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surmise

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    Possible to set up dual routers?
    « on: November 13, 2007, 01:29:48 AM »
    I'll try to be as brief as possible, if any additional information is needed, please let me know:

    I'm currently using wireless connection, using a netgear router provided by time warner cable(rented it from the company). However, one person or the other often loses his connection and attempts to "fix it" by rebooting the router(in a primative way, by replugging the router itself).

    I play games fairly often, and this interrupts my play quite a bit for obvious reasons. I'd be in a middle of fighting a dragon and screen would freeze, etc. So I'm wondering if it's possible to set up another router that I can control and connect to. The router's also located in another room and the distance is too great to use a wire to connect as it is.




    If you don't want to read all that:

    I lag too much using a wireless. I want to set up another router in addition to the one I use right now; Hoping to get a router of my own so I can put it in my room and use an ethernet cable to make it "wired" connection. Is this possible?

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      Re: Possible to set up dual routers?
      « Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 03:40:06 AM »
      Wireless connection has a much (MUCH) shorter range than the distance you may reach with an ethernet cat5e cable. wireless = maximum 30 meters to your router (almost 90 feet), wired = maximum 100 meters to your router (almost 340 feet).
      If there are interruptions in service maybe the router is too weak to support the necessary connections and transfer rates and maybe it is necessary to buy a better router. How many persons are we talking about? I suppose it's not a company...
      If you want your router, you have 2 cases: 1) replace the present router with yours (this means it will physically placed in the same spot as the router you use now) or 2) make a contract with your local ISP an have your own connection, Dragon Slicer :)

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        Re: Possible to set up dual routers?
        « Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 12:37:23 PM »
        Get out you manual or use google to determine how to use the uplink port. My explanation tends to be a bit cryptic.
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        surmise

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          Re: Possible to set up dual routers?
          « Reply #3 on: November 13, 2007, 01:37:07 PM »
          There are currently five people living in a three-and-a-half bedroom house at the moment. I half-expected wireless connection to suck when I moved in(If you hadn't guessed by now, I'm a college student), but not this much(some people play fine on a dial up).

          Just two more questions:

          When my connection status tells me that I'm connected to the access point(assuming this is the router), but internet couldn't be found, does this mean that router's not at fault and internet connection itself is lost briefly?(This is what's the problem the majority of the time, It'd say I'm connected to access point, but internet couldn't be found and I'd get disconnected for about 10 seconds, very annoying).

          About getting my own connection(this question might be dumb): I thought "cable" connections used TV cable ports as transfer route for internet connection, doesn't this mean only one company may be used per household?  A better question would be... is getting my own connection as simple as calling up a company, saying I need a connection, and paying for the monthly service without having to request anything special?

          Thanks in advance and sorry for being such a newbie at this :(


          P.S. I just did a google search to find out "how to use the uplink port," but to be honest, I don't know what the heck it's talking about; It talks about hubs, bridges, and twisted cable 5 or something... So let me ask a possibly retarded question: If I buy a router and just plug it up and connect it to a random TV cable port, would it work or not(assuming it won't from the responses I'm getting, but worth asking :X)
          « Last Edit: November 13, 2007, 01:48:05 PM by surmise »

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            Re: Possible to set up dual routers?
            « Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 03:51:20 PM »
            The uplink port (cascading option) does not help if your first router has problems :)
            surmise, uplink port is used for connecting two or more switches/hubs (not routers). It is called "cascading". It does not help you, you don't have at your location many switches/hubs (2-3 or more). You have a router.

            When your connection status tells you that you are connected to access point and everything you said, it could be acces's point fault or WAN (internet) connection fault (this is the ISP part). You never know, but you may check it: connect directly to a computer, no "funny" router involved and see if the problem appears. If the problem manifests itself even without the router than it is something wrong with your connection and you can't fix it (it's ISP's job to fix this). If the problem does not reappear than the router is to blame.

            If your network connection is through tv cable... Only one company sends signal through their cable. If you want a new ISP, they will have to get to you with a new cable.

            Have you checked if these interruptions appear all the time? Or they do appear when everyone in the house is cramming to Internet? How many of you do use wireless? I suspect some use torrents and other "network bandwidth eaters".

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            Re: Possible to set up dual routers?
            « Reply #5 on: November 13, 2007, 03:52:25 PM »
            If I buy a router and just plug it up and connect it to a random TV cable port, would it work or not(assuming it won't from the responses I'm getting, but worth asking :X)
            You're saying, bypass the modem?  Nope, won't work. 

            I see Netgear has a support forum.  You might try it.

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              Re: Possible to set up dual routers?
              « Reply #6 on: November 14, 2007, 03:49:54 PM »
              I suspect some use torrents and other "network bandwidth eaters".

              I know for a fact that some people do use torrents in this house... Having said that, the problem rarely occurrs late evenings(late as in 3AM when everyone's asleep for sure) or afternoonish. I also know that some of these people download TV shows nonstop for whatever reason...

              So, a new question: Is there any way to restrict the amount of bandwidth they may eat up? I don't want anymore than anyone else, but I also don't want any less than anyone else either. I basically wish to "split" the internet equally rather than not-even-be-able to stay online reliably(I wish I had dial-up at times... this is almost a crime)

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                Re: Possible to set up dual routers?
                « Reply #7 on: November 14, 2007, 04:12:12 PM »
                If they are watching TV there is no interference with the network transmission, they are separate things. The do not watch on the internet, right? They are watching TV shows that could be watched even when the internet connection goes down. They may collapse at the same time, but this is rare, right?
                If the router you use does not have a traffic shaper solution included, you can't do anything. And I suspect your router being a "cheap" one, it does not have such things. "Cheap" is not necessarily a wrong thing; when we are talking about "expensive" routers we may reach the conclusion that they are "expensive" to set-up also ;) At least from a time perspective, we might end talking about how much do you need to learn before being able to set up such an "expensive" equipment.