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don cole

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    computer crash
    « on: October 02, 2010, 05:56:51 PM »
    With PhoenixBios 4.0 Release 6.0

    In dos when I hit Alt-Enter the dos window goes full screen (as it should).

    When I hit Alt-Enter again the screen goes black: Alt-Ctl-Del does nothing.

    Pressing power does nothing.

    The only way out is to unplug the computer. When I plug it back in I get:

    ERROR
    0271: Check date and time settings
    ERROR
    0251: System CMOS checksum bad - Defult configuration used

    PhoenixBios 4.0 Release 6.0
    WindowsXP

    Help

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    Re: computer crash
    « Reply #1 on: October 02, 2010, 06:29:06 PM »
    You might of just found that the CMOS battery in the computer just went flat on ya and needs replacement?

    CMOS will be thrown into default settings and date/time will not be kept, those errors 0271 and 0251 are likely to appear.
    It's a lithium round battery on the motherboard, check motherboard book for details.
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      Re: computer crash
      « Reply #2 on: October 02, 2010, 07:22:05 PM »
      Thank you Annaboli.

      I changed the battery and it still does the samething.

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      Re: computer crash
      « Reply #3 on: October 02, 2010, 08:59:21 PM »
      It's Azza as in Aaron - internet slang. No problem.

      Sorry it didn't help, worth a try at least as it's would of been the easily solution to solve.
      With taking the battery out for 5 or more minutes, it will reset BIOS.
      You would need to enter the BIOS and set it up again once the battery has been replaced.
      Also it should ask to set the date and time again.

      If that doesn't help, hope someone else might have a better idea!
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      Re: computer crash
      « Reply #4 on: October 02, 2010, 10:36:54 PM »
      From Smart Computing.

      This “0251” error indicates that the CMOS (complementary metal-oxide semiconductor; a memory chip that holds data the computer needs each time it starts, such as the current time and the BIOS [Basic Input/Output System]) has become corrupted or damaged, typically because of one of these three reasons: A BIOS update has gone awry, a recently installed program incorrectly modified the BIOS, or the computer battery is running out of power.

      Since you have changed the battery (it was new wasn't it) have you installed any new software or done a BIOS upgrade?

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      Re: computer crash
      « Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 01:59:17 AM »
      This can be caused by a fair number of things. Instead of trying to Alt-Enter to get out of full screen, type "exit" at the prompt and see what happens.

      I've seen it suggested often to actually go into the BIOS and tell it to set everything to default settings when this happens. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

      If it doesn't, download memtest86 and run it overnight and make sure there isn't a problem with your RAM. While RAM shouldn't directly effect this, I've seen a few cases where the RAM had errors and replacing/removing made this problem stop. Not sure why, but like I said, I've seen it reported as a cause a few times.

      Another common suggested cause, as rthompson already pointed out, is flashing the BIOS or the BIOS has somehow been corrupted or changed in a way it didn't like. As a last resort, you could try downloading a BIOS update (either a new or old version) and try to overwrite the corrupted BIOS. Do this at your own risk, as I can't guarantee it will fix your problem or that it won't make it worse or kill it altogether.

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        Re: computer crash
        « Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 08:39:15 AM »
        rthompson80819 thank you for you reply,

        I like you three thins thery.

        It got me thinking the main thing I did when this problem started was:

        CHANGE COMPUTERS.

        I was using a Dell L100R

        WinXP Service Pack 1

        and moved to a faster

        HP Pavilion 05

        WinXP Service Pack 2

        I know I goofed up, I through out the Dell.

        But before I tost I kept the last Belarc Advisor and copied all the
        files onto another computer.

        I don't know if it ever worked on the HP.

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        Re: computer crash
        « Reply #7 on: October 03, 2010, 08:48:50 AM »
        Not really sure what relevance, if any, that has to your current situation...

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          Re: computer crash
          « Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 08:39:20 PM »
          Not really sure what relevance, if any, that has to your current situation...

          I was wondering if changing from Windows service pack 1 to service pack 2 would cause my situation.

          Also I tried using esc insted of ctl-alt-del and it worked once.

          The next time I hit ctl-alt-del it went to full screen then I hit esc again an it crashed.

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          Re: computer crash
          « Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 07:13:36 AM »
          Did you try typing "exit" like I suggested?

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            Re: computer crash
            « Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 07:46:58 PM »
            I can type 'exit' before or after I exit my program.

            If I do it before the program won't accept 'exit'.

            After I close my program the screen goes black there is no cursor and typing doesn't

            do anything.

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            Re: computer crash
            « Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 11:17:59 PM »
            What program? You never mentioned any program before this.

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              Re: computer crash
              « Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 12:24:11 PM »
              http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/uploads/newweek.zip

              The program is Newweek.exe

              Before you blame the program remember it was working ok on my old Dell.

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              Re: computer crash
              « Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 12:45:36 PM »
              404 error on the link.
              I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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              Re: computer crash
              « Reply #14 on: October 07, 2010, 12:57:22 PM »
              It's Azza as in Aaron - internet slang. No problem.

              I like Annaboli better