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    Re-occuring boot problem.
    « on: August 27, 2009, 01:48:48 PM »
    Dell System Dimension 4550 Series
    Pheonix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A08

    I just put a new hard drive in, and now the computer refuses to boot whatsoever.  The only screen I get to says.....

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    Diskette Drive 0 Seek Failure
    Primary Hard Disk Drive 1 Not Found
    Secondary Hard Disk Drive 0 Not Found
    Secondary Hard Disk Drive 1 Not Found

    Strike the F1 Key to Continue, Strike F2 to Run the Setup Utility

    Striking both F1 or F2 does nothing, you just hear some kind of error beep.

    I've always gotten this message with the old hard drive, however hitting F1 actually let you boot into that hard drive.  I want to be able to boot into this hard drive, and figure out why I get this message whenever I boot so I can 86 it all together.

    This computer was previously owned, so I don't know much about this history of the old hard drive.  I know the hard drive I'm trying to put in is pretty old and quite handled.

    Here is the old hard drive.
    http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/desk/ds120gxp.htm

    Here is the new hard drive.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144102

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    Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
    « Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 05:48:54 PM »
    Jumper the new HDD as master and remove all other drives.
    Make sure it's connected to the end connector of the ribbon cable.
    Re-boot a few times in a row and enter Setup to see if the BIOS is seeing it.
    Post back with the results...
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      Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
      « Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 07:40:29 PM »
      F2 enable Primary Hard Disk Drive 1  and reload the OS.

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        Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
        « Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 09:45:25 PM »
        I set the jumper to master.  The message has changed to.
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        Primary Hard Disk 1 Drive Not Found
        Secondary Hard Disk Drive 1 Not Found

        Strike F1 to continue, F2 to go to the setup utility.....
        And again, striking F1 or F2 does nothing.

        Also, Primary Hard Disk Drive 1 is already set to Auto in the BIOS.  That's the only choice you get, either "Auto", or "off".

        Edit:
        Setup Utility >>>>
        http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4550/syssetup.htm#1097056

        If it helps, I went ahead and wrote down what I get for my BIOS listings....
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        - Primary Drive 0 = Hard Drive
          Model: WDC WD800BB-22FJAI
          Drive Type: Auto
          Capacity: 80020 MB

        - Primary Drive 1 = Unkown Device
          Model: Unkown
          Drive Type: Auto
          Capacity: n/a

        - Secondary Drive 0 - CD ROM Reader
          Model: _NEC DVD+RW ND-2100AD
          Drive Type - Auto
          Capacity: n/a

        - Secondary Drive 1 - Unkown Device
          Model: Unkown
          Drive Type: Auto
          Capacity

        As you can see, the BIOS recognizes the hard drive, but I forgot all about a second CD Drive I removed may have changed the message I get on boot.  I had 2 CD-Drives, after messing with the PC a bit I only have 1 and it's set to master, and hooked up to the CD-RW IDE cable of the motherboard.

        Does anybody know why the strike F1, strike F2 message would be coming up in the first place though? It came up with the old hard drive that the bootloader was actually able to boot into.

        « Last Edit: August 27, 2009, 10:07:12 PM by aaaaaaaaaa »

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        Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
        « Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 10:26:57 PM »
        What are you trying to do?
        If that's a new (blank) hard drive then you will not be able to boot to it.
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          Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
          « Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 10:45:56 PM »
          I say 'new' just to distinguish it from the previous hard drive that was in there, which worked.

          This hard drive I'm using is like 5 years old, and the last time I used it had Windows XP Home Edition on it.

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          Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
          « Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 11:12:33 PM »
          Did you use it with the same computer or did it come from a different one?

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          Just re-read your first post.
          You will need to install a new operating system on that drive in order to boot to it.
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            Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
            « Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 11:15:02 PM »
            Nah, I've never successfully used it with this one.  It came from an old HP I used to have.

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            Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
            « Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 11:16:04 PM »
            You will need to install a new operating system on that drive in order to boot to it.
            Or you could put it back in the HP and use it.
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              Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
              « Reply #9 on: August 27, 2009, 11:33:57 PM »
              Is there a way to extract the data from it before a fresh OS install?

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              Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
              « Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 12:16:00 AM »
              When you install Windows it creates a Hardware Abstraction Layer that is unique to the hardware for you specific motherboard. You can not just throw a drive in a different computer and expect it to boot. This can only be accomplished if the two machines are identical or nearly identical.

              To save the data from that drive you could slave it in another working computer.

              http://www.dtidata.com/resourcecenter/2007/04/23/how-to-slave-hard-drive/

              Then you will have all of the data saved on the other computer which you can easily transfer via CD, flash drive, or share them on a network.

              Or you could boot to a Linux live CD and save the data to a CD or flash drive.

              http://lifehacker.com/192982/geek-to-live--rescue-files-with-a-boot-cd

              You can only save the data, not the programs. You will need the original disks that the programs came on.

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                Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
                « Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 02:37:37 AM »
                Thank you all very much for the help.

                Mission accomplished.

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                Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
                « Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 02:41:54 AM »
                How did you do it?
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                  Re: Re-occuring boot problem.
                  « Reply #13 on: September 21, 2009, 12:23:57 PM »
                  Sorry about never responding.

                  The problem ended up being I didn't know you had to reformat the drive before you use it with a different motherboard.  It was a drive that came with a manufactured computer.

                  Once I set up the Jumper settings the right way, hooked it up, and reformatted, it worked fine.