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    Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
    « Reply #60 on: November 17, 2009, 07:53:03 PM »
    Well I don't remember now exactly, but I'm sure the big chunk of unallocated space wasn't there! And even afterward, wouldn't that have shown up in Disk Management or Partition Master, etc?

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      « Reply #61 on: November 17, 2009, 07:59:04 PM »
      I know that everything was peachy until the very last step when it mentioned Diskpart for WinXP... went straight downhill from there.

      Finally got the pic! I've been messing with Disk 2 (the 320) so there it is. I have to step out and will be back in about 20. Hope to continue this when I return!


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      Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
      « Reply #62 on: November 17, 2009, 08:05:43 PM »
      You figured out how to post an image. ;D
      Disk 2 is a 320GB?  It's not an "As Is" Clone of Disk 1 and I have no idea where the remaining space has gone.

      Following this guide: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2345356,00.asp

      ... I used the free trial of Acronis' Migrate Easy 7.0. Yes, before cloning, the full 320GB was recognized by XP. I wasn't so worried since the last part of the guide said the partition could simply be extended. Tricky tricky, the guide also says (in other words) that it's much easier in Vista and complicated to nearly impossible for XP.
      Since you used the Free Trial version, why not use the free version from WD?  It may have other options and is sure to support WD, whereas the one you used, who knows?
      http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=703&sid=3&lang=en
         * Acronis True Image WD Edition (121MB)
      « Last Edit: November 17, 2009, 08:26:18 PM by Computer_Commando »

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        Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
        « Reply #63 on: November 17, 2009, 08:31:59 PM »
        At first, it was an exact copy and it worked too when I swapped drives. But since then, I've been deleting/creating partitions, and so on. So you see what I mean now? I'll try WD's version, but do you think the 320 will suddenly appear?

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        Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
        « Reply #64 on: November 17, 2009, 08:46:06 PM »
        1.  At first, it was an exact copy and it worked too when I swapped drives.
        2.  But since then, I've been deleting/creating partitions, and so on. So you see what I mean now?
        3.  I'll try WD's version, but do you think the 320 will suddenly appear?
        1.  If you can get back to there, that's you goal.
        2.  I do. 
        3.  I was looking at it while you were away.  Don't think it has any cloning options, but am not sure, Manual was not helpful.  Use the Trial Version if you think you can return to #1, if not use the WD version to restore the 320, then use the Trial.  If you can return to #1, then merging the unallocated space should be straight forward.  I want to see an exact copy with unallocated space like in the example. If you are successful, put it back inside the laptop, and perform the remaining operations there.  Doing it while USB is iffy and much slower.

        BTW, Disk1 has 4 partitions (ignore the small one at the end, a lot of partitioners leave it there for no reason I know of), the 3rd one is odd, probably links to the Dell partition, but may have to be at the end of the new one.  If you ever get to the point of 100GB allocated space, don't merge it, create a D-Drive and store all your data on it.
        « Last Edit: November 17, 2009, 08:57:32 PM by Computer_Commando »

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          Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
          « Reply #65 on: November 17, 2009, 09:00:55 PM »
          One hiccup...

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          1.  If you can get back to there, that's you goal.

          It worked, but... the 270 was still missing. If I didn't care that spent $$ for all that space in the first place, then I would have continued using the cloned 50.  ;)

          Ok, I'll try WD's tool and post what happens. Here goes...!

          Thanks for stickin' it out with me.  :)

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          Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
          « Reply #66 on: November 17, 2009, 09:05:48 PM »
          One hiccup...

          It worked, but... the 270 was still missing. If I didn't care that spent $$ for all that space in the first place, then I would have continued using the cloned 50.  ;)

          Ok, I'll try WD's tool and post what happens. Here goes...!
          You mean an "As Is" clone with no unallocated space?  If yes, then it didn't work.  If you don't see a full 320, then it has failed.  It should look like the sample pic from the instruction website.
           This is your goal. It has not worked until it looks like this:

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          Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
          « Reply #67 on: November 17, 2009, 09:25:34 PM »
          ...Ok, I'll try WD's tool and post what happens. Here goes...!...
          Found this in the Manual:
          Important: You can obtain the latest version of Acronis True
          Image WD Edition from our website (requires a WD drive serial
          number). To install your drive(s) without using this software, follow
          the “Alternate Instructions for Installing a Drive” on page 3.

          Acronis True Image WD Edition is a software that assists you with
          your hard drive installation and management. Its features include
          cloning, drive migration, drive deployment, image backup, and
          recovery. In addition, Acronis True Image WD Edition allows you to
          create bootable recovery media and full drive image backups that
          can be used to recover your entire system or to simply restore a file
          or folder. For further information, download the software and its
          corresponding user manual at http://support.wdc.com/retailkit.

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          Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
          « Reply #68 on: November 18, 2009, 10:25:17 AM »
          Can you post your Dell Service Tag?  No personal information is there.  I have a difficult time believing a 2 year old laptop only has a 60GB HDD.  Need the Service Tag to verify what was shipped.  I assume you bought it new?  Also, you you posting here on this same Dell laptop or a different computer?
          Look what I found; Add support for hard drives over 137GB.
          http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R121517&SystemID=INSPIRONI6400/E1505&servicetag=&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=10216&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=2&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=25&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&fileid=212557
          After reading the Guide in the download, I'm sure what the function is.

          Free bootable partition manager:  Parted Magic

          This may explain all the additional partitions:
          Recovery disc
          « Last Edit: November 18, 2009, 05:16:20 PM by Computer_Commando »

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            Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
            « Reply #69 on: November 19, 2009, 10:07:31 AM »
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            I have a difficult time believing a 2 year old laptop only has a 60GB HDD.

            From my order confirmation: 60GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505

            No joke!  :P Was ordered in May 2006. But why does it matter what the existing hard drive's capacity is? I remember there were options for larger sizes, but I didn't think I would need much space, ha! I did buy it new and I've been posting both from this laptop and another.

            I don't think it's any use to re-clone because any program I use is still only seeing 50G on the "320" hard drive. The IT Director at my office is looking at it today, but I don't think he has any other suggestions rather than what I've see on this forum.

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            After reading the Guide in the download, I'm sure what the function is.

            Is there a glimmer of hope? I'm not able to download and view the guide now while at work, but will check it out later. Thanks for finding this! :D

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            Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
            « Reply #70 on: November 19, 2009, 11:10:54 AM »
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            1.  But why does it matter what the existing hard drive's capacity is?
            2.  The IT Director at my office is looking at it today, but I don't think he has any other suggestions rather than what I've see on this forum.
            3.  Is there a glimmer of hope?...
            1.  May explain why the "add-in" is not installed and why no apps from Windows see all of the external 320.
            2.  Never met one that did. ;)
            3.  If the "add-in" doesn't work, nothing will work from within Windows.  Put the 320 into the Dell, boot to Parted Magic, delete all the partitions and start over.  I tried Parted Magic today, to see if and how it works (no WD drives in my computers, except my USB WD 60 Passport, same 60 as yours), if I ever move past WinXP (Partition Magic does not support OS past WinXP).  I did not try attaching a USB drive but it does support external drives.  Parted Magic boots from the CD, loads everything to RAM, then you remove the CD.  Clone from the external 60 to the internal 320.  Boot the 320, then install the "add-in" if necessary.  The "add-in" may be only necessary for external media over 137GB.
            « Last Edit: November 19, 2009, 11:24:36 AM by Computer_Commando »

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            Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
            « Reply #71 on: November 19, 2009, 11:56:11 AM »
            Parted Magic Update
            I have booted to Parted Magic and am typing this from it!  It's a GUI desktop, Linux OS based.
            It's able to connect to the network (thru Start Network icon) and start Firefox, Google is default homepage.
            I'd give you a screenshot, but it has no tools.  It's a very limited OS.  Total RAM usage is 125MB.
            Parted Magic is able to see all USB drives, including flash cards.  I see no drive functions, i.e. cloning options, only Partition functions:  Delete, Resize/Move, Copy.

            This may actually be better.  Since you're not booted to the 320, delete partitions on the 320, then copy 1 partition at a time from the USB 60, from the beginning to end in order.

            If computer BIOS does not support 48-bit LBA, nothing will work, except a BIOS update, if there is one.
            The full capacity of EIDE drives larger than 137GB (128GB binary) is not recognized in Windows 2000/XP.

            What version do you have?
            http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/previousversions.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&SystemID=INSPIRONI6400/E1505&releaseid=R158849&formatid=-1&deviceid=10430&formatcnt=1&dateid=-1&releasetype=BIOS&servicetag=&typeid=-1&catid=1&libid=1&impid=-1&osl=en&vercnt=9&os=WW1
            « Last Edit: November 19, 2009, 01:26:03 PM by Computer_Commando »

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            Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
            « Reply #72 on: November 19, 2009, 02:04:43 PM »
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            Look what I found; Add support for hard drives over 137GB.
            http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R121517&SystemID=INSPIRONI6400/E1505&servicetag=&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=10216&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=2&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=25&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&fileid=212557
            After reading the Guide in the download, I'm sure what the function is.

            Great Work, Computer_Commando.
            That is the exact problem.
            He has to to apply the fix.
            Reboot the system.




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              Re: Full capacity not recognized on new hard drive.
              « Reply #73 on: December 02, 2009, 09:44:34 AM »
              Just wanted to drop a note and express my thanks through all of this! I am currently waiting for the new hd drive (RMA exchange through NewEgg) to arrive and I will be sure NOT to clone a darn thing! This time around, I will simply swap the drives and attempt a clean install of W7 (even though the license is for an upgrade). We'll see how that goes!

              Many many thanks for all your brainstorming efforts.

              I might be posting again for a new project: upgrading a Dell Inspiron 530 desktop...

               ;D

              - Jasmine