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flashy23

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NTLDR is missing
« on: February 25, 2008, 09:05:45 PM »
Hey,

Recently I have been getting the NTLDR is missing press Ctrl Alt Del to restart message on my PC, I have tried to repair it using the XP disc but when it starts repairing suddenly a BLUE screen comes up and says IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and says something about disabling or uninstalling antivirus programs and then restarts. I have absolutely NO idea about computers so I am finding it increasingly difficult to get around this problem.

If there is anyone that has a way around this so I can start usiing my PC again it would be very much appreciated!!!

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Re: NTLDR is missing
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2008, 09:26:59 PM »

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    Re: NTLDR is missing
    « Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 03:22:51 PM »
    I know this may be insulting but please don't take it that way..........
    have you checked your floppy drive to make sure there is no disk in it?  I have done that numorous times..... ;D
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    Re: NTLDR is missing
    « Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 04:23:04 PM »
    Having a floppy in shouldn't produce this error message...it may however say a number of other things but not this one.
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    Re: NTLDR is missing
    « Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 04:36:15 PM »
    Two main reasons for IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error:
    - overheating
    - bad RAM

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      Re: NTLDR is missing
      « Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 03:51:18 PM »
      Having a floppy in DOES produce this error...........I am an idiot and I leave floppies in all the time.  If the pc boots from the floppy it will read NTLDR missing........trust me!!   :o
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      Re: NTLDR is missing
      « Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 08:23:52 PM »
      Having a floppy in DOES produce this error...........I am an idiot and I leave floppies in all the time.  If the pc boots from the floppy it will read NTLDR missing........trust me!!   :o

      Sorry...but this time you are wrong.
      The only way you would see this error by leaving a floppy in was if it was a corrupted XP file from the 6 disk setup...
      Since this isn't the OP's problem it's highly unlikely he or you would have seen this error message with a floppy in the drive.

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        Re: NTLDR is missing
        « Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 06:43:01 AM »
        I would love to sit here and argue but I'm not.All I am saying is I have done it and maybe you should try it if you are still unsatisfied.  Sorry flashy23 that there is a pissin match here while you are trying to find a solution to your issue.  Good Luck   ;D
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          Re: NTLDR is missing
          « Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 08:42:49 AM »
          I have to agree with Patio here, leaving a floppy in the drive will not produce a NTLDR error. A NTLDR error only occurs if the Windows bootloader encountered a problem. If you're booting from a floppy the Windows bootloader won't run at all. (Unless you have a copy of the bootloader on the floppy of course).
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            Re: NTLDR is missing
            « Reply #9 on: February 29, 2008, 08:51:32 AM »
            ok, you guys are right.  I have never taken a non bootable floppy disk and left it in the machine and rebooted it and seen the NTLDR is missing error.......I know......TRY IT FOR YOURSELF!!
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              Re: NTLDR is missing
              « Reply #10 on: February 29, 2008, 09:19:54 AM »
              Ok, here we go, I hate to do this BUT in the Computer Hope.com reference pages, (wait a minute, oh thats right we are in Computer Hope.com) here it is.....NOTE THE LAST SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Reference number: CH000465

              NTLDR is Missing.
              Issue:
              NTLDR is Missing.

              Related errors:

              Below are the full error messages that may be seen when the computer is booting.

              NTLDR is Missing
              Press any key to restart

              Boot: Couldn't find NTLDR
              Please insert another disk

              NTLDR is missing
              Press Ctrl Alt Del to Restart

              Cause:

              Computer is booting from a non-bootable source.

              Computer hard disk drive is not properly setup in BIOS.
              Corrupt NTLDR and/or NTDETECT.COM file.
              Misconfiguration with the boot.ini file.
              Attempting to upgrade from a Windows 95, 98, or ME computer that is using FAT32.
              New hard disk drive being added.
              Corrupt boot sector / master boot record.
              Seriously corrupted version of Windows 2000 or Windows XP.
              Loose or Faulty IDE/EIDE hard disk drive cable.
              Solutions:

              Computer is booting from a non-bootable source
              Many times this error is caused when the computer is attempting to boot from a non-bootable floppy disk or CD-ROM. First verify that no floppy diskette is in the computer
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                Re: NTLDR is missing
                « Reply #11 on: February 29, 2008, 09:37:56 AM »
                I didn't write that reference page nor have have I ever claimed the help pages are error free.
                I just tried to boot from a unbootable floppy. Got the bog standard "Remove disk or other media. Press any key to restart" message that I always get.
                If you're computer is giving you anything else there is something terribly wrong with its boot process since it's able to call the hdd bootloader during a floppy boot.
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                  Re: NTLDR is missing
                  « Reply #12 on: February 29, 2008, 10:40:02 AM »
                  Anyway, no need to argue about it anymore.  I have done it, I have seen it, (from the 3000 users I support), and the reference page even states it.  It's hard to eat crow when you are mistaken, but Trust me it happens! 
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                    « Reply #13 on: February 29, 2008, 12:04:40 PM »
                    >What happened? (How NTLDR works and why your PC can't find it)
                    When your computer starts, the BIOS attempts to find the primary hard drive's active partition to read the first sector for the MBR (Master Boot Record), it uses that info to load the rest of the OS.  For Windows NT4/2k/XP the MBR is pointed to the NTLDR (New Technology Loader) and it takes it from there.  If you get the "NTLDR is missing, press any key to restart" what's most likely going on is the BIOS either didn't look for the right drive, didn't find the right partition, it wasn't active, didn't find the MBR, or the MBR didn't list NTLDR in the right place,  the location of NTLDR changed, or you are looking at a hardware failure situation (memory/cables/drive/motherboard/etc).

                    The first thing to do is try to change back whatever hardware or software change you just made (this could be as simple as leaving a floppy disk in the drive or you need to reseat the cables). If the contents of the drive are especially important and you have no backups, I would recommend removing the hard drive, placing in an enclosure, and backing up the data first, in fact, backup all of your computers.<

                    My first thought about the discussion about the floppy thing is to never say can't happen about anything "windows" related.

                    >Make a NTLDR boot disk to get back into Windows.
                    The quick test to make sure your OS installation is still good is to create an MBR and NTLDR on a floppy disk and check if you can just boot back up into your system, this disk will check many of the partitions for a working windows installation.  Here are the instructions to do this:

                    1. Get a blank floppy/cd-r/usb (whatever is on it will be erased), and put it into a working computer.

                    2. If you have a working Windows machine download my fix: Floppy fixntldr.exe | CD-R fixntldriso.zip | USB ntldrusb.zip onto a working computer 
                    (What if I don't want to download a file from a website I don't trust?). (Experimental 64 bit WinXP Floppy 64ntflop.exe | CD-R 64ntiso.zip)
                    Do you remember if the broken computers had the Windows installation in "Windows"? If you can't remember just keep going (What if it was not named Windows but WINNT like in NT4 or 2000?) .
                    (If your backup system is NT4 or Windows 2000: What if my backup system is Mac / Linux or another alt OS?).

                    3. Make the new boot disk:
                    *Floppy: Run the fixntldr.exe file by double clicking it.  Click OK to overwrite the blank floppy disc in the working computer, you should see some screens about writing a new floppy disk. (If you don't like running an exe from me, you can run fixntldr_RawRite.zip and just replace the RawRite.exe file inside with one you trust) (now go to step 4)
                    *CD-R: extract the fixntldriso.zip file by right clicking it and choosing "Extract All" then Next>Next>Finish and then burn the ISO image onto a CD, if your computer does not allow burning of ISO image files, you can download ISO Recorder from http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm and then you can just right click the ISO file to burn it to the CD-R (now go to step 4)
                    *USB: Right click the ntldrusb.zip file and choose "Extract All" Next>Next>Finish
                    Then Insert your USB Stick into the working computer;
                    Double-click HPUSBFW.EXE in the ntldrusb folder;
                    Check "Create a DOS startup disk" and "using DOS system files located at" then press the grey button with the "...";
                    A box will come up asking you which folder to select, point it to the "dos system files" folder;
                    Press OK; Press Start; Press Yes; Let it run for just a few minutes till a new box comes up; Press OK; Press Close;
                    Open the "putonusb" folder, copy all the files, paste them onto the usb stick (just in the root of the drive, like E:\);
                    Eject the USB Stick; Remove it from your computer;
                    Place it into the computer with the "NTLDR is missing" issue, reboot it.
                    You will see the Windows 98 screen pop up for a second, then you will see a black screen with white letters prompting you to "replace boot sector of the drive C: (y/n)", press the y key;
                    It will go to a C:\ prompt, reboot the computer by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del; (now go to step 4)

                    4. Put the new floppy/cd-r/usb you have just created into the computer that gets the NTLDR is missing error message, turn the broken computer off.

                    Using the boot disk in the computer with the "NTLDR is missing" error.
                    Start back up the broken computer with the floppy/cd-r/usb inside it/plugged into it.  Once your computer gets past the BIOS screen your computer should try to access the boot disk and you should see a black screen with white letters (What if I don't see this screen?). that says:

                    1ST TRY THIS seleccione esto primero
                    2ND TRY THIS essayez ceci en deuzieme
                    3RD TRY THIS wahlen Sie diesen Third
                    4TH TRY THIS selezioni questo fourth
                    5TH TRY THIS selecione este fifth
                    6TH TRY THIS seleccione este sexto
                    7TH TRY THIS essayez ceci en septieme
                    8TH TRY THIS wahlen Sie dieses achte
                    9TH TRY THIS selezioni questo nono
                    10TH TRY THIS selecione este decimo

                    (I threw in some Spanish / French / German / Italian / Portuguese for international flavor.)

                    This file is set up to automatically select the "1ST TRY THIS" choice after 30 seconds.  Try it first, if it was the wrong selection, you will likely get one of these four errors:

                    1. Windows could not start because file "<Windows Root>\system32\hal.dll was missing or corrupt

                    2. Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk. Check boot path and disk hardware. Please check the Windows documentation about hardware disk configuration and your hardware reference manuals for additional information.

                    3. I/O Error accessing boot sector file multi(0)disk(0)fdisk(0)\BOOTSECT.DOS

                    4. Immediate reboot

                    If you get the immediate reboot or some other weird error, try pressing F8 at the "1st Try This" selection screen, it will give you a prompt where you can select Safe Mode, and then try the "1st Try This" option again.  Safe Mode is a special "minimal" version of Windows that doesn't load certain parts of the operating system that might have caused the problem.

                    One of the choices should eventually boot you back into Windows. (What if none of the options worked?) .

                    Use windows to fix the boot files on the hard drive.
                    If you got back into Windows, stop whatever you are doing and backup your most important information from this computer.

                    Now that you are done backing up the most important info, try to change back whatever you were last doing and boot normally, it that doesn't work, put the floppy back into the broken computer and double click the fixntldr.bat file on the floppy drive, if it asks you to overwrite a file, just type in y for yes (the file copies boot.ini, ntldr, ntdetect.com from the floppy to the C:\ drive and removes the read only attributes). That process take a few minutes, then remove the floppy and reboot.

                    If you are using the cd or usb solution, copy the boot.ini, ntldr, and ntdetect.com files to My Computer > Local Disk C:\ > and overwite whatever files might be there, then right click each file, choose properties, uncheck the Read Only attribute, and click OK.

                    If you get back into Windows again, you can change that "1st Try This" menu by going into Start > Control Panel > System > Advanced tab > Startup and Recovery section, Settings button > System Startup; then change the "Default Operating System:" to the selection that worked for you, and change the box that says "Time to display list of operating systems" to however many seconds you want (usually 1 second). Click OK twice.<  borrowed from   Miles Comer Advice