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mebibytes and gibibytes
« on: January 07, 2010, 01:56:38 PM »
mebibytes and gibibytes
What is the proper pronunciation of these words?

The spell checker here says they are wrong.
But they date back to 1998.

Does anybody really use these terms?
Well, in the forward of the Image for Windows User Manual anybody will see a reference to those terms.

Until now, this geek never reread of them.
Was I asleep for twelve years?

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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 02:59:52 PM »
use a "G"...
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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 03:01:14 PM »
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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 04:01:33 PM »
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So, when you read about the data storage size convention used by Windows, the units will appear as mebibytes (MiB) or gibibytes (GiB), even though Windows itself refers to the units as megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB).

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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 05:24:44 PM »
the whole mebibytes/gibibytes thing was a why to try to unconfuse users.

If it confused you, then imagine how a average PC user feels.

Originally they had to understand that kilobytes, megabytes, etc were 1024 times the previous amount (1MB=1024KB, 1KB=1024 Bytes etc). And of course, a number of these people decided at some point that this was too confusing. NOO! mega and kilo are metric prefixes! we MUST CLEANSE THE INDUSTRY!

So, they <changed> the meaning of MB and KB; you know, the meaning of words that have been used in software applications for nearly 20 years and decided that the new prefixes "mibi" and "kibi" and so forth are the New meanings for the prefixes to mean binary multipliers.

Sure, it's elegant. But it's a little too late now to try to restructure the words used by the computer industry into something elegant. We use Kilobyte. I call a Kilobyte 1024 bytes. I call a Kilometer 1000 meters. It's not that difficult to understand. But apparently some eggheads decided that we need a <new> standard, with complete disregard for the fact that software has been using these terms and people have been learning them and using them for the previous 20 freaking years.

That being said; remember the PCI Vs VL-BUS thing? VESA was behind VL-BUS... when was the last time you've heard their name? If the SI insists on redefining terms that are already in use for years they aren't going to be as well respected. the SI needs to respect De Facto standards when they go to make then De Jure; they can't simply redefine what terms used for years mean and actually expect people to give a *censored*.
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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 05:36:05 PM »
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mebibytes and gibibytes
What is the proper pronunciation of these words?

Who Knows?  It may be possible that only a dozen people at MS have ever tried to pronounce these words.

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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 05:37:52 PM »
step one would be to spell them correctly.

they are mibibytes and kibibytes.
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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2010, 05:43:38 AM »
I call a Kilometer 1000 meters.

I call a kilometre 1000 metres, but then I only live 22 miles from the country that invented them.

a meter



a metre (folded up so I could get it into the image)



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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2010, 08:45:40 AM »
Quote from: wikipedia
Two spellings of the name of the unit are common in English: metre is preferred among the majority of countries in the English-speaking world except in the United States, where the spelling is meter.

Oh dear...

forgive me. It's hard to remember which spelling is the american for some words sometimes, especially being so close to them.
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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2010, 09:05:12 AM »
But there's only one way to spell antidisestablishmentarianism...
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Re: mebibytes and gibibytes
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2010, 09:35:04 AM »
But there's only one way to spell antidisestablishmentarianism...

Yes, with a capital Q!
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