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    How can you delete something, that isn't there?
    « on: May 11, 2010, 01:27:40 AM »
    I have three files on my desktop, that won't delete.

    Every time I tried to delete them they wouldn't delete. I tried unlocker assistant and I tried hijackthis but neither worked.

    How do I delete these three files?

    (here is a desktop capture of the files)
    http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9871/culprit.jpg

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    Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
    « Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 01:33:00 AM »
    can you rename them? if so try naming them so they don't end in a period. You might want to display file extensions when you do this, as well.
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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      Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
      « Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 01:43:53 AM »
      no I can't rename them.

      They were .flv files that I downloaded. whenever I downloaded an .flv movie, it would create the same file but with a period at the end of it (which are the files i'm trying to delete).
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      Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
      « Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 01:45:41 AM »
      when you try to delete them, do you get an error message? What is it?
      I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 02:13:47 AM »
        There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 05:53:09 AM »
        1) Try deleting them in safe mode
        2) Right click on one of the icons - then properties - where does it say it is located?
        3) Run a scan with MalwareBytes

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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 06:24:41 AM »
        What about the use of programs such as :
        File Deleter 1.018 .....etc
        « Last Edit: May 11, 2010, 06:35:02 AM by @@ »

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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 11:05:22 AM »
        Please download SystemLook from one of the links below and save it to your Desktop.
        Download Mirror #1
        Download Mirror #2

        • Double-click SystemLook.exe to run it.
        • Vista users:: Right click on SystemLook.exe, click Run As Administrator
        • Copy the content of the following box into the main textfield:
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        :filefind
        tutorial.flv
        splattertext
        cool_font.flv
        • Click the Look button to start the scan.
        • When finished, a notepad window will open with the results of the scan. Please post this log in your next reply.
        Note: The log can also be found on your Desktop entitled SystemLook.txt

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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 02:00:54 PM »
        You meant that the files will always appear to be there on every boot?

        Did you try right clicking the any empty space on the desktop with the mouse and then clicking refresh on the menu that pops up? Usually when I get the error of file not in the location anymore like you did, I just had to refresh the folder or location for which the file used to exist.

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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #9 on: May 12, 2010, 10:16:35 AM »
        Sounds like your trying to Delete something that was already deleted but not succcesfully. If its really that annoying just do s system restore to the latest checkpoint. (when u downloaded it)




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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 02:07:17 PM »
        Look carefully at the message and you will see the dot at the end of the filename.  This problem occurrs when third party software (e.g. a plugin in Mozilla Firefox) creates a file that has a 'dot' at the end without any further file extensions (e.g. 'mozilla_created_file.').

        Safe mode, security software, trying to rename the file in command prompt won't work. It seems the file system cannot reach the file by its name. However, it is possible to reach it with wildcards.

        Go to the problem folder in command prompt and run:

        C:\ProblemFolder> del *.*

        Then you should be able to delete the folder any way you want.

        Or else if you don't want to delete all the files in that folder,

        Start->Run "cmd"
        CD to the path that the problem folder or file resides in.
        DIR /A /X /P
        RENAME (the 8.3 filename for problem file/folder) (a non-problem name)
        EXIT

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        Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
        « Reply #11 on: May 12, 2010, 08:12:21 PM »
        yep, that's definitely what happened. I suspected the dot at the end had something to do with it, and that the shell was unable to deal with it or stripped it off before trying to find the file (and therefore couldn't find it).

        Just confirmed that by creating a file ending with a period with my file library- explorer refuses to delete the file- cmd refuses the delete it when I say "del testfile." Even trying to delete the file with Visual Basic's Built in "kill" statement gave me a file not found error.

        Even my library itself is unable to access the file (looks like I'll be checking that out later)

        but "del testfile.*" <does> work.


        I was able to determine the root cause of the entire problem- the "GetFileAttributes()" API Function returns -1 when passed a file name ending with ".". since "GetFileAttributes() is commonly used to determine file existence, it might be the cause of this issue. I know it's what is causing it in my library.


        I was able to make my Internal "fileExists" Function work and detect when the file was found. But when I tried to delete the file using the DeleteFile() API function it crashed, heh.
        « Last Edit: May 12, 2010, 08:24:22 PM by BC_Programmer »
        I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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          Re: How can you delete something, that isn't there?
          « Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 11:14:44 PM »
          ok well, I fired up CMD and cd'd my desktop, then did DIR A/ X/ P/. Then, once I saw the file names, I just did: 

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          C:\Users\XXXXX\Desktop>del TUTORI~1

          C:\Users\XXXXX\Desktop>del SPLATT~1

          C:\Users\XXXXX\Desktop>del COOL_F~1

          and voila! now they're gone. Thanks guys ;)

          end result: http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3956/endresult.png

          Also SystemLook is a very useful program so i'll definately be using that in the future. Thanks ^^

          PS: Do you like my wallpaper I made?
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