Author Topic: RC410-M motherboard troubles with Nvidia Geforce 9400 GT PCI-E (Read 12840 times)

jimbo8098 · « **on:** May 14, 2009, 06:43:15 AM »

Boutght an Nvidia Geforce 9400 GT PCI-E a couple of months ago. Installed the card and latest driver. As soon as I restart my computer the screen starts flickering.

1) the screen flicker - screen begins flickering when left idle or while and after playing a high performance game (UT3 for example). Nvidia say its inno 3D that I should contact. Inno 3D say I need to update system BIOS. Tried to update it and an error occured. Computer defiately has the correct motherboard for the update.

later on after that my computer has started making strange noises

2) Accleration of system fan - Sysem fan has been speeding up which has never happened before. not looked into the issue as yet.

I have contacted the Packard Bell Forums (manufacturers of pc) about both these issues today.

patio · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:07:57 AM »

Did Inno3D even inquire what MBoard you had ? ?
If not i would be skeptical of flashing your BIOS.

x2543 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2009, 05:43:19 PM »

one other thing, if you have other graphics card you can test, then see what happens. maybe 9400GT graphics card not functioning properly and should be returned back to inno3d for a warranty check if warranty did exist and still is available for said card.

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2009, 01:21:01 PM »

Well I have contacted them and the card has been sent and returned by the warranty manufacturer.

Inno 3D has not asked anything about the motherboard but I have told them ad given them a DxDiag.

I recieved a reply from them a day ago saying:

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1) If you have used a 4-pin to 6-pin and 8-pin power converter, make sure both 4-pin connectors is connected to the card firmly.

2) Restore motherboard BIOS default and update the latest BIOS if available

3) Change the following BIOS settings if available

Assign IRQ to VGA: Enable

PnP O/S Installed: Enable

VGA Pallet Snooping: Disable

PCI Bursting: Disable

PCI Latency Timer: 128

Peer Concurrency: Disable

Video BIOS Shadowing: Disable

Video RAM Cacheable: Disable

USWC: Disable/UC

Pipeline Cache Write: Disable

PCI 2.1 Compliance: Enable (Only needed when using PCI graphic cards)

Passive Release: Enable

Delayed Transaction: Enable

4) Reinstall the Windows OS and update the latest VGA driver form the URL below: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

Before installing new drivers make sure you uninstall all NVIDIA display drivers from the Windows Control Panel. Browse to the Start Menu > Windows Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs and search for "NVIDIA Windows Display Drivers" or "NVIDIA Display Drivers" and select remove.

Finally, if it does not resolve the problem, test the card with another system if available.

I followed this but to no avail. Most of the settings they were asking me to change in the BIOS was not available and the computer came iinstalled with the OS so a reinstall is out of the question. I have the latest driver (as of 07 Jun 2009 - v185.85) but this has not helped in any way.

The power connector that I was asked to connect in the manula and in the e-mail is not available but I have recently found a cable which may be able to fix that problem using an old 3-pin connector which I do not use (the product can be found here - http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=98840)

though I'm not sure if it will do the trick , I will ask instore. Mabe this is the problem. Mabe it's (this is what I think) sucking the power out of the motherboard from the PCI-E slot an leaving too little power for the motherboard itself.

All going well , I should get a reply back tomorrow , then I'll give you some more info.

patio · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2009, 04:57:30 PM »

You need a new PSU...you're asking yours to do something it wasn't built for...

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:28:45 AM »

PSU = Power Supply Unit?

How much do those cost?
would the card connectdirectly to the PSU if its got the right stuff?
Do I need to know any technical details when buying one?

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2009, 02:30:35 PM »

Oh my god... The answer fwas FAR too simple!!!!!

The problem is all fixed now. All I had to do was download and install the new bios update for the motherboard. It was so easy.as soon as it had started the screen had stopped flickering! I had to activate windows though and my internet wasn't working for some reason so I had to ask over the phone. I had to refresh the conformation ID three times before the machine accepted it!

Anyways , I downloaded the driver from

http://www.e4allupgraders.info/dir1/motherboards/socket775/ecs_RC410-M_downloads.shtml

That will take you straight to the page I got the download from.

Thanks for your help everyone!

Jimbo8098

(The stupidhead

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jimbo8098 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 08, 2009, 02:31:43 PM »

o yeah and the 1/29/2007 one done the trick

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 12, 2009, 03:37:53 AM »

A couple of days later the problem began again but it turns out that the problem for all this screen flicker was in fact ... wait for it... a bit of dust

patio · « **Reply #9 on:** June 12, 2009, 04:53:38 AM »

Thanx for the update...
Glad to hear you are fixed up.

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:59:11 AM »

Thanks

squall_01 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2009, 07:42:29 AM »

Its going to take me a while an supposebly there are still issue. Will seriously have too look at this later.

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2009, 07:43:39 AM »

well its back nto not working
i have updated the BIOS and the driver for GPU but its not working all the tim

i can stop the effects temporarily by running a cloth over pins though i believe that it wont help in the long term

it seems to be either dirt or an incompatablility

i want to ask for a refund but i dont know if i can

patio · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2009, 09:13:22 AM »

Return it for a replacement...most vid cards are a minimum 1 yr. warranty.....don't waste time...do it today.

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2009, 02:38:49 PM »

it seems to be like that doesnt it patio but i sent it to the manufacturer and it was sent back a couple of weeks ago

I have had the card sent back but no details were given , for example , if it was broken and fixed or replaced etc

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2009, 02:56:27 PM »

I have enquired about returning the product but i don't have much paperwork ... I have my returns number but that is all ... i hope its enough...

I have also asked for the details of the return , if it was actually damaged or if it was fine and was just returned or if it was replaced...

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2009, 03:20:27 PM »

I downloaded another update for the BIOS today but now i can't get to the windows GUI...

When the comp is switched on the nvidia bios for my GPU shows up

then the american megatrends logo comes up and information comes up about my computer , IDE Decvices and so on , and the system fan fires at full speed and doesnt stop.

It says press F1 to go to the BIOS settings.

Left alone , it goes to the system recovery screen , which says press F11 to begin system restore.

A message saying that windows did not start properly last time comes up and i am presented with five options , i can go through safe mode , safe mode with networking , safe with control panel (or something) , start windows normally , or last settings that worked correctly.

Leaving it alone , windows starts normally.

The windows logo comes up (with the little blue bar scrolling from left to right) then disaster ... the third time the bar goes by , 3/4 of the way through it stops , a blue screen flickers (with something on it but can't see because the flicker is too fast , I can make out Xs and 0s but not much else) Then the system restarts

Nothing is different the next time , same thing happens every time.

Ok so now ive told you whats going on i have to tell you what i have tried to fix the problem with. I have tried to :

1) Set BIOS to optimal settings - the computer is restarted and nothing is changed (same procedure)

2) Remove GPU - No full speed system fan but the result is the same

3) System Restore - computer restarts , again same procedure

The installation when fine , no interruptions , any ideas what happened?

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2009, 04:09:42 PM »

To make this problem even worse , i dont have a CD to boot windows from so im stuck with what i have on my comp right now... i could download and burn a CD but i dont know if microsoft will let me do that

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 26, 2009, 02:57:14 AM »

I have read up on this problem and itseems to be quite a widfespread problem. Many people suggest a complete reinstall of windows which i cannot do because i have no CD for windows , it came shipped with the computer.

Others suggest that i use the bartPE which seems to be able to fix my problem from inside windows. I would like to install this however i do not know if this instakkation will wipe my system of windows XP.

I cannot go to microsoft to ask for support since i do not have the money to do so (£50)

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2009, 11:49:42 AM »

Problem was fixed by a complete system restore but the problem still persists

The card STILL Flickers...

should i keep trying to update or should i leave my system as it is? I don;t want to risk the heartache of losing my computer but i dont want the flickering to continue and it is driving me nuts!!!!!

Quantos · « **Reply #20 on:** June 26, 2009, 02:23:25 PM »

Is your monitor capable of the resolution/refresh rate that you are trying to use?

How are you connecting it, HDMI, VGA, or S-Video?

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2009, 09:41:59 AM »

My monitor is capable of the refresh rate being used ...

it is connected via a VGA port

I bought a new power supply today , thinking it might help the problem though a 2 pin connector cannot be located... the power unit can be found here:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=223827

Seems to be running fine , so far , no flickering and I believe that speed has increased slightly...

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2009, 01:12:53 PM »

for god sake its gone again and i fear it has died on me...

I installed new bios later today , it was definately the right bios , for the right mobo and so on but the computer wont start now... i fear its dead... when i press the power , the computer will start wirring and so on , everything inside the case is working but the screen shows nothing at all , just sits there blank nothing on screen ...

I believe it is screwed...

R.I.P. The game ruler

Karnac · « **Reply #23 on:** June 27, 2009, 01:45:41 PM »

Check your motherboard for any leaking capacitors.....they are the ones with the + on top......they must have a flat top....are any bulging...with rounded tops?

patio · « **Reply #24 on:** June 27, 2009, 04:01:48 PM »

Sad to hear...
A BIOS flash has rendered many systems un-bootable.

Oh well ...we move on from here.

jimbo8098 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2009, 07:45:49 AM »

so it looks like sill be buying a new mobo ...

oh dear...

Quantos · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2009, 02:55:21 PM »

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A BIOS flash has rendered many systems un-bootable.

patio is right, I never recommend flashing a BIOS except as a last resort.
They are only for fixing an encountered problem with the BIOS itself.
The same with updating drivers. If something isn't broken don't fix it.

Unfortunately there are many 'techs' who try to shove that off as a fix just to get you off the line and look like they are doing something.

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