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PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
« on: December 09, 2010, 07:56:03 PM »
PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
http://gawker.com/5709579/paypal-busted-for-bogus-wikileaks-excuse
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Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 08:38:00 PM »
Not sure why people are making such a big deal about this.  "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" applies to the internet as well.
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Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 10:20:05 PM »
Not sure why people are making such a big deal about this.  "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" applies to the internet as well.
CBMatt, that is what they should have said.

But no, they tell a story they can not document. So it is a 'snow job', we are not being told what really happened.  If they are going to lie to us, that need to improve their skills.

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Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 10:31:10 PM »
So, let me get this straight; some nosey reporter was getting in their face, they gave a quick reason...

And now we're the victims? What?
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2010, 02:09:40 AM »
I really don't understand why it matters what they said.  They obviously don't want to be associated with a group that they consider unethical and that's their right.  Most people don't always give straight answers for why they do everything, so I don't see why we should expect businesses to be any different, considering that they are run by people.  Everyone's crying about Wikileaks' rights, but apparently those who don't support them shouldn't have their rights.
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Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 06:12:11 AM »
I really don't understand why it matters what they said.  They obviously don't want to be associated with a group that they consider unethical and that's their right.  Most people don't always give straight answers for why they do everything, so I don't see why we should expect businesses to be any different, considering that they are run by people.  Everyone's crying about Wikileaks' rights, but apparently those who don't support them shouldn't have their rights.
Couldn't agree more!

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Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 06:25:13 AM »
I really don't understand why it matters what they said.  They obviously don't want to be associated with a group that they consider unethical and that's their right.  Most people don't always give straight answers for why they do everything, so I don't see why we should expect businesses to be any different, considering that they are run by people.  Everyone's crying about Wikileaks' rights, but apparently those who don't support them shouldn't have their rights.
I also couldn't agree more. 

I watched the video, which was a quite interesting.  PayPal has been a great success and has a great vision for continued growth. 

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    Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
    « Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 08:19:51 AM »
    Not having any legal training i cannot know if this fact has any pertinence to "PayPal" terms and conditions of operation and service. However it may alter the things some may assume are "their rights" (PayPal's). They are a publicly traded company and i suggest that being so may include stipulations as to what they can and cannot do in terms of service provisions. In any event from my reading of the linked article it seems their stated reason for their action is being denied by the alleged source of their stated reason.Apart from whether it is something they can or cannot do doesn't that emulate the actions of some of the named parties of what "Wikileaks"  is on about? If their reason for denying the access to Wikileaks is something they believe in i believe it to be incumbent on them to tell the truth. As the late Will Rogers stated "one thing about telling the truth is you don't need a good memory". It is entirely possible that if Paypal has falsified it's reason for taking action as it appears  they have this story make have legs of it's own and rise to a level of interest that could have been avoided if they had stated the truth.truenorth

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    Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
    « Reply #8 on: December 10, 2010, 08:25:42 AM »
    I also couldn't agree more. 

    I watched the video, which was a quite interesting.  PayPal has been a great success and has a great vision for continued growth.

    Yes, you are right.
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    Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
    « Reply #9 on: December 10, 2010, 08:27:41 AM »
    Good morning,
    This is a disclaimer. The decision to put this item on a computer or forum was mine alone and does not represent the views of the administration. At no time was it my intent to lend support to the site that has been accused of illegal activity. Furthermore, it was not the intent to besmirch the reputation of PayPal or other Internet services that have been mentioned in news articles recently.
    Of course, the idea of free speech is a great concept. But with freedom comes responsibility. Encouraging rumors and unsupported accusations that can hurt the general good is an abuse of a freedom.
    As has been noted, Internet service companies such as Amazon and pay Paul and others have contributed much to our pleasurable experience of using the Internet. Unfortunately, the Internet is also used by some who apparently wish to tear down and destroy. I deeply regret any comments I have made that would encourage such negative activity.

    Thank you,
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    Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
    « Reply #10 on: December 10, 2010, 04:12:38 PM »
    No worries, Geek, you haven't caused any harm here.  We're just having an exchange of ideas and opinions, which I think should be encouraged as long as we are all respectful of each other.  Humans are curious by nature, so when we are denied details of a certain situation (especially one receiving media attention), it makes sense for people to start making speculations.
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    Re: PayPal Busted for Bogus Wikileaks Excuse
    « Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 07:22:29 PM »
    CBMatt, Thanks for your kind words. At first I was curious. Then I saw how this story is going where I don't want to go.
     Here is what you find if you Google just two words.
    Amazon Paypal

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    By Ian Shapira
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, December 9, 2010; 8:30 PM

    Internet giants Amazon and PayPal fended off multiple online attacks yesterday by sympathizers of the anti-secrecy Web site WikiLeaks. The online retailer and the payment service, both of which appeared to function smoothly yesterday, incurred the wrath of hackers who all week have been launching retaliatory attacks against them because they had severed business ties with WikiLeaks.
    And they have a video. And no, I am not gong to put up the link. Just Google it if you want to watch the Bloomberg editorial.