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Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« on: January 18, 2010, 12:25:18 AM »
I've got a guitar amp that's old and it weighs 47 pounds.  The local electronics recycling center charges 30 cents/pound for anything that is not a CRT monitor or CRT televistion..

It would cost me about 15 bucks to recycle it... Frankly I'd rather put it in the dumpster at my apartment complex...


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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 12:28:41 AM »
People pay money for stuff like that, especially if it is a vacuum tube amplifier. You could try Ebay or Craigslist or an ad in your local newspaper. Is there a music/guitar shop that would let you put an ad in their window?

In any case, we don't know where you live,   ::)   so we can't tell you (even if we knew) what local laws apply to waste disposal in your town or city or state or country. Enquire at your city hall.


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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 12:41:53 AM »
Actually, there's a recycling dumpster right next to the trash/garbage dumpster that accepts a variety of stuff including, "small" appliances. 

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 12:42:28 AM »
Actually, there's a recycling dumpster right next to the trash/garbage dumpster that accepts a variety of stuff including, "small" appliances. 

But... does it pay you for it?
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 12:44:50 AM »
That really depends on where you live at. Where I live you can throw away 3 televisions and 10 buckets of paint and nobody would notice. Some cities and states have their own local laws that are more strict. Europe has the WEEE Directive but I'm not sure if it's really law for individuals or just manufacturers.


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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 12:44:54 AM »
Actually, there's a recycling dumpster right next to the trash/garbage dumpster that accepts a variety of stuff including, "small" appliances. 

If you put it in there, how is anybody going to know it was you? (Especially if you do it at night when nobody is about) Or get a friend or relative to drive you to another one some distance away.

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 12:48:54 AM »
@  BC

The amp doesn't work  :P     Otherwise I'd keep it.  It needs new tone/volume knobs soldered into the internal board.  It's not worth fixing to me... If someone else wanted to fix it, I could probably only get like 10 bucks for it... It's not worth it..
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 12:53:18 AM »
Europe has the WEEE Directive but I'm not sure if it's really law for individuals or just manufacturers.

The WEEE directive imposes the responsibility for the disposal of waste electrical and electronic equipment on the manufacturers of such equipment. They impose a duty of care upon the provider towards the end user, who as a result has a disposal route, but no legal obligations under WEEE.

In Britain, if you are an importer, rebrander or manufacturer of new electrical or electronic equipment then it's likely that you'll need to comply with the UK's WEEE Regulations, which in part implement the WEEE Directive. If you do need to comply, then you must register on a producer compliance scheme. You may also have obligations under the WEEE Regulations if you are a business with electrical or electronic equipment to dispose of, or if you sell electrical or electronic equipment.

However, most city, town or county authorities have regulations governing what can be dumped by individuals and where.

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 05:00:22 AM »
@  BC

The amp doesn't work  :P     Otherwise I'd keep it.  It needs new tone/volume knobs soldered into the internal board.  It's not worth fixing to me... If someone else wanted to fix it, I could probably only get like 10 bucks for it... It's not worth it..
It doesn't need to be in working order. Like somehow, the parts for a car can be worth more than the car itself, that may just apply in this situation.
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 06:44:49 AM »
At midnight, dump the amplifier on the electronics recycling center's doorstep. :P

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 06:45:21 AM »
At midnight, dump the amplifier on the electronics recycling center's doorstep. :P


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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 07:02:10 AM »
 :o :o........... ;D
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 10:53:07 AM »
It ought to be illegal to throw anything away that's loud enough to annoy thy neighbors  ;D

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 11:56:00 AM »
you can recycle anything with electric parts in it in the recycling centre free of charge , why dump it some where

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 12:12:42 PM »
you can recycle anything with electric parts in it in the recycling centre free of charge , why dump it some where


It would cost me about 15 bucks to recycle it
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2010, 12:32:49 PM »
The local electronics recycling center charges 30 cents/pound for anything that is not a CRT monitor or CRT televistion..

It would cost me about 15 bucks to recycle it... Frankly I'd rather put it in the dumpster at my apartment complex...

Actually, there's a recycling dumpster right next to the trash/garbage dumpster that accepts a variety of stuff including, "small" appliances. 
I think some clarification might be helpful.  The above are two different options for disposal, right?  And, the second one would not cost anything?

Visit the website of your county.  They may have info on recycling.  For example, my county has this at http://www.lcounty.com/rlc/default.aspx.  Or, as Salmon Trout suggested, inquire at City Hall if you live in the jurisdiction of a municipality.

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2010, 12:34:57 PM »
you can recycle anything with electric parts in it in the recycling centre free of charge , why dump it some where

Sure your man Harry48 lives in Belfast, so he does. EEVIAC lives in the USA. Does it not cross your mind, harry, that maybe the rules are different over there away in America? Where they have "centers"?

Or did you think that this was a six counties forum? That BC_programmer comes from Dungannon? That Patio is really Paddyo, a Nationalist from the Bogside? And I am a fishmonger from Larne? "Welcome to Larne The Wages Of Sin is Death"



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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2010, 12:49:32 PM »


well i can see your in the states , free in Europe

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2010, 01:09:45 PM »
well i can see your in the states

No I'm not.
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 01:12:05 PM »
He's in the part of the "States" where they smoke maple leaves.

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2010, 01:35:27 PM »
At midnight, dump the amplifier on the electronics recycling center's doorstep. :P

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2010, 01:43:36 PM »
quote from BCP : No I'm not


the other states , canada , or is it , Zimbabwe , Australia, New Zealand, Eastern Caribbean, Hong Kong,

Taiwan, Singapore, Ecuador, Panama , Brunei ,  Rhodesian  , Namibian  ,Fiji , Cayman Islands , Singapore ,

Guyanese , Trinidad and Tobago  , Brunei  , Belize  , Bahamian


 ;D did i miss where you live  ;D

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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 01:57:30 PM »
Hong Kong has states?  What are they 2 blocks by 2 blocks wide?

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 02:03:06 PM »
Hong Kong has states?  What are they 2 blocks by 2 blocks wide?


the other states , canada , or is it

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2010, 02:22:58 PM »
Israel is a state. Every sovereign nation is a "state", whether the official title includes the word or not.

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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2010, 04:16:35 PM »
quote from BCP : No I'm not


the other states , canada <snip>


OK. WE HAVE BEEN OVER THIS.

Canada was never annexed by the US. we are not a smegging state,  thank you. (technically we're a dominion, but I'm not sure if that precludes also being a state, since state is obviously from the word "estate" which (IIRC) essentially means a land holding, so a state is really a government land holding) I have no problem with the United States, obviously. I can handle "american" because technically we are in North America, But saying I'm/we're in the United States is analogous to if I was to say that Wales, Scotland, and Ireland were part of England. I know for a fact that Scottish and Irish folk dislike being told that "they are all the same" as England.

Difference being, Wales, Scotland, England and Ireland are all part of Great Britain.

Additionally, the other countries you named appear to all be former British Holdings, which have nothing to do with states at all. They were never considered "states" to britain as far as I'm aware; the moniker was originally used evidently to imply that Canada and the U.S are somehow one and the same. They are not. They are two different countries, and two different peoples, and I'll be damned if I'll let anybody try to tell me otherwise.

In fact, in a curious twist, it is in fact the UK that are the United States closest Ally (and I am not simply referring to statements by the former president of that nature, but rather referring to import/export and trade agreements, as well as investments into each others economies. Of course Canada is also an Ally to both nations but to actually call us a "state" of the US can only be based on our proximity; which is, if nothing else, a foolish thing to say, considering, you know, scotland and ireland and wales are so close to England... aww heck, let's call them ireshire and scotshire! what the heck, they are pretty much shires of England, right?

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2010, 04:33:53 PM »
quote by BCP

Difference being, Wales, Scotland, England and Ireland are all part of Great Britain.

WRONG,WRONG  ;D this is were the yanks and their cousins the canadians and half the world get it WRONG

Ireland is not part of GREAT BRITIAN but where i live is part of it because i live in NORTHERN IRELAND  . people

forget or do not know there is a border between us  . i thought the queen went to visit

her people in canada a few years ago and the french pres; went to visit his people to . doe's canada still

take part in the commonwealth games  ;)

only keeping you going , i know by my brother ( who lives near you i think ) how you canadians don't like

being called american's and belong to them , you really are part of GREAT BRITIAN  ;D and FRANCE  ;D

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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2010, 04:40:09 PM »
you really are part of GREAT BRITIAN  ;D and FRANCE  ;D

That's better. Well, except the french part. Only ones who would agree with that are those living in the province that doesn't even want to be part of Canada.

The Maple Leaf flag is cool but so was the red ensign... even if it was different only in colour from other commonwealth countries.
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2010, 04:48:16 PM »
That's better. Well, except the french part. Only ones who would agree with that are those living in the province that doesn't even want to be part of Canada.


yes the french state is or could be trouble for canada , i think the canadians don't mind the queen etc as long as they stay at arms length , your only 22 you will have to lighten up or you will be getting what i got , a heart attack at xmas  ;D , my bro lives in edmonton

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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2010, 06:19:50 AM »
Canada was never annexed by the US. we are not a smegging state,

Come on now every one knows that England is the 51st state and that Canada is the 52nd.
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Does any one know of any really good hiding places? I have a strong feeling that I will be needing one soon.  ;D
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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2010, 07:38:38 AM »
Come on now every one knows that England is the 51st state and that Canada is the 52nd.
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Does any one know of any really good hiding places? I have a strong feeling that I will be needing one soon.  ;D

i think you should hide , wait to BCP read's this , you could not hide in canada because it's not that big

not england , britian and we feel like it , bloody tony blair and his war to stay friends with g.w .bush
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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2010, 04:19:01 PM »
Canada is the 2nd Largest Country on the planet...2nd only to the former Soviet Union...
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2010, 04:24:49 PM »
Canada is the 2nd Largest Country on the planet...2nd only to the former Soviet Union...


no!! oh no , and i'm 64 and i did not know that , just shows you , one can learn something everyday  ;D

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2010, 09:34:32 PM »
Canada is the 2nd Largest Country on the planet...2nd only to the former Soviet Union...

Well, since the USSR broke up, wouldn't that make it the largest?
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2010, 10:52:25 PM »
The United States of America, the only country that represents its self as being an island instead of as a part of a continent on an official map  ;D


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« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2010, 11:07:25 PM »
Most, but not all, larger countries are divided into states, or some kind of smaller forms of more local government.  Canada has provinces and territories but they are more similar than different to what most countries call states.

The USA is often referred to as the States, but a whole lot of other countries also have states.

And that doesn't even begin to touch on what countries call them selves.  Sometimes states, Commonwealths, etc.

BTW, I'm sure someone would like to buy that amp and try to fix it.

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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2010, 01:55:21 AM »
top ten countries in area:

#1  Russia:        17,075,200 km sq. (6,591,027 mi sq.)
#2  Canada:        9,984,670  km sq. (3,854,082 mi sq.)
#3  United States: 9,631,418  km sq. (3,717,727 mi sq.)
#4  China:         9,596,960  km sq. (3,704,426 mi sq.)
#5  Brazil:        8,511,965  km sq. (3,285,618 mi sq.)
#6  Australia:     7,686,850  km sq. (2,967,124 mi sq.)
#7  India:         3,287,590  km sq. (1,269,009 mi sq.)
#8  Argentina:     2,766,890  km sq. (1,068,019 mi sq.)
#9  Kazakhstan:    2,717,300  km sq. (1,048,877 mi sq.)
#10 Sudan:         2,505,810  km sq. (967,243 mi sq.)
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2010, 02:23:14 AM »
Most, but not all, larger countries are divided into states, or some kind of smaller forms of more local government.  Canada has provinces and territories but they are more similar than different to what most countries call states.

The USA is often referred to as the States, but a whole lot of other countries also have states.

And that doesn't even begin to touch on what countries call them selves.  Sometimes states, Commonwealths, etc.

BTW, I'm sure someone would like to buy that amp and try to fix it.
There are actually a few U.S. states that are commonwealths (ex. commonwealth of Kentucky) but the only difference is the name.


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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2010, 06:03:42 AM »
I live in a Commonwealth, Commonwealth of Virginia, the laws are strange to people who don't live here. For instance, if you manage to evade the police and they have no proof that you where actually behind the wheel of the automobile in question, legally they can do nothing even if there is evidence that your vehicle was there. Like the Commonwealth of Kentucky however, you can own a "Machine gun" (any firearm that fires automatically) by registering with the state police. Open carry of firearms is also allowed. This, in contrast to the left coast (West Coast), and specifically, the State of California is like a whole 'nother country. Actually, let me rephrase that, California is like a whole 'nother country no matter which state or commonwealth you compare it too. The problem with the system of States and Commonwealths is that the local government bodies within each state and commonwealth can override the constitutional rights given to us. Example being, California, the second amendment and several other rights they have restricted or suspended.

The point being, the legality of anything is subject to question and legal interpretation by anyone in position to do so. So if your doing something questionable, the thing is not to get caught. IE, guitar amp in the dumpster, or, if you live in the USA, or several other countries you could possibly try to sell it online if it is a model that has any value. Laws vary, noone knows them all, except maybe the Rain Man.

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2010, 11:56:32 AM »
the only commonwealth is the british commonwealth , it is called the united states of america , according to

the forefathers who set it up

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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2010, 12:45:21 PM »
the only commonwealth is the british commonwealth , it is called the united states of america , according to

the forefathers who set it up

yes but a "state" is really it's own country; being united with a single government didn't remove their individual state governments.
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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2010, 12:50:50 PM »
yes but a "state" is really it's own country; being united with a single government didn't remove their individual state governments.
  and i agree totally with you , but as said above they are not commomwealths

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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2010, 02:40:59 PM »
  and i agree totally with you , but as said above they are not commomwealths

Commonwealth:A form of government, named for the concept that everything that is not owned by specific individuals or groups is owned collectively by everyone in the governmental unit, as opposed to a state, where the state itself owns such things; Approximately, a republic.


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1.    (initial capital letter) a group of sovereign states and their dependencies associated by their own choice and linked with common objectives and interests: the British Commonwealth.
2.    the Commonwealth. Commonwealth of Nations.
3.    (initial capital letter) a federation of states: the Commonwealth of Australia.
4.    (initial capital letter) a self-governing territory associated with the U.S.: official designation of Puerto Rico.
5.    (initial capital letter) English History. the English government from the abolition of the monarchy in 1649 until the establishment of the Protectorate in 1653, sometimes extended to include the restoration of Charles II in 1660.
6.    (initial capital letter) the official designation (rather than “State”) of four states of the U.S.: Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.
7.    any group of persons united by some common interest.
8.    the whole body of people of a nation or state; the body politic.
9.    a state in which the supreme power is held by the people; a republican or democratic state.
10.    Obsolete. the public welfare.

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2010, 02:55:25 PM »
He's in the part of the "States" where they smoke maple leaves.

No. But I hear what they REALLY are smoking in BC is better than what people get in the US.
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2010, 03:12:36 PM »
No. But I hear what they REALLY are smoking in BC is better than what people get in the US.

would it be the fur from baby seals they club  ;D

can't wait for the answers   :)

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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2010, 03:24:50 PM »
I love clubbing seals. nothing quite as fun as looking at the cute little faces of the baby seals as you smash their faces in with a tire iron.

My personal record was a 53 seal spree. aww man, I was soaked in seal blood, it was everywhere. I had to buy new shoes because there was so much seal brain.
In fact I believe I also managed to hit some

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They came at me from all four cardinal compass directions! They were asking me to give them a bucket, so I helped them to kick the bucket with my tireiron.

Wiping the walrus blood from my shoes, I then noticed on the horizon... a angry mob of LOLCATS!

So I put on my cleats and went stomping mad, so to speak.

the end.

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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2010, 04:11:14 PM »
i new i'd get answers like that  ;D , i'll wait for more

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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2010, 04:22:00 PM »
LOL                    my, my          how this thread has evolved! 

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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2010, 04:58:01 PM »
LOL                    my, my          how this thread has evolved! 

yes it is , from guitar amplifiers , to the murder of baby seals  :'(   :(  who did no one any harm  . the next thing

you will see is some one will think its cold  in canada during the winter , ha ha ha , cold we had 22 below this

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« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2010, 05:00:41 PM »
it doesn't get that cold here.

Although thye get -40 regularly every year up North.
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Re: Is it illegal to throw away guitar amplifiers?
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2010, 05:09:10 PM »
So I put on my cleats and went stomping mad, so to speak.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8710797866388017148
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« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2010, 08:31:57 AM »
very good , another cruel american/canadian pass time