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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2009, 09:20:02 AM »
for windows 3.1, just remove the IFSHLP line- I think that is wfwg specific.

No sooner said than done.

Thanks. I wasn't sure about that.

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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2009, 09:26:22 AM »
All I know is, I didn't see it until I installed WFWG in a VM. My thinkpad doesn't have it, and it has 3.11 (but not windows for workgroups)
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« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2009, 09:42:43 AM »
Wikipedia informs:

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IFSHLP.SYS (Installable File System Helper) is an MS-DOS device driver included with Microsoft Windows. It enables Windows to make direct file system calls bypassing MS-DOS methods and use native 32-bit file access for both local and network devices.

IFSHLP first shipped with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and was also used in Windows 9x.

The purpose of the IFS Helper is to ensure that no 3rd-party drivers intercept INT 21H calls; to achieve this, the IFSHLP.SYS is ensured to be the first in the driver chain that intercepts DOS file access. If no other real-mode drivers are installed, IFSHLP will report that to the the IFS Manager (IFSMGR.VXD in Windows 9x) and 32-bit file access will be enabled.

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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2009, 09:44:10 AM »
The autoexec.bat and config.sys files are located in the root folder of C:.....
If you don't have them then Win 3.1 is not installed correctly.

Well I do not have them on my system. Maybe because I don't have DOS...just a DOS bootdisk. I searched the web but could not find Dos.

What do i do?

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« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2009, 09:46:26 AM »
Well I do not have them on my system. Maybe because I don't have DOS...just a DOS bootdisk. I searched the web but could not find Dos.

What do i do?

How did you get Windows 3.1 running in a VM without it having MS-DOS first?

I should add that to install MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11, I employed the legally purchased install media for that software which I own and which I am licensed to use.

I will further add that this is not a forum where asking for piracy of software is permitted. I hope that is clear.



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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2009, 09:57:11 AM »
I will further add that this is not a forum where asking for piracy of software is permitted. I hope that is clear.
Of course it's clear, i always read & obey rules.

How did you get Windows 3.1 running in a VM without it having MS-DOS first?
I used a MS DOS 5.0 bootdisk.

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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2009, 09:59:04 AM »
what happens when you start the VM? does it immediately go into windows?

if your in windows- Exit it. there you go. a DOS prompt.


windows 3.1 requires DOS installed first; "install" can be as basic as running SYS.COM on the HD.
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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2009, 10:07:24 AM »
Well my dos bootdisk is like running dos off a cd/floppy.

After my machine starts it takes me to a command promt (A:\) and then i type "win" and it takes me to Windows 3.1

So I can get the dos promt before windows or by switching to dos prompt while in windows but my problem is I still dont have "config.sys" & "autoexec.bat" files on my HDD. So how do i get them?

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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2009, 10:16:26 AM »
so your computer won't boot without the  boot disk?


you need to actually install DOS; not just via a boot floppy.

And no, I won't zip up the disk contents for you, either.
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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2009, 10:18:41 AM »
Well something is not Kosher here...
Both versions of DOS mentioned and Win3.1 need an autoexec and config to run so there's something you're not telling us here....
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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2009, 10:20:35 AM »
my guess would be it is using autoexec.bat and config.sys from the boot floppy image.
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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2009, 10:46:42 AM »
so your computer won't boot without the  boot disk?
you need to actually install DOS; not just via a boot floppy.
That's right my computer won't boot without the disk.
However once i enter windows 3.1 i can remove the bootdisk unless i need to use dos again.
And no, I won't zip up the disk contents for you...
And I didn't ask you to do it anyway.
my guess would be it is using autoexec.bat and config.sys from the boot floppy image.
That may be true. There are autoexec.bat and config.sys files on my bootdisk (as well as many others).
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Should I modify the autoexec.bat and config.sys files on my floppy? How?

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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2009, 10:50:25 AM »
Since I am obviously rusty at this, can we not get Cityscape to copy the autoexec and config from the boot disc onto the hard drive root directory (c:\) and have him boot those from the hard drive?


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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2009, 11:04:27 AM »
Since I am obviously rusty at this, can we not get Cityscape to copy the autoexec and config from the boot disc onto the hard drive root directory (c:\) and have him boot those from the hard drive?

For this to work properly he needs to let us know exactly he has this setup....hasn't happened yet.
For example even if he copied those to the root of C: he may need path variables to tell his setup where to look for them.
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Re: Win3.1 won't recognize my Cd drive. Help!
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2009, 11:08:02 AM »
config.sys and autoexec.bat are text files.

he needs to boot to that boot disk and run the commands:

Code: [Select]
SYS C:
copy command.com C:\
copy config.sys C:\
copy autoexec.bat C:\

then it will boot from the HD; and autoexec.bat and config.sys will be on C:\, as well.

how did you install Windows 3.1? was it already present on a drive?
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