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    Re: Looking for new video card
    « Reply #45 on: June 16, 2007, 08:19:17 AM »
    just curious-

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    Re: Looking for new video card
    « Reply #46 on: June 16, 2007, 04:14:18 PM »
    You want proof that those power supplies wont fail on the first day?

    No.

    Thats an interesting contradiction.

    No, it is not.

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    This is what u said before "We were talking about unproven statements used as fact."

    Right.  I didn't say anything about them failing on the first day.

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    So are u withdrawing your request for proof?

    Well, so far -  you've offered nothing.    It's up to you.   If you want to state your opinion,  fine.      If you want anyone reading this to feel that you have even a modicum of knowing what you are talking about -  then go for it.


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    I give u my personal experience that suggest so.

    Right.  Which is the basis for your opinion.    If you want to back up and say that that is all that you are stating,  that's fine.

    Wrong. Experience is NOT opinion, it is fact. And even if it was souly  my opinion, it is still an opinion based of facts, not faith.


    ".... it is still an opinion...."

    Thought so.


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    I've has cheap no-name brand PSUs fail on me dozens of times...

    I've read many times that they tend to fail.    I'm glad you agree.

    Then all you have are opinions based on anecdotal evidence, which may have a high probability of being wrong.

    I forgot to say -   these people that said these things -  they are people that  I feel do know what they are talking about.    Search the forums here -  you'll get a feel for it.

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    And this time, they really are wrong.
    My cheap no-name brand PSU only failed because it's fan broke

    Your fan broke dozens of times?

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    (which was my fault). After I replaced the fan, the PSU regained it's life and has been working ever since. 5 years and going. And its only one of my many cheap no-name brand PSUs that have never actually died.


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    Most retailers use the cheapest PSUs possible. Dell constantly use 300w PSUs on their current machines.

    And....   this is in referrence to .... what?

    This, "Aren't some of those big brand names using proprietary power supplies?".

    Neither of your two sentences even address that question. 




    That reminds me -  you didn't answer the other question either.



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      Re: Looking for new video card
      « Reply #47 on: June 16, 2007, 10:14:48 PM »


      No, it is not.

      I happen to think it is.

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      So are u withdrawing your request for proof?

      Well, so far -  you've offered nothing.    It's up to you.   If you want to state your opinion,  fine.      If you want anyone reading this to feel that you have even a modicum of knowing what you are talking about -  then go for it.

      I've offered you my evidence. Why do u not cosider that proof?
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      I give u my personal experience that suggest so.

      Right.  Which is the basis for your opinion.    If you want to back up and say that that is all that you are stating,  that's fine.

      Wrong. Experience is NOT opinion, it is fact. And even if it was souly  my opinion, it is still an opinion based of facts, not faith.


      ".... it is still an opinion...."

      Thought so.

      Alright, do to this reply, I will not be continuing this conversation because I see that you are not even listening to me, but just miss-representing everything I say.

      It is an opinion BASED ON FACTS. Maybe you should have your eyes checked.. or your sense of decency.

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      I've has cheap no-name brand PSUs fail on me dozens of times...

      I've read many times that they tend to fail.    I'm glad you agree.

      Then all you have are opinions based on anecdotal evidence, which may have a high probability of being wrong.

      I forgot to say -   these people that said these things -  they are people that  I feel do know what they are talking about.    Search the forums here -  you'll get a feel for it.

      Thats completely un-fair. You take these people's words over mine without any proof?
      I know more than most people here about hardware.
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      And this time, they really are wrong.
      My cheap no-name brand PSU only failed because it's fan broke

      Your fan broke dozens of times?

      No, it never actually broke.



      Alright, so all in all this conversation can be summed up by you not willing to take my word for anything, and you trying to make it seem as if I dont actually know what I am talking about through miss-representation of what I say.
      If you come out of the conclusion that I am wrong, and try to do this little hit-job you tried to pull off, then you only need to be very ignorant to succeed.

      And btw, your sentence structure cannot be more difficult to understand. Why so many spaces between each word?



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      Re: Looking for new video card
      « Reply #48 on: June 18, 2007, 10:44:02 AM »

      Alright, do to this reply, I will not be continuing this conversation

      Excellent.  It is going no where in a hurry.

      Giving you the benefit of the doubt at the outset,  I asked you a few questions.       I'm really not surprised that you cannot address them - but I had to give you that opportunity.

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      because I see that you are not even listening to me,

      On the contrary,  I think that is what is frustrating you -  that I am listening to exactly what you say.

      Just think -  this is the internet.    There could be millions of people out there reading your posts.    ;)


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      but just miss-representing everything I say.

      Impossible.    It is all right there.   Just scroll up.   

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      It is an opinion BASED ON FACTS.

      Oh.  I thought it was based on your limited experiences.

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      Maybe you should have your eyes checked.. or your sense of decency.

      Oh,  that's rich.    :)

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      I forgot to say -   these people that said these things -  they are people that  I feel do know what they are talking about.    Search the forums here -  you'll get a feel for it.

      Thats completely un-fair.

      It is unfair that these people have been around here for a couple years or more?   With posts that number in the thousands.  Each.
      And you want to be compared to them?   You have been here 10 days and made 42 posts.     Your foundation is circular...  you tell us to believe you because you know what you are talking about, so we should believe you.


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      You take these people's words over mine without any proof?

      They have passed the test of time.   That's the proof.    Were they idiots, it would have shown up.   As a matter of fact,  idiots usually show up very early on.

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      I know more than most people here about hardware.

      There ya go.   ...  again.

      You're killin' me, man.     heheheheeh

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      My cheap no-name brand PSU only failed because it's fan broke
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      No, it never actually broke.

      It broke.  It never broke.  Actually.

      Now you're really killin' me.   heheheheeh


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      Alright, so all in all this conversation can be summed up by you not willing to take my word for anything, and you trying to make it seem as if I dont actually know what I am talking about

      Me?   I am incapable of making you seem like you don't know what you are talking about.

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      through miss-representation of what I say.
      If you come out of the conclusion that I am wrong, and try to do this little hit-job

      Between the two of us,   I'm not the one doing the "hit job" on you.

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      you tried to pull off, then you only need to be very ignorant to succeed.

      And btw, your sentence structure cannot be more difficult to understand. Why so many spaces between each word?

      I like it.




      Don't worry about answering the other question.   




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      Re: Looking for new video card
      « Reply #49 on: June 18, 2007, 11:01:46 AM »
      I have seen power supplies fail and take everything out, I have yet to see a mouse burn up a motherboard.  So go ahead with your cheap power supply that is rated for 500 watts and really at room temp only puts out 300 watts and is not certified to do more then run a P2

      TTGI is a cheaper power supply that can get the job done but don't go with a no name plenty of websites out there have power supply round ups that they have ran through the paces.  g/l

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      Re: Looking for new video card
      « Reply #50 on: June 18, 2007, 04:58:45 PM »
      2 + pages of non-productive discussion has ran it's course....

      Topic Closed.

      If anyone feels it should be re-opened PM me.

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