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    Re: Lame help ecoding?
    « Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 11:25:21 AM »
    I am useing Audacity and I just need some help with the imput level.

    I see whenever I import say an MP3 Music File in Audacity it will show you a graph of the Audio File.

    And the graph is flat and does not move I like this it just show the Flat graph spreadout across the screen.

    And the  graph seems to always be displayed as very high  what I meen is the graph will always be spreadout to the very top and ver bottum of the Tracks.
    And it plays ok and sound good so I wanted to know when I do a recording to get the best sound sould I have the imput level in Audacity set all the way to the Lright I think that is to 100%  ??????


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    Re: Lame help ecoding?
    « Reply #16 on: May 16, 2009, 11:50:10 AM »
    I assume you got Exporting MP3 files working?

    I am barely able to understand what you are asking, but I think I get it.
    You're asking if the Input Level determines the quality of the sound when you are recording from a microphone.

    The Input Level is simply the 'loudness' you want to record at. If you set it to 100%, the microphone will be at its maximum sensitivity, which does not necessarily mean best quality.

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    Re: Lame help ecoding?
    « Reply #17 on: May 16, 2009, 11:59:40 AM »
    You're asking if the Input Level determines the quality of the sound when you are recording from a microphone.

    The Input Level is simply the 'loudness' you want to record at. If you set it to 100%, the microphone will be at its maximum sensitivity, which does not necessarily mean best quality.

    ... especially when you are either picking up background noise or you are too close to the mic making your boice sound like a trumpet.

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    Re: Lame help ecoding?
    « Reply #18 on: May 16, 2009, 12:37:01 PM »
    The dynamic range of Digital Recording is some much wider that Analog. There is little point in recording at a very high level. High level recoding causes distortions and/or  reduces dynamic range.

    The point is, do NOT record at high levels. After you record you can add effects, mix tracks and a lot of other neat things. After you are sure you will do not more changes to the audio, you ask Audacity to 'normalize' the audio. It will do its best to raise the level to just under the clip level. Save a bask cup copy in a high quality format without clipping .Then save another copy in the MP3 format with over driven level high distortion, if that is want you like.

    This is off topic. Your original question was about the LAME encoder. Did you get that working right? The encoder does not set levels nor does it improve audio that was bad from the start.

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      Re: Lame help ecoding?
      « Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 01:27:43 PM »
      Soory what I ment was.

      Whenever I Import an MP3 or any Music File the graph in Audacity looks like the sound was recorded very High.
      Because the graph that shows the sound file very High.

      So I wanted to know if I record say a sound from my computer or Mic or anything sould I have the imput level set to the max??


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      Re: Lame help ecoding?
      « Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 01:55:24 PM »
      Simple answer is that you record at a levelalways  below the clip level.
      You will need to experiment. I often record at levels about -12db relative to the max. Then I ask the sound editor, audacity,m to 'normalize the sound later. Before I put Audio up for other to hear, I would use some process to hold the level steady.People do not like it when the level keeps going up and down. (Unless that is part of the effect you want.)
      Some audio systems have automatic level control. Which I find to be an annoyance, so I turn it off. Unless I am feeling lazy  Editors like Audacity have better volume compressors that you can adjust for best results.

      Again, do not record at high level for a live recording. Use the 'normalize' tool before you save the mix.



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        Re: Lame help ecoding?
        « Reply #21 on: May 16, 2009, 02:06:50 PM »
        Thanks for the help.

        What sould I expanct from the   'normalize Tool  will it ask me for a lot of  settings  or   if I have say a sound that I recorded at Max Level it will just make it 'normal?

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        Re: Lame help ecoding?
        « Reply #22 on: May 16, 2009, 05:23:51 PM »
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        What sould I expanct from the   'normalize Tool  will it ask me for a lot of  settings  or   if I have say a sound that I recorded at Max Level it will just make it 'normal?

        Do not record at MAX level!

        Rather the prolong this thread any more, would you please read the tutorials on Audacity. Here is a simple video to get your started.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrPGMjZORCM

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          Re: Lame help ecoding?
          « Reply #23 on: May 17, 2009, 11:45:25 AM »
          Soory I got off topic from exportting to MP3 and using Lame.

          I do understand when I open the Lame Zip Folder I have to copy the Lame_enc.DLL File to the Desktop and let Audacity find it I get this.

          But after I do this I still have the Lame Zip Folder with all these other Files in it and one called Lame.exe can I just get rid of them or do the Lame_enc.DLL need these???

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          Re: Lame help ecoding?
          « Reply #24 on: May 17, 2009, 02:25:54 PM »
          Only that one file is needed.
          I have a directory for all my downloads and I put what I do not use  in there. I don't bother cleaning it out until it gets real big, like gigabytes. Then I put them on a DVD-R and file it.

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          Re: Lame help ecoding?
          « Reply #25 on: May 17, 2009, 02:47:05 PM »
          Only that one file is needed.
          I have a directory for all my downloads and I put what I do not use  in there. I don't bother cleaning it out until it gets real big, like gigabytes. Then I put them on a DVD-R and file it.

          Yes, exactly. lame.dll is the only thing you need on your pc once you get audacity to export mp3 without issue. And like Geek said, I keep all good files I download on my computer. What if I suddenly need something and there's no internet at the time? Even if it's older version, life can still go on to whatever extent it ends at.

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          Re: Lame help ecoding?
          « Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 07:01:07 PM »
          Nymph. I don't think you understand.

          Copy the .dll file OUT of the zip archive and DELETE the zip archive.


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          Re: Lame help ecoding?
          « Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 07:57:37 PM »
          Nymph. I don't think you understand.

          Copy the .dll file OUT of the zip archive and DELETE the zip archive.



          you have to have the lame.dll extracted on your computer in a folder of your choice outside of the zip file. Have audacity locate it and get your mp3 thing working. Then you can delete the zip file.

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          Re: Lame help ecoding?
          « Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 09:07:56 PM »
          NOTE WELL:
          This thread has be prolonged because of not understand the instructions.
          The instructions are on the aAdacity page and on the relevant LAME page.
          The two sites are independent and the instructions may not be coordinated to idiot-proof third-grade reading level.

          http://lame.buanzo.com.ar/
          Has a recent version of the LAME just for idiots. But it requires you to scroll down the page until your find:
          Code: [Select]
          For Audacity on Windows:
           Lame_v3.98.2_for_Audacity_on_Windows.exe
          In any case, it is important for anyone  to pay attention to instructions, even if it is a task so simple even a cave-man child could do it.   ;D

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          Re: Lame help ecoding?
          « Reply #29 on: May 17, 2009, 10:25:29 PM »
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          In any case, it is important for anyone  to pay attention to instructions, even if it is a task so simple even a cave-man child could do it.   ;D

          Is Geico with you?  :D