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WillNeedsHelpFast

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    Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
    « Reply #30 on: December 15, 2010, 09:41:42 AM »
    Just a tip before you go through the memory Dx. Check to make sure the voltage required by the memory is what the memory is recieving. Im sure you already checked to make sure it is an approved vendor?

    ???

    I do this how?

    I bought this computer from a local computer shop, its HP. He added my graphics card and memory but I dont know if it was something he bought and added stuff for or if fully custom built.
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      « Reply #31 on: December 15, 2010, 09:55:51 AM »
      Pull out a memory stick, look for the voltage requirement, brand of memory.

      Locate maker of motherboard, go to website, download approved memory vendor list. Check to make sure your memory is on the list. Also check to see what the max memory voltage is for the motherboard. It should all be in the manual.

      I realise Im jumping in on the end but from my experience, this is easier than running a memory DX for 8 hours only to get a confirmation of what is suspected.

      If its not on the list, double check the voltage on the memory, and make sure it is getting that through the bios. To check in the bios, boot and go into the bios, look in your user manual for instruction. BUT!! make sure you processor and MB can handle the voltage if you change it. Youll have to do some online research on your processor.

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        Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
        « Reply #32 on: December 15, 2010, 09:59:41 AM »
        Pull out a memory stick, look for the voltage requirement, brand of memory.

        Locate maker of motherboard, go to website, download approved memory vendor list. Check to make sure your memory is on the list. Also check to see what the max memory voltage is for the motherboard. It should all be in the manual.

        I realise Im jumping in on the end but from my experience, this is easier than running a memory DX for 8 hours only to get a confirmation of what is suspected.

        If its not on the list, double check the voltage on the memory, and make sure it is getting that through the bios. To check in the bios, boot and go into the bios, look in your user manual for instruction. BUT!! make sure you processor and MB can handle the voltage if you change it. Youll have to do some online research on your processor.

        Ya lost me. Completly.

        I dont know where a memory stick is at all...

        Ive gotten the reports for my motherboard, I posted it a page or two back, I dont have a clue where to go or what to look for. I cant even tell the name or vendor.

        Im like, inexperienced. I only know the very stupid stuff like, how to create a shortcut for your porn folder hidden in the back of your C drive, etc. Im not very educated with computers.
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          Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
          « Reply #33 on: December 15, 2010, 10:05:02 AM »
          ok then,

          Never mind.

          If one of the other posters reads this and agrees, hopefully they can instruct you through it. I gotta get back to work.

          Sorry

          Good Luck!

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            Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
            « Reply #34 on: December 15, 2010, 10:20:12 AM »
            ok then,

            Never mind.

            If one of the other posters reads this and agrees, hopefully they can instruct you through it. I gotta get back to work.

            Sorry

            Good Luck!

            Thanks, the help is appreciated. Hopefully I can get all this fixed and maybe learn a thing or two along the way. I didnt know about all these programs and Im learning more as we go.

            Edit: Recently noticed. This happened most while I was playing a game called Face of Mankind.

            Now it never did this before, and I thought it was the game so I reinstalled, and still same problem. I know its not the game, but it happens more and quicker when Im playing the game (I havent played any other games). Also I noticed it happened when my brother tried to convert some videos over to his ipod in which he had Vuze, Itunes, Msn, and Internet up.

            I want to confirm, is it out of the bag if this is a heat issue? Or something related, as it seems when Im running alot it goes h aywire. Like when I play FoM. Currently I have malware bytes, and IE with 4 tabs going and it hasn't done it in a long time. Ideas?
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            Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
            « Reply #35 on: December 15, 2010, 10:27:30 AM »
            Don't worry about the voltage.

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              Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
              « Reply #36 on: December 15, 2010, 10:53:59 AM »
              Don't worry about the voltage.

              Alright, I've posted in the malware section, Im still trying to get a CD. Does it really matter the type?
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              Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
              « Reply #37 on: December 15, 2010, 11:23:49 AM »
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              Im having a problem and he said to run a RAM Diagnostic, well to do that I have to burn an ISO to a CD and boot.
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              Is there a specific type of CD like CD-RW that I need?
              No. any kind of burnable Disc that works with your drive. There is no such thing as a CD-R "for music" that's just marketing bullcrap to try to charge more for them. All CD-Rs are functionally identical and will serve this purpose equally well.

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              Once I have the burnt disk in my drive, do I restart and it'll boot to that disk or what?
              Yes. Worst case scenario you would have to change the boot order in the CMOS setup.

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              Im sorry if this really isn't your domain, but <*SNIP*>
              It isn't not my domain. I saw this thread and I've been following it, but I haven't posted anything because I would undoubtedly explain myself in circles (no offense). Luckily you managed to catch me in a good mood :P, however, as a result of that (and attempting to prevent myself from having to explain a lot later on) this may be a bit long.



              Basically, it boils down to this: you're having Blue screen issues, <or> possibly reboot issues without a BSOD (it's hard to tell)

              After some guidance, you were able to provide some details; it's caused (at least in one case) by cmuda.sys, your Sound driver. If all the reports in BlueScreenView are the same driver, you can bet it's probably not memory.

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              So my problem is malware, thats why I keep restarting like this? I used malware bytes to remove it and it said it did. But is malware really the reason?
              No. He never said that; when you mentioned that your AV scan found a threat, it means that yes, this could be caused by malware, but there is no black and white answer to that. cmuda.sys for example could be infected. (and no, your installed AV saying it's clean doesn't mean it is; driver-based viruses can be particularly difficult to detect).

              The steps and suggestions given are not all designed to help you solve your problem, most of them are just attempts to try to narrow down the cause and (earlier) get information about the computer. This is no different with the malware scan. The problem can be caused by malware. eliminating that as the cause leaves Memory, and software. Memory can be eliminated by performing a memory test, and software can be troubleshot by trying different drivers.

              An an additional note: you keep refusing to perform some tasks (more specifically the recent suggestion to check your memory hardware) on the basis that you aren't familiar with computers. Nobody starts out familiar with computers. Often times they have to learn about stuff in exactly this fashion- troubleshooting on their own or having to do stuff for the first time. Anecdotal example: many moons ago I hadn't the first clue really about computer hardware. I didn't even have a computer, but then one day I dug out a ancient PC-AT from the closet and my adventure began. It refused to boot, so I had to determine the cause. I didn't have no fancy internet or anything, so I ended up just taking the case off and inspecting the insides; making sure everything was connected snugly, and so forth. turned out the graphics card (and ancient Hercules Monochrome adapter) wasn't seated all the way. And that was my first hardware fix- I had zero experience but 100% success.

              Many people think that computers are confusing. When you try to look at the big picture, yes, they can be overwhelmingly complicated. Perhaps I had the benefit of working with older hardware  that was less so, but whatever the case, the modular design both helps one learn about this stuff in small bites as well as troubleshoot modularly. your symptoms can be cause by any number of issues, and so far attempts are being made to ascertain what  that cause is. Nobody knows what it is, if we knew what the cause was we wouldn't be getting you to run memory diagnostics and malware scans.

              If the memory test comes back with any bad (any at all, even a single one) after a few passes, then you probably need to replace the memory sticks (which are a lot more expensive then a few CDs). You could do it the way pcjoseph suggested but I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense, since from what I gather this is not a  symptom that has always occured with the PC but has only recently started doing it. RAM doesn't change brands/timings while in the machine.
              If the memory tests clean, then you would follow the malware steps, and eventually be guided through cleaning your computer by a malware expert who will at some point declare you clean. This may fix your problem; and it may not. either way, you've eliminated malware as the culprit.

              At that point you'd continue to eliminate various possibilities; updating the sound driver, for example.

              I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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                Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
                « Reply #38 on: December 15, 2010, 11:37:06 AM »
                @BC - Thanks.

                However, with my CD problem, I dont understand. I have this CD here, I put it in and I've tried to burn it to the disk and it just doesn't understand theres a disk there. It tells me to put it in but there already is.
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                Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
                « Reply #39 on: December 15, 2010, 11:52:37 AM »
                @BC - Thanks.

                However, with my CD problem, I dont understand. I have this CD here, I put it in and I've tried to burn it to the disk and it just doesn't understand theres a disk there. It tells me to put it in but there already is.

                Alright-

                What program are you using to burn the ISO?

                I recommend  imgburn myself. Also, make sure the disk you are burning is in fact a blank disc.
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                  Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
                  « Reply #40 on: December 15, 2010, 12:02:49 PM »
                  Alright-

                  What program are you using to burn the ISO?

                  I recommend  imgburn myself. Also, make sure the disk you are burning is in fact a blank disc.

                  Yes its blank. My brother hadn't used it yet (was at the bottom of his blank CD stack).

                  I was using iso recorder.

                  With this img burn I have the disk in, and it up and ready. I have the iso selected. But I cant write it.

                  Bottom left says "Device Not Ready (Medium Not Present)"

                  Heres a SS:

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                    Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
                    « Reply #41 on: December 15, 2010, 02:14:12 PM »
                    I've tried multiple CD's, I dont think it's realizing I have one. A few of these CD's are different types, the only thing about them that is similar and that with my knowledge is because they are CD-R and not CD-RW, but I dont think that really matters.
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                    Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
                    « Reply #42 on: December 15, 2010, 04:46:31 PM »
                    Buy a brand new blank CD for cryin out loud...instead of borrowing used ones.
                    It aint gonna cost that much for a 10 pack.

                    PS. Your burner may be failing...how old is it ? ?
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                      Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
                      « Reply #43 on: December 15, 2010, 05:15:34 PM »
                      Buy a brand new blank CD for cryin out loud...instead of borrowing used ones.
                      It aint gonna cost that much for a 10 pack.

                      PS. Your burner may be failing...how old is it ? ?

                      This stack of CD's we have is like a variety of new ones, theres no way they're at fault. I think it may even be my burner, but I dont know how old it is, I didn't build the computer, a guy at a local computer shop said he had it and was going to add a graphics card and some memory and sell it to us, so we decided to do that. I dont really know origin. Its still possible because we've tried burning music to those different CD's and none of them worked.

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                      Re: Computer Restarts Randomly?
                      « Reply #44 on: December 15, 2010, 05:32:15 PM »
                      You need a new burner...
                      To confirm this without spending any cabbage borrow a known good one overnight.
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