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    Hi all,

    First of all, FANTASTIC forums and website here!


    Well after almost a week of banging my head on the wall to get Vista off my new laptop (HP DV5-1140tx) I've finally got XP installed up to SP3 level (slipstreamed disk was SP2, download of SP3 fixed a number of driver issues).

    My problem now is that I can't get sound.  The sound card is integrated into the motherboard and doesn't have it's own driver, and the Intel website doesn't have a driver for it (I do know what chipset I have, although that's not really helpful in this case it seems).  The HP website has a driver for it, but that's for Vista and doesn't work (I tried it).

    I can't find any suitable driver on the MS website.  Having said that, when I start my computer Windows knows that there's some sound hardware there but can never find the drivers for it - and I've just run out of places to look.

    It appears that there's two items in Devices that are having issues:

    1.  IDT High Definition Audio CODEC (listed as "Device Cannot Start")

    2.  Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus (listed as "The Device is not Configured Correctly")


    I'm so close, and am actually feeling rather happy that I've managed to conquer this challenge so far - but now i'm just at a total loss.  Could it be that there simply is no suitable driver and I'm forced to go back to Vista for sound?  Or is there somewhere I haven't looked - or a driver I haven't identified correctly?

    I've done an Everest scan although that doesn't give me much in the way of clues - I can post some results from that scan if it helps?

    Any advice on how to solve this problem would be fantastic (I've done a lot of searching already).

    Cheers all,
    Mark


    P.S.  In case it means something, there's also another three items in Devices with issues, noted under "Other Devices":  three of them are just listed as "Base System Device", and the last is "Unknown Device".

    I've tried using Driver Detective to figure out what they are but can't really tell, and I've read so many negative reviews about that software that I'm very hesitant to part with the money for it.
    « Last Edit: April 09, 2009, 04:49:42 PM by Mark747 »

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    Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
    « Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 04:56:01 PM »
    Oh, my. I would like to help. But my kind of help is seldom welcome here. I am the one who is going to tell you what you already know. You are on an uphill climb.
    I once posted on this forum this topic:
    'You can swim with sharks, but you can not put XP on a Vista Laptop.'

    And I got reasons why you may or may not fool the sharks. But many seemed to think installing XP was just a matter of getting few drivers. Well, swimming with the sharks is really much easier. Sharks make shards of fingers or toes,  but Installation of XP on a VISTA only laptop blows brains!
    Now watch, here come the software sharks. They will insisste that the XP instalation is not that hard!  8)

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      Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
      « Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 05:06:30 PM »
      Howdy,

      You're right, it's a "steep" uphill climb.  But having said that I'm near the top, and everything seems to be running wonderfully except the sound.

      So if anyone has some input on that it would be much appreciated!

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      Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
      « Reply #3 on: April 09, 2009, 05:56:31 PM »
      Now watch, here come the software sharks. They will insisste that the XP instalation is not that hard!  8)


      After doing it myself three times with two friends laptops and more recently my own, I am yet to discover what you are rambling on about.


      regarding the current issue I had to search around for the audio drivers for XP 64 for my laptop (the XP32 and Vista ones were right on the site, just like all the other laptops I've downgraded.

      for your sound driver first you'll need this:

      ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp33501-34000/sp33867.exe


      And then install the driver:


      http://downloadmirror.intel.com/13706/eng/AUD_allOS_5790.3x_5713.7v_PV_IDTGUI_v83.exe

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      It is. IF we're lucky, they are all on the manufacturers site- if not, we need to go to the actual hardware vendors themselves.
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        Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
        « Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 06:24:28 PM »
        Hi BC,

        The first file seemed to install fine, although I did note that it was for WinXP SP2, whereas I'm on SP3.

        The second file started its process and threw up the error (box title was "Configuration IDT Audio Driver and Applications") :


        _ExitError: Error=Device Object not present, restart the system and run setup again


        I've restarted and run setup again without luck.
        I'm trying to backtrack from your links to find the first tile which relates to SP3, but no luck.
        And the second file I gather is from the Intel site, although I just can't figure out what category it's from.

        Any further assistance would be much appreciated.
        Thanks again,
        Mark

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        Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
        « Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 06:30:27 PM »
        alright, try th UAA bus driver here:


        http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/SOUND-CARD/OTHER-SOUNDCARDS/Microsoft-UAA-Bus-Driver-for-High-Definition-Audio.shtml


        note that XP drivers for SP2 will work fine in SP3.

        try the second driver link again- it might work after installing this UAA driver.


        the description page for the second link is here.
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          Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
          « Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 06:32:21 PM »
          Some additional information - after the attempted install of the above files, I tried having Windows install the drivers via the Device Manager section.  There was a big yellow question mark next to the High Def Audio Bus so I attempted to load the drivers, it appears to download and start installation, although gave an error of:

          This Device Cannot Start. (Code 10)


          Hopefully that means something to someone.

          By the way, I'm not just blindly waiting for answers here (although I'd appreciate assistance from those more knowledgable than me), but when I get new errors or information I'm searching my behind off for a solution.  Just thought I'd throw that in so you know I'm not leeching off everyone. Cheers all.


          EDIT:  I see you've posted again while I've been typing, will try those new links and report back.

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            Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
            « Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 07:24:27 PM »
            Same problem again with the new download file.
            I'm now at a loss.

            Do you think it matters that the second file you've listed is supposed to be for a desktop machine?
            I'm using a laptop.  Not sure of exact motherboard type, although i know the chipset if that helps.

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            Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
            « Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 08:26:34 PM »
            Can you give us the Everest report?

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              Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
              « Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 09:35:10 PM »
              Hi JJ,

              Here's the Everest report.  Luckily perhaps, I have a second completely identical laptop (my partners) which has Vista still on it untouched - if you'd like me to do a similar report on that one just let me know as it might have a bit more information.

              Oh, and with regards to the latest UAA file for Windows XP, I believe the latest version is 1.0a, a file called "kb888111xpsp2" , which I've already installed.  Just throwing that bit of info in in case it's relevant.



              Here's the Everest report you requested:

              --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------

                  Version                                           EVEREST v2.20.405
                  Homepage                                          http://www.lavalys.com/
                  Report Type                                       Quick Report
                  Computer                                          C3P0
                  Generator                                         Mark
                  Operating System                                  Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
                  Date                                              2009-04-10
                  Time                                              13:30


              --------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  Computer:
                    Operating System                                  Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
                    OS Service Pack                                   Service Pack 3
                    DirectX                                           4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
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                    Motherboard Name                                  Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dv5 Notebook PC
                    Motherboard Chipset                               Unknown
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                    USB2 Controller                                   Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C [NoDB]
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                Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                « Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 09:38:38 PM »
                A bit more info and or questions:

                - Will it help to try reinstalling the graphics drivers from the Intel site - will they have an audio compenent to them?  I've got a dedicated graphics card though, so not sure what use that will be.

                - There's no setting in my BIOS for activating onboard functionality that I can find.  Bugger.


                UPDATE: tried installing the graphics drivers for my mobile motherboard (I assume it was the correct board) and it said my computer didn't meet the minimum requirements.
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                  Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                  « Reply #11 on: April 09, 2009, 10:11:01 PM »
                  Here's the Everest report for the VISTA machine we have (identical laptop - bought at same time).  There's a few differences, not sure if it'll help though:

                  --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------

                      Version                                           EVEREST v2.20.405
                      Homepage                                          http://www.lavalys.com/
                      Report Type                                       Quick Report
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                      Generator                                         My womans name...
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                      Date                                              2009-04-10
                      Time                                              14:05


                  --------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                      Computer:
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                        User Name                                         My womans name...

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                        CPU Type                                          Intel Pentium III Xeon, 2533 MHz (7 x 362)
                        Motherboard Name                                  Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dv5 Notebook PC
                        Motherboard Chipset                               Unknown
                        System Memory                                     3068 MB
                        BIOS Type                                         Insyde (09/18/08)

                      Display:
                        Video Adapter                                     GeForce 9600M GT
                        Video Adapter                                     GeForce 9600M GT
                        Monitor                                           Generic PnP Monitor [NoDB]

                      Multimedia:
                        Audio Adapter                                     High Definition Audio Controller [NoDB]

                      Storage:
                        IDE Controller                                    Intel(R) ICH9M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller
                        IDE Controller                                    JMB38X MS Host Controller
                        IDE Controller                                    JMB38X SD Host Controller
                        IDE Controller                                    JMB38X SD/MMC Host Controller
                        IDE Controller                                    JMB38X xD Host Controller
                        SCSI/RAID Controller                              Microsoft iSCSI Initiator
                        Disk Drive                                        WDC WD3200BEVT-60ZCT1  (298 GB, IDE)
                        Disk Drive                                        TOSHIBA TransMemory USB Device  (7 GB, USB)
                        Optical Drive                                     Optiarc DVD RW AD-7581S
                        SMART Hard Disks Status                           OK

                      Partitions:
                        C: (NTFS)                                         295420 MB (264830 MB free)
                        D: (NTFS)                                         9820 MB (1748 MB free)
                        Total Size                                        298.1 GB (260.3 GB free)

                      Input:
                        Keyboard                                          Microsoft eHome MCIR 109 Keyboard
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                        Keyboard                                          Microsoft eHome Remote Control Keyboard keys
                        Keyboard                                          Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB
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                        Mouse                                             Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad

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                        Network Adapter                                   Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
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                        Modem                                             Agere Systems HDA Modem

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                        USB2 Controller                                   Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A [NoDB]
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                    Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                    « Reply #12 on: April 09, 2009, 10:40:39 PM »
                    Again, just in case it helps, here's a copy of my Device Manager...  (I checked the rules for the forum, didn't mention anything about not posting images... sorry if I've got that wrong.)




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                      Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                      « Reply #13 on: April 10, 2009, 12:56:47 AM »
                      Another query: how many drivers should I be searching for?

                      My research has come across this diagram from MS:




                      So I gather that I need:

                      1.  A driver for the UAA HD Audio Class Driver portion, and

                      2.  A driver for the HD Audio Bus Driver portion (I believe that's the KB888111 file, which I got from MS and on installation it said I already had a newer version), and

                      3.  A CODEC of some description.


                      Does anyone know if the above is correct? 
                      Is 1 and 2 actually a combined driver?
                      I'm just not sure which company supplies which driver...

                      Apparently my system isn't on the AC'97 standard either, but something newer.  Perhaps there's just not a driver available for me...

                      Again, any assistance appreciated.  Thanks guys for the help so far.

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                        Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                        « Reply #14 on: April 10, 2009, 01:22:17 AM »
                        I downloaded the IDT HD Audio CODEC from here:

                        http://download.cnet.com/IDT-High-Definition-Audio-CODEC/3000-2110_4-169457.html


                        Still no joy.
                        It did load after I pointed the Update Driver process to it (and I almost jumped for joy), although the result is this:




                        I gather the codec would be fine if the hardware would just setup properly - does that sound right?
                        I'm further assuming that if the MS UAA HD Audio driver has told me it couldn't install due to it being up to date already, then all that's really left is some kind of hardware driver.

                        So that's probably an Intel thing given that I've got an integrated sound "thingo" on the processor/motherboard (sorry if I'm not technically correct - computer internals aren't my strong point).  There's no standalone sound card in my machine.  But... which driver do I need for this - if I'm correct.

                        The search continues...


                        I'll say it again... any assistance here would be so far beyond fantastic...  hehe

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                        Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                        « Reply #15 on: April 10, 2009, 11:10:07 AM »
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                        My problem now is that I can't get sound.  The sound card is integrated into the motherboard and doesn't have it's own driver, and the Intel website doesn't have a driver for it (I do know what chipset I have, although that's not really helpful in this case it seems).  The HP website has a driver for it, but that's for Vista and doesn't work (I tried it).
                        Can you tell us the chipset? What Intel mobo number?
                        Maybe I can explore the intel site for you. No charge.

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                          Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                          « Reply #16 on: April 10, 2009, 01:52:44 PM »
                          Howdy,
                          Just away with family for Easter, will be back in a day to report a little more.
                          Thanks for the offer - much appreciated!
                          Cheers,
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                            Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                            « Reply #17 on: April 11, 2009, 05:54:17 PM »
                            Hi again all,

                            I'm wondering if perhaps it's not an Intel chip/board driver I should be after, but a specific sound board driver.  As best I can tell my sound card is integrated into the motherboard, so I assumed it was Intel.  But from all the reading I've done I'm not convinced that's the case.

                            So now I'm trying to confirm what type of sound card I actually have, integrated or otherwise.
                            Here's a picture of our second laptop with Vista still on it, showing the "Sound Device" entries (this is in the "System Information" part of Windows).



                            (Ignore the Bluetooth entries, I don't believe they matter.)

                            So this is a bit odd... the nvidia graphics card (not integrated) handles some of the HDMI sound.  I've uninstalled and reinstalled the nvidia drivers for XP, and they've gone in fine.  No problems noted.  And there was a section for HDMI audio - confirmed no issues with installation.

                            But there's also an IDT (www.idt.com) entry, although I can't find any drivers on their website.  Having said that, the picture above shows it as being a CODEC, which I didn't think was hardware as such. 

                            So do I have an IDT brand sound card?  Or is it actually Intel?  Or is it actually nvidia?


                            Oh man...  haha    I'm going so insane with this...


                            Additionally, here's something I found on the Intel website - check out the link, it's a quick read...
                            http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-009244.htm

                            -  I have the KB888111.exe file installed, and the MS UAA drivers all appear to be functioning properly and without issue;
                            -  I assume I have an Intel motherboard, but I can't ID exactly which one;
                            -  Device Manager shows me as having chipset : Mobile Intel(R) 45 Express Chipset Series


                            Having read this page though, perhaps there's just not a driver for XP available.
                            Or... am I still just not looking in the right place.

                            Thanks again guys.
                            M

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                            Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                            « Reply #18 on: April 11, 2009, 07:55:29 PM »
                            We need information about which model you have.
                            HP Pavilion dv5 Notebook PC
                            Is this it?
                            http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-3744188.html

                            Can you locate your Laptop on the HP site? The drivers are on the site, but we need the specific information about which model it was and what features it had.

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                              Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                              « Reply #19 on: April 11, 2009, 08:55:44 PM »
                              Howdy,

                              HP Pavilion DV5-1140tx Special Edition.
                              The drivers are on the site but are only for Vista, so that's not been much help unfortunately.

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                              Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                              « Reply #20 on: April 11, 2009, 10:39:25 PM »
                              Here is the list of drivers in the VISTA install of DV5-1140tx
                              http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=2093&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3842189

                              Any of these models may not have a full XP list of drivers because it was not shipped with XP. However, models in this series, or similar earlier models had been shipped with XP and there are drivers for XP.

                              The chipset is one of these:
                              Chipset Northbridge:
                              AMD M770 chipset, ATI
                              Radeon HD 3450 graphics
                              Northbridge: AMD M780G chipset, ATI
                              Radeon HD 3200 graphics
                              Southbridge: AMD SB700
                              Northbridge: Intel PM45
                              Southbridge: Intel ICH9M

                              Possible earlier models may be:
                              dv5-1000 / dv5-1002 / dv5-1003 /
                              dv5-1004 / dv5-1010 / dv5-1015 /
                              dv5-1017 / dv5-1022 /

                              I found this in the maintenance manual.
                              Rather that taking wild guess atre what audio chip it is, it is beeter to search inside the HP site for an warlier model that may have the same shipset, at least for the audio portion. If any moody wants to help, take a look
                              It looks like NONE of these were shipped with XP. Does anybody know for surte?

                              Sorry, this is the best I do for now. I do not think you will find the drivers from In tell. The board is a custom design.

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                                Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                « Reply #21 on: April 12, 2009, 03:42:02 PM »
                                I hadn't thought of going back to earlier models for the drivers - good one.

                                A few quick queries on what you've posted above please:

                                -  How did you come up with the list of possible chipsets below?  Is that what you meant about checking the maintenance manual.
                                -  I gather the 45 Express Chipset listed in my Device Manager isn't correct - or is ambiguous?
                                -  When you say the board is a custom design, can you explain what you mean as it relates to my computer?


                                Thanks again.
                                I'm still working on it.

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                                  Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                  « Reply #22 on: April 12, 2009, 05:14:30 PM »
                                  ok, I've found the online manual I believe you were talking about.  As I've got an Intel chip and not AMD, it seems that the chipsets I have are:

                                  Northbridge : Intel PM45
                                  Southbridge : Intel ICH9M

                                  From what I understand it's the Northbridge chip which handles the integrated cards, etc, so I'll focus on that for now.  Searching the Intel site, I find these relevant pages on this chip:

                                  http://www.intel.com/products/notebook/chipsets/pm45/pm45-overview.htm
                                  http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=35515

                                  Further searching for drivers at Intel relating to my chip shows this page, which says the chipset is supported in XP:

                                  http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/mobile/sb/CS-029626.htm
                                  It also confirms which mobile boards the chipset relates to.  There's links to each of the two boards listed, so I picked the first one (Intel® Mobile Board MGM45RM).

                                  (This may all seem obvious guys but it helps me to think it through...)


                                  Then clicked the "drivers" link, and selected XP Home as the Windows version for available downloadable files...
                                  One of the drivers was an Intel Mobile Board Integrated Audio Driver (it related to both motherboards, so it wouldn't have mattered if I'd picked the first or second one), and shows XP Home as being supported.  I've actually attempted to load this before, although given I'd installed and uninstalled so many things up to this point I did a fresh format and started again.

                                  So:
                                  1.  Format
                                  2.  Install KB888111.exe
                                  3.  Install Intel Mobile Board Integrated Audio Driver
                                  4.  Install the nvidia HDMI audio and graphics drivers


                                  RESULT...

                                  nothing.


                                  I'm going to try calling Intel, and hopefully not get a Bangladeshi who, while I'm sure will be very nice, probably won't fix my problem.

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                                  Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                  « Reply #23 on: April 12, 2009, 05:26:13 PM »
                                  Northbridge: Intel PM45
                                  Southbridge: Intel ICH9M

                                  That maybe another reference to the Intel chip above.

                                  here is a temporary linj to the manual. I will take this down later.

                                  http://help9pm.com/PDF/HP-c01550108.pdf

                                  (It is over 5MB)

                                  Even after a chip has been designed, forged and put in a carrier, a chip may have custom features that the customer, HP, may determine during assembly. This information  HP does not publish. They will have a driver written in-house and other companies will not be able to just copy the drivers for products they make with the same chip.  This gives HP some way to protect their intellectual rights in the marketplace. Here I want to explain that finding a driver for the particular chip is not a guarantee that it will fully perform. As for sound chips, one would think there would be little reason to customize them, because most  of the new stuff has to do with HDTV. But Hi Def also improves sound features.

                                  What you can home for is that an earlier Entertainment Laptop by HP used the exact same chip set and was shipped with XP Pro. In that case the is a sound driver somewhere as part of a install set, but not indexed as a separate item for download. So it would be there, but you can not find it in the search.

                                  If anybody has more information, please say something.
                                  This is driving us crazy. :P

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                                    Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                    « Reply #24 on: April 12, 2009, 06:04:03 PM »
                                    ok, understood.
                                    I've got the manual you posted, and as soon as I get back today I'll start searching as you've suggested.
                                    Cheers,
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                                      Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                      « Reply #25 on: April 13, 2009, 01:49:52 PM »
                                      I HAVE SOUND!!!!!

                                      I have to scoot to work, but will log on from there later today and update how I did it.
                                      It's not perfect yet, but it's a start...
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                                      Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                      « Reply #26 on: April 13, 2009, 05:00:34 PM »
                                      You never said you were looking for perfect sound..... ;D

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                                        Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                        « Reply #27 on: April 13, 2009, 05:49:30 PM »
                                        hehe... well it's almost perfect.

                                        So after reading many, many, MANY forums and posts about XP issues on Vista machines, I finally chanced across a thread where a user mentioned that he backed up the folder c:\SWsetup\  and everything in it - this was from his Vista OS before he wiped it.  One of those things was a folder named "Audio".  I went to my other Vista machine (identical laptop) and noticed in this folder that there were references to XP, so copied the folder over to my new XP machine, hit "setup.exe", ran through the motions (which oddly seemed very similar to things I'd done before... but anyway...), and then hit "restart machine" as instructed... 
                                        And to my great surprise I got the standard XP shutdown tune...!  I almost had a little accident...   haha

                                        I hadn't run any Windows Update previously (although on a prior installation test I did, and that wasn't the audio problem) so I did this and the touch buttons at the top of the keyboard started to work better.  They're not perfect, but acceptable for me.

                                        -  The mute button doesn't change colour, although works.
                                        -  The volume line doesn't make the sound as smoothly as it did in Vista, and doesn't increase or decrease the lighting as the volume is changed - but, the volume does change.
                                        -  I have a funny feeling the volume has a slight mind of its own, but I'm not sure yet.  Time will tell.


                                        And so there you have it!  The Vista computer had what I was looking for all along.  But, I don't know where to get this driver otherwise, so if you've already formatted your machine you'll need to put Vista back on it, save that folder mentioned above, then go back to an installation of XP and use that folder for the Audio driver requirements.


                                        And finally, a massive thanks to everyone who's posted in this thread!

                                        Cheers all,
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                                        Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                        « Reply #28 on: April 13, 2009, 05:51:51 PM »
                                        Good to hear you got that working.

                                        Chances are the lights and so forth that aren't functioning properly need special drivers. Honestly, I wouldn't bother.
                                        I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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                                          Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                          « Reply #29 on: April 13, 2009, 05:57:46 PM »
                                          I'm not sure that I will.  Having said that though, I've got a lot of momentum in searching for drivers at the moment and I don't really mind killing the rest of the day cleaning up the final odds and ends.


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                                          Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                          « Reply #30 on: April 13, 2009, 06:51:26 PM »
                                          HP does have XP software drivers for your keyboard, you might recall.

                                          Thanks for sharing that. Now we know. ;D

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                                            Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                            « Reply #31 on: April 28, 2009, 03:51:13 AM »
                                            Hi all,

                                            Sorry for any thread-nomancy,

                                            But i was just wondering if i could ask anyone here for a list of drivers for that said laptop (Dv5-1140tx) as i will be picking one up soon and honestly loathe vista.

                                            Cheers,
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                                              Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                              « Reply #32 on: April 29, 2009, 05:39:44 PM »
                                              Hi Nick,

                                              I'll check out what I loaded shortly... well probably within a few days.  I've got a nightmare week ahead of me so I'll try to get to it when I can.

                                              One thing I will say though, DO NOT wipe/format the HDD until you've backed up the Drivers folder from C:\ drive.  If you don't have that folder you won't have the drivers for sound - in all my searching I never found a suitable driver elsewhere (lucky my partner had the same computer which wasn't formatted yet!).

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                                                Re: Downgraded XP (SP3) can't find audio drivers (high def audio bus)
                                                « Reply #33 on: April 29, 2009, 06:04:40 PM »
                                                Hey Mark,

                                                Thanks for the reply.

                                                I shall do that in preparation good sir, and il be eagerly awainting your next post.

                                                Cheers,
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