sudden we can't put a table on the sites anymore. My assignments had us do that, and had us use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access(which I don't have anymore, was only a trial version and would have to pay if I wanted it anymore). I do think I have Microsoft Frontpage on the computer, plus I have a scanner. Is that the CSS thing? The scanner? That is the only other thing I can think of since it's external.

But at the moment I'm just under so much stress and all with all this, and scared my sites are all going to all break one day too. I don't know how to fix the stuff. I've read all over and everything I try messes it up and stuff.
We already have a domain, Bellsouth is our Isp.

[kpac]

Yes, but I don't have any Cascading Style Sheets and don't have anything that will allow me to make one either.

Notepad.

Like I said, visit W3Schools. You need to start from the beginning if you want to do it right.

[AmyR7]

Yes, but the teacher wants us to use Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint for our assignments. Not notepad.
I can't even get that w3school site to come up for me anyways. I keep trying and it says it's not available on my server.
I even asked my nephew who was over the other day to help, and he is taking a class and doing web page design, and he has never heard of CSS either. He uses Microsoft Word also in his class right now, same as I did too.
Here is the class I take, the site is here, and you will see how the assignments are based on Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, all that stuff
http://acc.pjc.edu/~llemley/
Here is the direct link for the assignments
http://uwf.edu/clemley/cgs1570w/assignment.htm

The other big thing too is Notepad doesn't have a spellchecker or anything like that built into it, and I can't add any pictures or anything. It wont allow me to change the fonts or anything like that like the other software will allow you to change stuff like that. The other software has buttons you click and choose from the drop down list to change the stuff and check.
I did start from the beginning years ago when I started creating the websites. That is why I would like someone to please answer a few questions for me, if the codes are wrong, why are my pictures, and everything else showing up on the site where I put them? Back when I first started learning to make sites, the pictures and stuff did not show up right, and I got lots of help from people until the codes were correct.

I'm sorry, I don't understand and I just want to kill myself right now.
I'm going to kill myself now.

[BC_Programmer]

you're not learning to make web pages in those courses. That's computer applications/concepts- you're learning to use the program in general.

The other big thing too is Notepad doesn't have a spellchecker or anything like that built into it, and I can't add any pictures or anything. It wont allow me to change the fonts or anything like that like the other software will allow you to change stuff like that.

there may not be a spellchecker, but basic, beginner-level HTML tags include FONT and IMG, which will change your fonts and include images, respectively.

you're other queries regarding the "codes" working/not working has been answered at least once.

Additionally- once last thing that reaffirms that these classes are not web design courses would not only be the lack of using either notepad, dreamweaver or... *shudder* frontpage, but additionally that Office 2000 was the first version to include the ability to even save a document/spreadsheet/presentation as a web page.

[kpac]

Darn BC. I was nearly finished this long, long post. I'll post it anyway.

and he has never heard of CSS either. He uses Microsoft Word also in his class right now, same as I did too.
Here is the class I take, the site is here, and you will see how the assignments are based on Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, all that stuff

CSS is an important part of web design. I don't mean to be insulting, but I wouldn't call someone a web designer if they've never heard of CSS, let alone used it.

The other big thing too is Notepad doesn't have a spellchecker or anything like that built into it, and I can't add any pictures or anything. It wont allow me to change the fonts or anything like that like the other software will allow you to change stuff like that. The other software has buttons you click and choose from the drop down list to change the stuff and check.

To become a skilled, professional web designer, you need to do it the right way. A "WYSIWYG" editor is not the way to do that. Using Notepad is the best way to become good at designing. You have control of what you are doing. An editor like Dreamweaver or Frontpage inserts unwanted and useless code into the page which makes things non-future proof, browser incompatibale, and increases page load times.

if the codes are wrong, why are my pictures, and everything else showing up on the site where I put them? Back when I first started learning to make sites, the pictures and stuff did not show up right, and I got lots of help from people until the codes were correct.

I think I explained this already. When you don't code your site properly, the browser basically guesses what it thinks is right and displays it the way it sees fit. This is another way to slow down load times.

[AmyR7]

Sorry if I asked for any help here. I thought it would be a place I could get a bit of help on some of my questions.
Sorry, I'm not understanding what you mean about some of the things the codes not working right.
Yes, I know how to put a picture on a page, using the image tag.
<img src="jtt.jpg">
I also understand how to do the fonts by typing out
<font></font>
to bold something

italics

Paragraph
<p></p>
links, urls,
<a>[/url]
center
<center></center>
blink
<blink></blink>
<html></html>
<css></css>
<div></div>
<title></title>
<body></body>
<table></table>
<frames></frames>
Is anything wrong with the codes above?
I have the starting and closing tags above.

Like I said, I give up, I am not doing this for a job or anything either. With my health I can't work anyways. I'm on disability. So, I don't even have the expensive money to get all the stuff needed.
If we aren't learning to create a website, do we need to know CSS to use the internet? I don't see why we need to understand it if we aren't actually creating a web page. Just going to other sites and communicating through email and everything, and the browsers.

[BC_Programmer]

I work in a coffee/donut shop.

[kpac]

All of your codes are right, except <a> and [/url]

<a> is right, but [url] is forum BBCode.

Code: [Select]

<a href="http://www.starlite-media.com/">My Site!</a>

If we aren't learning to create a website, do we need to know CSS to use the internet? I don't see why we need to understand it if we aren't actually creating a web page. Just going to other sites and communicating through email and everything, and the browsers.

CSS isn't neccesary. But, it saves a lot of hassle, and is relatively easy to learn. It is the way forward.

[AmyR7]

Computer Hope Forum
Yes, I always thought that was the correct way to type out a url. I don't understand what is wrong with that.
Our isp is bellsouth, so our domain, is bellsouth. Why do we need to change anything or dump them?
One place I do have to use spellcheckers for is I create quizzes on sites like funtrivia.
They say please always use a spellchecker.
Both me and my mom read the definition of CSS, but she doesn't understand it either.
Then when it says external file, doesn't that mean it's not even in the computer? That is what I thought external meant? See today, my mom is picking up an external hard drive so that we can back up everything on my computer due to all the hacking and stuff.
That is another reason my notepad program isn't working anymore. Last time I tried to use it, someone tries hacking through it and typing over my stuff. Yes, that is what started happening. Some other strange thing started coming through, something like someone was trying to write someone a message about a bill. Sounded sort of like they were trying to send a message to their lawyer, because it said your honor in it.

One thing my mom mentioned to me on maybe what you mean about CSS being easier, is she said she could do her bookkeeping on the computer, but with all the problems computers have, if the computer was down for any reason, then you can't get your work done.
One of the other things I noticed below, is you mentioned how the Microsoft Office programs do allow you to save things as webpage/html format, which yes, we did do that in the class. The page I sent you, was just some of the stuff we did, but not all. Alot of the assignments had us save it as a webpage and then open it up in the webbrowser to view it. We had to download templates, all that stuff. It was an online computer class.
See, I also want to someday learn how to make a computer game, but I actually saw how much this one class cost, and I guess I don't want to learn that bad. It cost like $4,000.00 to take the class. I'm trying to figure out why it costs that much.
I read this other site actually about Javascript stuff, and looks like I did that too already in the class, and didn't even realize that until now. I was reading stuff about javascript and it's talking about if statements. Which we did stuff like that.

[AmyR7]

I keep having problems getting that site to load properly.

The thing I'm still trying to figure out, here is some other pages on assignments I had to do in the class. If anyone gets a chance, and see if you can get to them and help me understand, am I misunderstanding something here?
http://uwf.edu/clemley/cgs1570w/notes/06%20-%20create_webpage_using_word.htm

http://uwf.edu/clemley/cgs1570w/notes/13%20-%20create_webpages_using_excel.htm

I thought those assignments above, were creating web pages. Was it not?

Plus like I mentioned in my previous post, we also had to download design templates.
It was also an online computer class, and we had this interactive Cd that had labs and stuff on it to do too.
The only other big problem that happened is the class caused my whole computer to get hacked, and it's still having a terrible time due to the spyware and stuff that came through with the download of AIM. That was one of the first assignments, was to download AIM, and someone installed an MBKWBar Toolbar in my Internet Explorer. Then every time I opened up Internet Explorer, I would get flooded with all these pop up ads, which would crash the computer and freeze it up.

That was the first time me and my mom both heard of spyware and all that stuff. I did have Norton Anti virus then too. We had heard of viruses though, but spyware was new to both of us. We called a computer repairman. That is how we learned about the spyware. The only other problem is he said something about try not to use Internet Explorer, but I had to use it for the class since it was online. He put Mozilla on the computer, but that browser wouldn't work for the class. I couldn't get the chat room to work with Mozilla. Since it was online class, we had to go to a chat room every Wednesday night for part of the class participation.

Right now, I'm having to reformat my whole computer. I found a friend who is able to help me with everything. So far, none of the repairmen we have hired has been able to help get things working right, and then keep messing other stuff up too, like usernames and passwords. Accounts I use to be able to get into before the repairmen worked on my computer, I can no longer get into anymore. It says windows doesn't recognize the screen names anymore. Any reason as to why that would happen?

[kpac]

There are numerous tutorials available on the net.

Google
Google

You keep telling us that you have spyware and virus problems, but I have already told you a way to get rid of them. Also, this thread is now getting off topic. Create a new topic in the Virus and Spyware section to address your problem and keep all chat about it in there.

[AmyR7]

First, sorry about getting the getting off topic.

anyways, I think I figured out some of the confusion going on. I did find this one site I was able to get to come up and talking about stylesheets for mobile phones. No wonder I'm confused on all this stuff.
I don't have a mobile phone in the first place.
I don't even have a cellphone either. It's talking about iphones also, at this site I found below. Then decided that maybe I'd find some more information if I type in css is used for mobile phones and found some more stuff that clears up the whole problem.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/returnofthemobilestylesheet

I don't even have a laptop or notebook or one of those netbook computers I keep seeing. All I have is a desktop.

[kpac]

Okay. Let's start from the top.

anyways, I think I figured out some of the confusion going on. I did find this one site I was able to get to come up and talking about stylesheets for mobile phones.

Stylesheets for mobile devices are different, so don't confuse them.

I don't have a mobile phone in the first place.
I don't even have a cellphone either.

Same thing. They're just called cell phones in the US.

It's talking about iphones also, at this site I found below.

The iPhone is just a cell phone (or mobile phone) created by Apple.

I don't even have a laptop or notebook or one of those netbook computers I keep seeing. All I have is a desktop.

It's still a PC.

[AmyR7]

Yes, I understand that iPhone is also a cell phone.
I don't have any type of cell phones.
my mom has one.

yes, i understand a desktop is a PC. about a year or so ago we switched from just regular dial up internet with Earthlink to Bellsouth DSL. My nephew and his dad came over and did all the setup of everything. The router and modem are both actually on my computer and we have wired network, going out to my mom's computer. Of course we ran into so many problems getting things working. We had Bellsouth working on my computer, but my mom's wouldn't connect. Then of course we went through so much stuff people kept telling us to do to the computers, and it had nothing to do with the computers at all. It turned out to be something wrong with the wiring in the wall. The technician my mom called got it working.