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    Re: Need your EXPERT OPINION quickly please
    « Reply #60 on: June 09, 2009, 03:29:58 PM »
    Why am I the bad guy here? You see evilfantasy, youget no credit for what you said about David long ago. so long it has been forgotten.

    Okay BC_again, if the state of Maryland wanted to run a lottery, they would it's a scam because only a few or maybe one will win, but they buy tickets anyway. This site, wanted to make money apart from their on-line store so they ran this competition. Who cares? They're making money and David Archuleta's name goes up in sites all around the world.

    David had not said one tweet about vote for me, like others have. We are the ones who are supporting him. If this were SU2C we would support him there to or Invisible Children, or any of the other charities where his name is linked. It's what we do. Don't you get that. We support whatever his name is linked to. Now when I go back and tell my club they are supporting a scam site. what do you think they'll do? I have mentioned to them already about the  site's click and earn. None of them have stopped supporting David yet. They don't care about that. They care about promoting David to the general public, and backing the name David James Archuleta.

    You act as though David's family or label or Managers don't know about this thing. None of them have said to Mallplace remove the name David Archuleta. It's promotion.  Man you guys wear me out.

    I hear EF, I have since he said this was a site making money long ago, but he/she refuses to hear what I'm saying. Bernard madoff, made off with millions from people, they had no idea they were being scammed. For the ppl whose names are being used here, If they're being scammed and they want to sue they will. But they are also being promoted. Trade-off. Sites on line either mostly make or pay money. Doesn't CH? If you don't have to pay for anything how lucky you are. But do you make money? And if so does that make CH a scam site.

     
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    Re: Need your EXPERT OPINION quickly please
    « Reply #61 on: June 09, 2009, 04:00:46 PM »
    I make money through a job, not by putting a bunch of famous/popular people on a web page without their prior authorization in an effort to expunge funds from the people who trust those people, while all the while claiming to use secure http without a valid certificate.

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    they would it's a scam because only a few or maybe one will win, but they buy tickets anyway.

    your missing my point. it's not a scam for the people being voted for (IE, the one winner) but a scam since the people RUNNING the vote, the ones with the invalid security certificate, are stealing personal information from the voters and selling it to others. the victims are BOTH the fans, because they are going to likely be the victims of identity theft, as well as those being featured on the site, since their name is involved with this whole scheme.

    Adding further to this is the fact that the people running mallplace.com are or were known spammers. Likely they are selling the personal information to not only other spam sites but also identity thieves.


    IT's the FANS that are being LEECHED for personal information! Why else would they want you change your DNS? there is no "innocent" reason to ask you to do so.

    My browser wouldn't even let me go there without skipping through a warning about it's SSL certificate.


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    I hear EF, I have since he said this was a site making money long ago, but he/she refuses to hear what I'm saying. Bernard madoff, made off with millions from people, they had no idea they were being scammed. For the ppl whose names are being used here, If they're being scammed and they want to sue they will. But they are also being promoted. Trade-off. Sites on line either mostly make or pay money. Doesn't CH? If you don't have to pay for anything how lucky you are. But do you make money? And if so does that make CH a scam site.

    you obviously don't even have a clue what a scam site would be. they aren't scamming people out of money, they are scamming them out of their personal information. And even if it isn't that there is something deeper, as indicated by your query regarding DNS. if CH makes any money it's through advertisements. advertiser's pay to have their advertisements displayed on the CH main page. the people seeing those advertisements choose wether they want to not only examine the ads in more detail (via the links) but also wether they want to buy them. In this case, chances are voters are never asked "can we vend your personal information to any third party willing ot pay us for it?"


    There is a difference between loyal fans and brainless sheep. most people like david want loyal fans, not brainless sheep willing to give out their personal information to what they believe is a good cause, while subsequently unaware, not only that the vote doesn't matter anyway, since it's twitter- it's not changing anything... but  also that any personal information they reveal may be sold to any interested third parties.

    Basically, they are banking on what you said- that you'll support anything with his name, regardless of wether or wether or not he gave his personal approval.

    the trade-off isn't between being scammed and promoting his name. it's trading the personal information of thousands, maybe millions of fans, for the meaningless votes on some random twitter vote.


    It's a web-site. it can't change the world. Continue supporting your idol, but please stop being brainless sheep followers while doing it. it's a web-based poll for god's sake.

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    Re: Need your EXPERT OPINION quickly please
    « Reply #62 on: June 09, 2009, 04:51:32 PM »
    I think that casse2go believes that if his name is on it then it must be supported because it David <- Substitute that name with Oprah if you wish, she has millions of fanatics also.

    Just because his name is on it and we are saying it is a bad site has nothing to do with us saying something out of line about David. It's the web site we are attacking. Not him! Forget him for a second..., well if you can, and just see what we are really trying to tell you. It's a SCAM WEBSITE.

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      Re: Need your EXPERT OPINION quickly please
      « Reply #63 on: June 09, 2009, 05:09:38 PM »
      Maybe someone should tweet David and inform him his good name is associated with an identity stealing scam website....I wonder if he doesn't already know?.....Mmmmm, might be worth a couple of ducats to his next show.....I think I'll tweet Oprah, never been to Chicago  ;D


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      Re: Need your EXPERT OPINION quickly please
      « Reply #64 on: June 09, 2009, 05:12:24 PM »
      I have no idea who this David person is, but there's no possible way that he's worth 5 pages of confusing banter.  I say if this casse2go person wants to get scammed so badly, just let them.  There's obviously no convincing him/her.  Just let them enjoy all of the spam and such.
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        Re: Need your EXPERT OPINION quickly please
        « Reply #65 on: June 09, 2009, 07:02:37 PM »
        You people can be so darned condescending. This morning I wanted to ask your opinion on this message from the webmaster at Mallplace.
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        I did contact the webmaster & got this message back from him:

        “Due to the success of the tweeter competitions, we have had to move hosting companies as our previous host was unable to support the level of traffic we were experiencing. Although the move has been completed, it will take a few hours while your Internet Service Provider updates their records to point to our new servers.

        Only follow these steps if you are comfortable changing settings on your computer -
        If you don't wish to wait until your ISP catches up, and you are comfortable and capable to do so, you could change your DNS settings for your computer to OpenDNS by following the steps outlined on this page https://www.opendns.com/start/ and then clear the cache on your browser.”

        So MAYBE now the problems getting in to that site are over??"

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        I finally got a reply from one of you to not mess with it. SO I said fine. I won't. You continue to address the fact that you think I can't read. I was told many post ago that you think the SITE is a spam site. That not only is it getting paid on each click but garnering info on those you Register there. So I wanted to know what's the difference in this site and so many other just like it who scam/spam their members. You might or might not be surprised at who might or might not sell info that you simply show a card to at a club. When you buy shoes or pay for a hair cut with a card. So scamming and trading info is what ppl do.

        I doubt that the internet is filled to the brim with mindless twits. No not everyone is a computer geek, not not all of us are idiots either. So the site is scamming all of those people for their personal info. How many sites don't get and trade into? When you log onto a site you take your chances.

        And yes, I got way back there that the site wasn't scamming David, in spite of what appeared to be. None of David's fans or fans of any of the other people on this site and voting seem to have a problem with the site being a scam site. I tell you what. you go on there and comment that it is and see who says, I'm leaving and telling others not to reg. here. Or write to the webmaster to decry the site as a scammer.

        Leave it up to whatever group monitors that art of the net. As for me and my club we are supporting David.

        As for this David Mallplace the scammer issue. I'm done with it.
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        Re: Need your EXPERT OPINION quickly please
        « Reply #66 on: June 09, 2009, 07:20:51 PM »
        Wat?



        Take it easy, I'm just playing...

        You keep thinking we are calling you names or thinking you don't know anything at all. If that was the case I would have given up long ago. Trust me on that. :)

        Good luck!

        P.S. OpenDNS is safe, and free. But don't start messing with it unless you are sure what you are doing. You may be opening up way more then you mean to.