Author Topic: Is a pdf part of Windows Office? (Read 45915 times)

ImnoGuru · « **on:** June 08, 2009, 06:18:16 AM »

Thank you for taking the time to look here.

Is a pfd format document part of Windows Office or do I have to download something else to open and read it?

I have flash player, media player and office on this computer, but every time I try to open the document, windows says it cant open it and to search the web... so on.
The only thing is it goes to MS Home and doesnt tell me which program I need to use to open a pfd.

Thank you ImnoGuru.

patio · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2009, 06:47:56 AM »

DLoad and install Foxit Reader...ti opens PDF's...
They are Adobe files...used widely on the web for info pages.

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2009, 07:14:57 AM »

Thanks patio. Yes PDF 's I'm a little dyslexic.

I dont have any trouble on the other computers, maybe they have the pdf reader already.

Again many thanks ImnoGuru.

patio · « **Reply #3 on:** June 08, 2009, 07:29:36 AM »

Foxit is alot smaller and faster than the fulll blown Adobe Reader...

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #4 on:** June 08, 2009, 07:46:25 AM »

Quote from: patio on June 08, 2009, 06:47:56 AM

DLoad and install Foxit Reader.. ti opens PDF's...
They are Adobe files...used widely on the web for info pages.

Its good to have accuracy when correcting someone, particularly highlighting the mistake so that they wont knowingly make it again.

But then computers demand an uncompromising degree of accuracy don't they.

I'll give Foxit a go then.
Thanks again.

billrich · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2009, 08:03:40 AM »

http://get.adobe.com/reader/

Download the latest version of Adobe Reader

Adobe Reader 9.1
(includes Acrobat.com on Adobe AIR)
Windows XP SP2 - SP3, English

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2009, 09:07:58 AM »

Thanks billrich for your post.

I have already made moves to go with patio's advice.

And (can I start a sentence with and?) with Adobe Reader 9.1
(includes Acrobat.com on Adobe AIR), I dont even know if I need these bits (or what they do).
Should I need to go with your suggestion I'll have the information at hand.

Thanks again billrich.

Rob Pomeroy · « **Reply #7 on:** June 09, 2009, 06:03:56 AM »

Quote from: ImnoGuru on June 08, 2009, 09:07:58 AM

And (can I start a sentence with and?) with Adobe Reader 9.1

No. The lack of a verb in your main clause means this is not a sentence.

Do you need Adobe AIR? If not, you have just stumbled on one of the reasons why people use Foxit in preference to Adobe. Useless bloat.

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #8 on:** June 09, 2009, 08:26:23 AM »

Thanks Rob Pomeroy, I thought it was bad diction when I wrote it, but I let it go anyway.

I don't know if I need Air, (maybe to breathe) but I don't even know what it does? So patio's suggestion is probably the better way to go, and use Foxit.

I thought I had a PDF reader on that computer already. Maybe it was on one of the other drives when they were the master.

At any rate job done.

Just musing over the other computer, if there were a program on the drive that opens the pdf's, shouldn't it just find that program automatically and open the document?

patio · « **Reply #9 on:** June 09, 2009, 08:34:17 AM »

Right clik a PDF and select open with...it should list a compatible app...

soybean · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2009, 09:55:30 AM »

Quote from: ImnoGuru on June 09, 2009, 08:26:23 AM

I thought I had a PDF reader on that computer already. Maybe it was on one of the other drives when they were the master.

Just musing over the other computer, if there were a program on the drive that opens the pdf's, shouldn't it just find that program automatically and open the document?

Did you move a hard drive from an older computer to your new/other computer and configure that drive as slave? If so, then any programs on it will not be recognized by Windows because the program was not installed with that drive as Master and with the OS on that drive running.

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2009, 10:03:02 AM »

Thanks patio, I didnt even think of that.

I only realized tonight that there should have been an app on one of the other drives I could use.

soybean · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2009, 10:08:38 AM »

Quote from: ImnoGuru on June 09, 2009, 10:03:02 AM

Thanks patio, I didnt even think of that.

I only realized tonight that there should have been an app on one of the other drives I could use.

You're referring to my post, right?

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #13 on:** June 13, 2009, 04:13:00 AM »

soybean, you are correct. Big slap for me.
I added a new drive to this computer and used this computer thereafter for junky stuff. It was infected with the "ie antivirus" Virus.
I loaded XP on the new drive and set the other two as slave and so on. So yes you hit the nail dead on the head.

(Modification achieved)
patio is also correct, as he made me aware of the "open with" feature. Mostly if I open an article/pdf, it just opens without drama with the correct app. and I don't think of it any further.
It's been many moons since Ive even had to use this tired old brain, I had forgotten many things, including being able to use the open with.

patio as it turned out I didn't download Foxit at this time because you did make me aware that the computer will actually see apps that are on the other drives as well.

I will probably get up the courage of formatting the lot one day and start afresh with clean drives.
Actually I'd take the smaller two out altogether and just leave the 80 Gig drive there.

Rob Pomeroy · « **Reply #14 on:** June 13, 2009, 02:01:59 PM »

Quote from: ImnoGuru on June 13, 2009, 04:13:00 AM

patio is also correct, as she...

patio · « **Reply #15 on:** June 13, 2009, 03:42:38 PM »

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2009, 11:35:06 PM »

OOPS Sorry!

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2009, 11:58:26 PM »

Thanks rob, All fixed now. I went in and made a modification to my post. Sorry patio.

neelchauhan · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:12:33 AM »

PDF isn't part of Microsoft Office.
If you want to make PDF files in office, you can buy Adobe Writer, or download CutePDF for free at http://www.cutepdf.com. If you download CutePDF, newer versions are needed as older ones contain Spyware.

soybean · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:22:55 AM »

Quote from: neelchauhan on June 21, 2009, 11:12:33 AM

PDF isn't part of Microsoft Office.

It is part of Office 2007.

Quote from: neelchauhan on June 21, 2009, 11:12:33 AM

If you want to make PDF files in office, you can buy Adobe Writer, or download CutePDF for free at http://www.cutepdf.com. If you download CutePDF, newer versions are needed as older ones contain Spyware.

Do you have proof of that? There are numerous other freeware PDF creators/convertors, such as PrimoPDF, pdf995, etc. Also, I suspect the spyware you mentioned is due to the download source, not the version of CutePDF. But, again, if the user has Office 2007, PDF is built-in.

cyrusrynlee · « **Reply #20 on:** June 21, 2009, 06:56:10 PM »

PDF format is not natively supported by MSO 2007 but you can download a PDF reader/viewer for free - adobe reader is the most common PDF reader in our locality. If you want to save your document files in PDF you can download a microsoft addin for MSO 2007 for free - visit http://www.microsoft.com or the official MSO site for more details.

billrich · « **Reply #21 on:** June 21, 2009, 07:08:21 PM »

ImnoGuru,

Adobe PDF reader is not bloat. New computers have enough RAM and HDD space.

Why settle for a VW when you can have a Mercedes free?

patio · « **Reply #22 on:** June 21, 2009, 07:18:03 PM »

With all respect i wholeheartedly disagree with the above...Adobe Reader is nothing but bloat.

soybean · « **Reply #23 on:** June 21, 2009, 09:04:08 PM »

Quote from: cyrusrynlee on June 21, 2009, 06:56:10 PM

PDF format is not natively supported by MSO 2007...

Yes, it is. PDF is an option when using the Save As command in Word 2007, Excel 2007, etc.

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2009, 09:07:34 PM »

Hmmm seems some like it some dont....

Guess its going to get down to, using it and deciding for ones self.

Its so difficult to decide, when we are encapsulated by microsoft at every turn.

I guess people just go with the flow and get office because the bloke down the road has it, and everybody else has it, so I may as well too.

Humans are such creatures of habit. Sad really.

soybean · « **Reply #25 on:** June 21, 2009, 09:17:18 PM »

ImnoGuru, if OpenOffice.org would be sufficient for your needs for an office suite and you really have no compelling need for MS Office, then why buy MS Office? With one of the freeware PDF converters mentioned in this thread or ones that weren't mentioned here, you can have the capability to "print" to PDF from any application on your computer.

I had my reasons for getting MS Office. I also got it at a substantially lower price at a college bookstore, legally.

I also have MS Office 2003 on my Win XP desktop. I have PrimoPDF installed on that computer and can convert any Word file to PDF, using PrimoPDF.

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2009, 09:36:39 PM »

soybean, thanks for your post.
The way my WGA is going at the moment I might have to delete the lot and use open office in its place.
Maybe if we all, eg the world, changed over Bill might rethink his WGA.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2009, 10:25:37 PM »

if you have microsoft office 2007, you can save your work as pdf files (at least I know you can save the documents you created in word 2007 as pdf format)

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #28 on:** June 22, 2009, 12:36:26 AM »

Quote from: billrich on June 21, 2009, 07:08:21 PM

ImnoGuru,

Adobe PDF reader is not bloat. New computers have enough RAM and HDD space.

Why settle for a VW when you can have a Mercedes free?

hahahahaha...

that is a terrible analogy, unless we add that both are free, the mercedes top speed is 40 km/h, and it takes 40 minutes to become drivable when you start it. that and it doesn't fit in your garage and insists on starting up in the middle of the night or when your busy doing other things, threatening to fill your baby's room with carbom monoxide during the night, and it becomes clear that a vw is a bit safer, more reliable, and all-around less of a bother.

billrich · « **Reply #29 on:** June 22, 2009, 01:37:00 AM »

Quote from: BC_Programmer on June 22, 2009, 12:36:26 AM

hahahahaha...

that is a terrible analogy, unless we add that both are free, the mercedes top speed is 40 km/h, and it takes 40 minutes to become drivable when you start it. that and it doesn't fit in your garage and insists on starting up in the middle of the night or when your busy doing other things, threatening to fill your baby's room with carbom monoxide during the night, and it becomes clear that a vw is a bit safer, more reliable, and all-around less of a bother.

Where does BC get such nonsense? VW is safer than a Mercedes? Mecedes top speed is 40 km.hr?

SLR technical data
Performance
Max speed 207.08 miles/h (334 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.7 seconds
0-160 km/h 7.42 seconds
0-200 km/h 10.91 seconds
0-300 km/h 31.91 seconds
Quarter mile 11.6 seconds

http://www.fastestlaps.com/car4585984cab946.html

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #30 on:** June 22, 2009, 01:42:28 AM »

I was making the analogy more accurate a comparison with adobe reader.

quaxo · « **Reply #31 on:** June 22, 2009, 01:55:13 AM »

Anyway, back on top...

When comparing the two, it's obvious how much bloat there is in Adobe Reader (Adobe's ~50MB vs. Foxit's <4MB) and Foxit will do pretty much everything most people need when it comes to PDFs (aside from editing, which Adobe Reader won't do either).

billrich · « **Reply #32 on:** June 22, 2009, 09:50:45 AM »

Sorry for this post. I thought my comments added a small amount of humor.

But no humor was seen.

patio · « **Reply #33 on:** June 22, 2009, 05:11:43 PM »

Doesn't matter to me....

billrich · « **Reply #34 on:** June 22, 2009, 05:19:03 PM »

I hope ImnoGuru is up and running.

p.s. ImnoGuru, pdf is separate Adobe product and is not part of Windows office.

patio · « **Reply #35 on:** June 22, 2009, 07:59:34 PM »

Quote

I don't have investments with Adobe.

Then why state that you do ? ?

Are you just looking to argue ? ?

The numbers stated by Quaxo back up the premise that Adobe is bloat...period.
If you disagree please post facts to backup your assumptions...
Otherwise don't start a pissing contest just because you disagree.

billrich · « **Reply #36 on:** June 22, 2009, 08:17:13 PM »

Patio,

I have removed my offending posts.

It is difficult for me to convey "a tongue in the cheek remark."

I will not direct any further posts to you. I will try my best to avoid any comment about the information in your posts.

_________________________________

This is really a great site. Great design and easy to navigate.

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #37 on:** June 22, 2009, 11:56:53 PM »

Certainly some spirited debate as to which is better. I really dont know.

Quote from: patio on June 22, 2009, 05:11:43 PM

Doesn't matter to me....

Me too. Just so long as I can read my docs, I dont give a '..

By todays standards though isnt 50 MB against 4 MB just a little inconsequential?
Given that computers come out from manufacturers now with hard drives of 1 Terabyte or so.

Crickey my DVD recorder has a 250 Gig drive.

Just a distraction

Thought you might be interested
The VW and Merc debate...(analogy) there's a car called Veyron (I think it is), supposed to be really quick, super safe and so on.
I'll have a peek see if I can find something for you.
Its a VW. I found this.

I don't think I'll be able to afford this VW.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #38 on:** June 23, 2009, 12:04:03 AM »

Quote

By todays standards though isnt 50 MB against 4 MB just a little inconsequential?
Given that computers come out from manufacturers now with hard drives of 1 Terabyte or so.

That doesn't make it ok for the programmers to be lazy. Besides, the RAM requirements are far different- and just compare their startup times!

2x3i5x · « **Reply #39 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:54:53 AM »

lazy programs = lazy products/ Lazy products = less $$ or wasted time (if product intended to hit freeware market)

ImnoGuru · « **Reply #40 on:** June 26, 2009, 06:33:32 AM »

Yes BC_Programmer, I agree that they shouldn't just fudge it up for the sake of filling gaps on paper.( or a screen as the case may be.)

2x3i5x especially if it's for the freeware market. They are wasting their own time too if that's the case.

FlashDrives · « **Reply #41 on:** January 28, 2010, 04:53:09 AM »

Acrobat reader this is what you need to download.

soybean · « **Reply #42 on:** January 28, 2010, 07:56:02 AM »

Quote from: FlashDrives on January 28, 2010, 04:53:09 AM

Acrobat reader this is what you need to download.

This thread is 7 months old now.

neelchauhan · « **Reply #43 on:** January 31, 2010, 07:17:37 AM »

For Office 2007 and newer - Yes
For Office 2003 and older - No but you can download CutePDF at http://www.cutepdf.com/

soybean · « **Reply #44 on:** January 31, 2010, 08:46:38 AM »

Quote from: neelchauhan on January 31, 2010, 07:17:37 AM

For Office 2007 and newer - Yes
For Office 2003 and older - No but you can download CutePDF at http://www.cutepdf.com/

neelchauhan, this topic is 7 months old. Why are you resurrecting it?

Anyway, the topic title is somewhat misleading. What the OP wanted was a way to open and read PDF, not create them. CutePDF creates PDF's; it is not a PDF reader.

patio · « **Reply #45 on:** January 31, 2010, 04:37:04 PM »

Topic necromansing is at an all time high this Month...
Hopefully if we get thru this Full Moon things will be more normal.

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