Oh, I completely intend to use the stand offs. And, I hope I don't sound ungrateful, because I appreciate all the help you've given me a great deal. I just don't -understand- the stand offs. I've always just screwed the motherboard down, and bam that's that. The brass stand offs I have have a tiny screw on one side and ire magnetic on the otherside. So does that mean I screw it in from underneath the motherbooard, and let the magnets keep it in place? I have no idea. Never seen them used.