o.k. folks, sorry for the lack of info, got back to m8 ..the make is ..tiny but has a new case..he dosnt know tne model but it has a pentium3 cpu. it was running windows 2000. although it has a new case he wasnt messin with its insides before it went off....he's gonna check 4 hdd activity & the optical drive does have lights.... the screen has a flashing cursor at the top but wont do anything..he's tried to get the bios screen to no avail.... thanks for getting back to me